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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby Dan » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:23 am

I think a lot of people are missing the point (as usual on here). Bish can handle the stick, it's the younger players (our future) who he was talking about. Sounds to me like he was being the experienced pro that he is & urging fans not to kill the youngsters careers before they've even started. Those of us old enough to remember players like Alister Asher who had a big future ahead of him until our 'fans' got hold of him will understand where Bish is coming from.
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:49 pm

Dan wrote:I think a lot of people are missing the point (as usual on here). Bish can handle the stick, it's the younger players (our future) who he was talking about. Sounds to me like he was being the experienced pro that he is & urging fans not to kill the youngsters careers before they've even started. Those of us old enough to remember players like Alister Asher who had a big future ahead of him until our 'fans' got hold of him will understand where Bish is coming from.



It may be my poor memory and please forgive me if I am wrong but I thought Alistair had a particularly bad leg break and that is what effectively finished him.
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby tillydog123 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:49 pm

The Bish thing is an indication of a very widespread frustration at the club currently from JR CR Hymas the Players and Board and downwards to the supporters...well the loyal well meaning ones!!

Things don't seem right and not sure what action is required to settle it all down but a change of manager might be a decent starting point if things don't improve next 3 to 4 weeks and can only see this as a way to re charge the batteries for Stags.

Teresa May had to go and Boris hate him or love him HAS re energised things somewhat.

Dempster is like many people in their mid thirties who are very set in their ways who just can't change how they are and how they operate.

We have handled slumps and frustrations before especially in the squalid mud pit of of the Conference but this is way way different.
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby The One » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:59 pm

tillydog123 wrote:The Bish thing is an indication of a very widespread frustration at the club currently from JR CR Hymas the Players and Board and downwards to the supporters...well the loyal well meaning ones!!

Things don't seem right and not sure what action is required to settle it all down but a change of manager might be a decent starting point if things don't improve next 3 to 4 weeks and can only see this as a way to re charge the batteries for Stags.

Teresa May had to go and Boris hate him or love him HAS re energised things somewhat.

Dempster is like many people in their mid thirties who are very set in their ways who just can't change how they are and how they operate.

We have handled slumps and frustrations before especially in the squalid mud pit of of the Conference but this is way way different.


Good post. This malaise started before a ball was kicked in anger.
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby Conker » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:48 pm

Something clearly needs to change.
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby Chrisuknottm » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:53 pm

Conker wrote:Something clearly needs to change.


Trouble is we've all seen that and have done for weeks but the only people who can make the change are sitting on their hands
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby yorkshire stag » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:56 pm

Chrisuknottm wrote:
Conker wrote:Something clearly needs to change.


Trouble is we've all seen that and have done for weeks but the only people who can make the change are sitting on their hands


with fingers in their ears sadly
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby yorkstag » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:40 pm

Chrisuknottm wrote:Seems there is now an undercurrent of them and us.

Only the Radfords can sort this out now because under this management structure its now seemingly siege mentality and is that what the owners want the club to become.

No you and people like you can sort it out
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby yorkstag » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:42 pm

Amberheart wrote:All this players v fans & booing will only benefit the opposition & give Spiresh*ites & County fans a laugh

Good post
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby yorkstag » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:56 pm

Dan wrote:I think a lot of people are missing the point (as usual on here). Bish can handle the stick, it's the younger players (our future) who he was talking about. Sounds to me like he was being the experienced pro that he is & urging fans not to kill the youngsters careers before they've even started. Those of us old enough to remember players like Alister Asher who had a big future ahead of him until our 'fans' got hold of him will understand where Bish is coming from.

Great post but Bish is right ... booing is not supporting. Some of the behaviour at the moment is shameful
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby stagsfan6493 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:23 am

Conker wrote:Something clearly needs to change.

The players and management need to stop crying about the fans and sort out the performances at home.

Saturday was unbearably bad, hopefully a more positive line up will help.
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby marker_mtfc95 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:50 am

It doesn’t help the players or management when you have a so called “fan” say this about the team, via twitter.

https://twitter.com/92_jackrich/status/ ... 90432?s=21
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby bobbystagsfan » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:11 am

marker_mtfc95 wrote:It doesn’t help the players or management when you have a so called “fan” say this about the team, via twitter.

https://twitter.com/92_jackrich/status/ ... 90432?s=21



'Paul it was tweeted as a joke, as if i would want us to lose a game of football. No I wasn’t there last night, I will be at Macclesfield on Saturday though.'
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby adamstag » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:21 am

Given that the fans are apparently to blame (rather the the dreadful tactics and form of players) I look forward to the next 3 games being away and us being unbeaten in all 3.
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby Kernow » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:27 am

Follow the lead from our away following.
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby Chander Lear » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:37 am

marker_mtfc95 wrote:It doesn’t help the players or management when you have a so called “fan” say this about the team, via twitter.

https://twitter.com/92_jackrich/status/ ... 90432?s=21


That Jack Richardson is a proper helmet ;)
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby ST4GS » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:56 am

adamstag wrote:Given that the fans are apparently to blame (rather the the dreadful tactics and form of players) I look forward to the next 3 games being away and us being unbeaten in all 3.

