stag324 wrote:nick_stags wrote:stag324 wrote:We just don’t have the desire to win a game.
Is that the players or the manager?
Unfortunately I think we are stuck with both till the end of the season, at keast
Ridiculous. Nothing to do with desire.
We had desire for about 10 mins in that game.
How can you say we had desire?
We have just lost to a poor Salford team.
Tawnystag wrote:Great performance tonight, everyone worked hard to get a result. Salford had 4 chances and took 2 of them - that was the difference. Thought the change was good and Dapo was quality when he came on.
Play like that every week and we will be up there.
Tawnystag wrote:Great performance tonight, everyone worked hard to get a result. Salford had 4 chances and took 2 of them - that was the difference. Thought the change was good and Dapo was quality when he came on.
Play like that every week and we will be up there.
Woodclanger 1 wrote:Tawnystag wrote:Great performance tonight, everyone worked hard to get a result. Salford had 4 chances and took 2 of them - that was the difference. Thought the change was good and Dapo was quality when he came on.
Play like that every week and we will be up there.
Flipping eck mate, how long you gonna say that for?
adamstag wrote:yorkshire stag wrote:The One wrote:yorkshire stag wrote:Shaughnessy Different class tonight, apart from him we got exactly what we deserved rubbish Dempster rubbish
He is OUT OF HIS DEPTH
sick of saying it Dave
jobs to big for him, how many bloody more John Radford ?
There’s got to be a point when enough is enough. But I don’t think he will.
Think we’ve got him for the season.
BH_Stag wrote:Tonight.... firstly, I will say that we didn’t deserve to lose that game, we were the better side, but it counts for absolutely nothing. As mentioned on another thread, we lost to a side that looked every bit a conference team.
I’ve honestly never known a team bottle it like us when it comes to shooting. We have a real issue with actually just striking it properly and making a good connection, it’s unbelievable how many times we make a real hash of chances because of this. Our record of goals scored from outside the box must be one of the worst in the entire EFL.
15 game assessment...dreadful.
- 18th in the league
- 11 points off the top 3
- 7pts off the playoffs (and 9/10 from the main play off pack)
- 2 wins in ELEVEN home games in all comps!!! Teams that go up very rarely have a record like this, if ever.
A third of the season has now gone and genuinely, what percentage of chance can you put on us salvaging something from this season realistically? Maybe 10, 15%? Incredible we’re in such a poor position after such a short amount of time. The manager isn’t up to it but it’s pointless calling for change, it won’t come until the seasons essentially finished.
arsene wengers coat wrote:BH_Stag wrote:Tonight.... firstly, I will say that we didn’t deserve to lose that game, we were the better side, but it counts for absolutely nothing. As mentioned on another thread, we lost to a side that looked every bit a conference team.
I’ve honestly never known a team bottle it like us when it comes to shooting. We have a real issue with actually just striking it properly and making a good connection, it’s unbelievable how many times we make a real hash of chances because of this. Our record of goals scored from outside the box must be one of the worst in the entire EFL.
15 game assessment...dreadful.
- 18th in the league
- 11 points off the top 3
- 7pts off the playoffs (and 9/10 from the main play off pack)
- 2 wins in ELEVEN home games in all comps!!! Teams that go up very rarely have a record like this, if ever.
A third of the season has now gone and genuinely, what percentage of chance can you put on us salvaging something from this season realistically? Maybe 10, 15%? Incredible we’re in such a poor position after such a short amount of time. The manager isn’t up to it but it’s pointless calling for change, it won’t come until the seasons essentially finished.
Just a case of getting to 50 points soon as and hoping at the end of the season there is at least 2 teams below us.
Then we can shrug it off and start again.
EdwinstoweStag wrote:Salford were a (well organised) bang average side but they always seemed to win second balls in a way that we didn’t. We left their No 32 and No 9 with acres of space when they were moving forward. Somehow they scored 2 goals from their only 3 or maybe 4 shots in target.
Our forward movement was ponderous throughout the game but we had more than enough chances to have scored at least 3 or 4 goals. I struggled to find a MOM, but Shaughnessy was probably the only credible candidate.
