Bishop

[Norman]

He’s been great in his last 2 seasons for us . Unfortunately his legs are now going and he’s becoming a liability. The sad thing is there’s no one to replace him!

[Foresttownstag]

He’s not been the same. I think we’re asking a lot of him at 38 to do what he does, we are crying out for a CM.

[BH_Stag]

He’s been great in his last 2 seasons for us . Unfortunately his legs are now going and he’s becoming a liability. The sad thing is there’s no one to replace him!

Got to agree.

[Vinnie]

We absolutely flogged him to death last season, playing him in every game virtually. No matter how fit you are at 38, that's going to take it's toll.

[yorkshire stag]

sadly with a heavy heart agree too Stormin

[EdwinstoweStag]

Given the alternatives available, Neal Bishop is still worth his place.

[DogsDoDahs]

He’s been great in his last 2 seasons for us . Unfortunately his legs are now going and he’s becoming a liability. The sad thing is there’s no one to replace him!

Yes there is. In a 433 the midfield should be run by shaugnessey with Gordon and Dapo. In a 442 include Smith who at least passes the ball forward with some success. Bishop should be benched to come on and add steel in last 10 mins if needed. Scunthorpe knew he was no good for league one and benched him after xmas in his last season there. Hes had a decent run here for two seasons but the sooner its over the better hes done at end of season either way

[Rob]

So Bish is the new CJ. You lot are too pathetic for words.

[DogsDoDahs]

So Bish is the new CJ. You lot are too pathetic for words.

I like CJ hamilton in the side if he is played as an out an out left winger. Sadly that has never been the case ever under the last two managers. I am a supporter of JD who is learning his trade progressively. His team tonight were a little bit unlucky so far as if chances created were taken the result would be drastically different, so not fully his fault really. But bishop for me is not the new CJ as i have never said anything against him directly. Bishop is a liability in the side and if not taken out of it then more results like tonight will follow. We have better players and his inclusion is closely linked to his relationship with the radfords and always has been

[Beano]

So Bish is the new CJ. You lot are too pathetic for words.

You realise this is a discussion board Rob?

[Rob]

So Bish is the new CJ. You lot are too pathetic for words.

You realise this is a discussion board Rob?

Yep. I don't agree with slagging our own players off. Soz and all that but feel free to slag them off, it truly will help.

[bobbystagsfan]

He’s been great in his last 2 seasons for us . Unfortunately his legs are now going and he’s becoming a liability. The sad thing is there’s no one to replace him!

Yes there is. In a 433 the midfield should be run by shaugnessey with Gordon and Dapo. In a 442 include Smith who at least passes the ball forward with some success. Bishop should be benched to come on and add steel in last 10 mins if needed. Scunthorpe knew he was no good for league one and benched him after xmas in his last season there. Hes had a decent run here for two seasons but the sooner its over the better hes done at end of season either way

Let me get this straight, you want a striker and a right mid playing centre midfield?

Also, everyone thought Tomlinson was the new mini bish last season but hes just a liability and is the first player to get hauled off when we're losing

[Sneag]

Bish was very poir last night, but he's not the only one suffering a hangover from last season.

There is a point in every player's career when time catches up with them and he's already at the veteran stage.

Maybe he needs to be used differently instead of being 1st pick every week, use him as a sub to sure things up in a tight game. JD's options have restricted though by the actions of Mellis & Donoghue and the lack of form from Tomlinson.

[yorkshire stag]

The lack of quality in midfield it should not be a shock to anybody, the majority of fans have been screaming this since preseason, a huge glaring hole in the middle of the park why has this not been addressed?

[arsene wengers coat]

Get him in the dugout. Promote from within, that's what we do now.

[wink68]

Last season was a yard in front of the game. Tackling his opponent as they received the ball. This season a yard behind the game. The opposition receive the ball and have time to pass it or drop a shoulder and move before Bishop is there. Have his legs gone or is it the Dempster effect. Cos the whole team look yards behind last year.

[Conker]

So Bish is the new CJ. You lot are too pathetic for words.

You realise this is a discussion board Rob?

Yep. I don't agree with slagging our own players off. Soz and all that but feel free to slag them off, it truly will help.

Difference between slagging off and expressing a opinion mate, stop being so sensitive, it’s a Internet forum for Christ sake.

My opinion is he’s looked dreadful the last couple of games, constantly giving the ball away and struggling to keep up a bit too.

[Chrisuknottm]

I thought his reading of the game last season was his real skill and took him to places others didn't see but last night he always seemed to be doing things late and in catch up.....doing them well but reactive rather than proactive snd it must be taking it out of him.

[Sedgwick]

Similar to David Vaughan at County... he was an alright player but didn't have the legs and got ran past too easily.

JD should have addressed the midfield in the summer and didn't. From Jan onwards last year he wasn't that good and neither is Macca... Shaugnessy needs someone decent next to him, probably an inform Mellis.

Also annoying that Donohue has gone to swindon and been putting MOM performances in. They cant believe they managed to sign a centre mid with such quality for free.

[my name is jonas]

Similar to David Vaughan at County... he was an alright player but didn't have the legs and got ran past too easily.

JD should have addressed the midfield in the summer and didn't. From Jan onwards last year he wasn't that good and neither is Macca... Shaugnessy needs someone decent next to him, probably an inform Mellis.

Also annoying that Donohue has gone to swindon and been putting MOM performances in. They cant believe they managed to sign a centre mid with such quality for free.

We shouldn’t have got rid of Donahue. Was inevitable he’d join someone in our league and be decent. Might as well have stuck by him and let the courts decide his punishment.

[oldweststander]

Yes, some of Bishop's s passes were very poor last night but you cannot fault his break up play.

He is at it for 90 mins, oh how I wish Tomlinson had that energy at his tender age.

Bishop needs to play in front of a back four disrupting the opposition, not pushing forward and leaving a hole that other players don't cover.

I will not knock Bishop, all I will say is we expect far too much of him whilst other players coast, Khan being but one.

[lifestags]

How bad was he on the ball last night?!

[Random Hero]

By far and away his worst performance in a Stags shirt last night. He was simply woeful - two yards behind play, couldn't pick a pass, gave the ball away more times than anyone else on the pitch, missed two good chances, and is a walking yellow card.

I love the bloke, but signs aren't good.

[Beano]

So Bish is the new CJ. You lot are too pathetic for words.

You realise this is a discussion board Rob?

Yep. I don't agree with slagging our own players off. Soz and all that but feel free to slag them off, it truly will help.

Commenting that someone has a good/bad game is one of the main points of a football discussion forum.

Bish has had some really positive comments (rightly so) since he arrived, but the fact that he is in the latter stage of his career is bound to be a factor.

He’s still one hell of a player at this level and could perhaps do with some of those around him pulling their weight.

[BH_Stag]

Yes, some of Bishop's s passes were very poor last night but you cannot fault his break up play.

He is at it for 90 mins, oh how I wish Tomlinson had that energy at his tender age.

Bishop needs to play in front of a back four disrupting the opposition, not pushing forward and leaving a hole that other players don't cover.

I will not knock Bishop, all I will say is we expect far too much of him whilst other players coast, Khan being but one.

How can you say Khan coasted last night? He was at the heart of most good things we did yesterday going forward, particularly first half and I thought he was one of our better performers last night behind Shaugnessy. Khans role is to find pockets and try and create, not make lung busting runs back towards his own goal.

Nobody is saying there’s a lack of effort with Bishop as that is not the case, but there has been a lack of quality in recent games. I think it’s asking too much of him now to be playing 2 games in 4 days.