I think the team do too.
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby Foresttownstag » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:25 pm

Chander Lear wrote:
marker_mtfc95 wrote:It doesn’t help the players or management when you have a so called “fan” say this about the team, via twitter.

https://twitter.com/92_jackrich/status/ ... 90432?s=21


That Jack Richardson is a proper helmet ;)


Thanks mate :lol:

This was clearly a sarcastic tweet which Drewe has taken completely the wrong way.
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby Foresttownstag » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:27 pm

marker_mtfc95 wrote:It doesn’t help the players or management when you have a so called “fan” say this about the team, via twitter.

https://twitter.com/92_jackrich/status/ ... 90432?s=21


This was a sarcastic tweet, I’d never want the team to lose a match in whatever competition we play in.

Drewe has taken it totally out of context
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby BH_Stag » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:40 pm

Foresttownstag wrote:
marker_mtfc95 wrote:It doesn’t help the players or management when you have a so called “fan” say this about the team, via twitter.

https://twitter.com/92_jackrich/status/ ... 90432?s=21


This was a sarcastic tweet, I’d never want the team to lose a match in whatever competition we play in.

Drewe has taken it totally out of context


No surprise he’s taken the opportunity to jump on a fan that to me was clearly just joking about our poor form this season, considering his (Drewe’s) tweets since the Chorley game. How many people will have joked to their mates that we’ll probably still end up losing when talking about Macclesfields situation for the weekend? I’d imagine quite a lot! It’s like he’s been waiting for it.
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby Martin Shaw » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:01 pm

Foresttownstag wrote:
marker_mtfc95 wrote:It doesn’t help the players or management when you have a so called “fan” say this about the team, via twitter.

https://twitter.com/92_jackrich/status/ ... 90432?s=21


This was a sarcastic tweet, I’d never want the team to lose a match in whatever competition we play in.

Drewe has taken it totally out of context


I've no interest in taking sides in this. But, you've repeatedly called for Dempster to be sacked on twitter. So then when you put "Dempster OUT", with out in capital letters, you can't really say that Drewe Broughton has taken it totally out of context.

From reading your posts over time, there is no doubt that you don't want the side to lose in any circumstances. No disagreement over that. However there are others who have plainly stated that they wanted us to lose to hasten the departure of Dempster, (we've all seen the posts which leave a nasty taste in my mouth), so it's not a wild mistake for Drewe Broughton to misinterpret that bit of the tweet.

Anyway, probably best just to move on.
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby Foresttownstag » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:04 pm

Martin Shaw wrote:
Foresttownstag wrote:
marker_mtfc95 wrote:It doesn’t help the players or management when you have a so called “fan” say this about the team, via twitter.

https://twitter.com/92_jackrich/status/ ... 90432?s=21


This was a sarcastic tweet, I’d never want the team to lose a match in whatever competition we play in.

Drewe has taken it totally out of context


I've no interest in taking sides in this. But, you've repeatedly called for Dempster to be sacked on twitter. So then when you put "Dempster OUT", with out in capital letters, you can't really say that Drewe Broughton has taken it totally out of context.

From reading your posts over time, there is no doubt that you don't want the side to lose in any circumstances. No disagreement over that. However there are others who have plainly stated that they wanted us to lose to hasten the departure of Dempster, (we've all seen the posts which leave a nasty taste in my mouth), so it's not a wild mistake for Drewe Broughton to misinterpret that bit of the tweet.

Anyway, probably best just to move on.


Glad you aren’t tarnishing me with the “I want us to lose so JD is sacked”. I want him to succeed, he’s a nice guy and deserves a chance, it doesn’t mean I think he’s the right man for the job.

My post on Twitter was sarcastic, I should have added a wink face or something to ensure it came across like that as it’s been taken completely the wrong way by Drewe and a few others.

Apologies to those who have taken it seriously, to clear it up I will be at Macclesfield on Saturday cheering us on to hopefully 3 points.
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby Martin Shaw » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:06 pm

Foresttownstag wrote:Glad you aren’t tarnishing me with the “I want us to lose so JD is sacked”. I want him to succeed, he’s a nice guy and deserves a chance, it doesn’t mean I think he’s the right man for the job.


and that's absolutely fair enough.
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby Chadman » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:33 pm

Booing your team after a win? Is that support? It's certainly causing a stir - and rightly so.

https://www.chad.co.uk/sport/football/l ... 1-10101381
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Re: Bishop speaks out over fans’ abuse at home

Postby Chander Lear » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:43 pm

Chadman wrote:Booing your team after a win? Is that support? It's certainly causing a stir - and rightly so.

https://www.chad.co.uk/sport/football/l ... 1-10101381


So much of a stir you've posted the same article 3 times on facebook in 2 days
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