MTFCMusings wrote:Great goal by Maynard. Shaughnessy been good again.
NG17_stag wrote:adamstag wrote:yorkshire stag wrote:The One wrote:yorkshire stag wrote:Shaughnessy Different class tonight, apart from him we got exactly what we deserved rubbish Dempster rubbish
He is OUT OF HIS DEPTH
sick of saying it Dave
jobs to big for him, how many bloody more John Radford ?
There’s got to be a point when enough is enough. But I don’t think he will.
Think we’ve got him for the season.
I think we’re at a point now where only 3 people in the whole of Mansfield want to stick with Dempster, and unfortunately those 3 people are Hymas, Carolyn and John.
Amber Andy wrote:Carolyn wanted to keep Flitcroft. She was right.
Rob wrote:Amber Andy wrote:Carolyn wanted to keep Flitcroft. She was right.
Of course she was right about DF. I am prepared to give JD the right amount of time (which 3 months isn't) but it was a stupid decision to sack Flitcroft. I am sure privately the Flitcroft Out brigade on here are regretting their stupid short termism - though I doubt in true Johnson style, they will never admit to being wrong, which of course, they were. Our best season in 15 years, fact, and we sack him. Just utter, utter stupidity. So here we sit, as I predicteded in the summer, uncompetitive because we changed manager, changed someone who brought us decent football and a promotion challenge the entire season.
No doubt the DF brigade will argue that it was right to sack DF but wrong to appoint JD, good for you, for JD you could substitute any initial, the new man would still have needed time. If we become a sacking club, if JR listens to the mentalists, then I fear for us and fear a return to Barrow away.
Rob wrote:Amber Andy wrote:Carolyn wanted to keep Flitcroft. She was right.
Beano wrote:You can scream the same anti fan nonsense as much as you like, but the fact is, the fans didn’t sack DF
Neither did they employ JD
Make a few more spelling/grammatical errors and Lomas will start to worry about his job
Rob wrote:Beano wrote:You can scream the same anti fan nonsense as much as you like, but the fact is, the fans didn’t sack DF
Neither did they employ JD
Make a few more spelling/grammatical errors and Lomas will start to worry about his job
Well that added to the debate didn't it I am not sure how I am anti fan, I am anti-stupid fan, most fans did not want DF sacked, there were no protests, no DF out chants but the voices of idiots clearly had some sort of influence on JR. Dead easy to criticise those with a view Beano, so how about your view, were we right to sack DF? Should we now sack JD? Should we change manager every few months unless we achieve instant success? Did the changing manager policy work well for Notts Co and Chesterfield?
I think our owner has done an unbelievable job at MTFC and have supported him at every corner, but he was wrong to sack DF. I will repeat again, DF took us to our highest league position in 15 years - in 15 years, I say again, in 15 years. Yes, 15 years, how many years, FIFTEEN.
DogsDoDahs wrote:Rob wrote:Beano wrote:You can scream the same anti fan nonsense as much as you like, but the fact is, the fans didn’t sack DF
Neither did they employ JD
Make a few more spelling/grammatical errors and Lomas will start to worry about his job
Well that added to the debate didn't it I am not sure how I am anti fan, I am anti-stupid fan, most fans did not want DF sacked, there were no protests, no DF out chants but the voices of idiots clearly had some sort of influence on JR. Dead easy to criticise those with a view Beano, so how about your view, were we right to sack DF? Should we now sack JD? Should we change manager every few months unless we achieve instant success? Did the changing manager policy work well for Notts Co and Chesterfield?
I think our owner has done an unbelievable job at MTFC and have supported him at every corner, but he was wrong to sack DF. I will repeat again, DF took us to our highest league position in 15 years - in 15 years, I say again, in 15 years. Yes, 15 years, how many years, FIFTEEN.
Pity he didnt manage FIFTEEN points from his last 8 games in charge against bang average opponents then isnt it but regularly playing one striker up front isolated was not his team selection was it, it must have forced on him by mistic meg
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