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Well done JD

Postby PEAR CIDER » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:13 pm

For what was a great point away against a tough side

Folk about commiting suicide at 2 down today.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Chrisuknottm » Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:46 am

Chander Lear wrote:For what was a great point away against a tough side

Folk about commiting suicide at 2 down today.


What about him committing suicide with his first hour tactics after what he achieved against Oldham. Maybe if he'd stuck to how he set the team up then we could have been two up ourselves.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Spiritater » Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:52 am

quite agrree he changed things around and we could've won it save a great stop from their custodian. Conrad has to take some blame for Cooky not getting a hat trick though. ;)
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Spiritater » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:02 am

Chrisuknottm wrote:
Chander Lear wrote:For what was a great point away against a tough side

Folk about commiting suicide at 2 down today.


What about him committing suicide with his first hour tactics after what he achieved against Oldham. Maybe if he'd stuck to how he set the team up then we could have been two up ourselves.

Two players out from the side that played Oldham, away against a top side. ok it didnt work first half but we got better after tommo n mr no end product were hooked.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby gazza1988 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:53 am

Spiritater wrote:
Chrisuknottm wrote:
Chander Lear wrote:For what was a great point away against a tough side

Folk about commiting suicide at 2 down today.


What about him committing suicide with his first hour tactics after what he achieved against Oldham. Maybe if he'd stuck to how he set the team up then we could have been two up ourselves.

Two players out from the side that played Oldham, away against a top side. ok it didnt work first half but we got better after tommo n mr no end product were hooked.


The thing is, both tomlinson and Hamilton have done very little so far this season. There has been nothing in recent weeks to suggest they deserve a start. That team that started the 2nd half is what should have started the game. Hamilton started because he's next in the pecking order for right wingers. Would have liked to have seen Gordon on right wing and Clarke at right back or even white, when available.

White and Gordon down the right, Benning and Khan down the left. Maynard and Cook in the middle. Should produce some good football and goals.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Spiritater » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:13 am

but cook's pulled up no trees before fgr 2nd half. hindsight eh
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Stoney » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:16 am

Chander Lear wrote:For what was a great point away against a tough side

Folk about commiting suicide at 2 down today.

Oh my god. Common sense at last.

Yesterday was a great result, win at home against Salford and we will be flying form wise with 10 points from 12.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Chrisuknottm » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:20 am

Spiritater wrote:but cook's pulled up no trees before fgr 2nd half. hindsight eh


Because JDs only played him (when available) in ten minutes to go substitute roles. Cook isn't that type of player. He needs to feel and get into the rhythm of being a target man against big defenders...letting them know he's there which is something CJ hasn't the style or heart to do...others will play off Cooky and get into the space he creates and the knock downs he makes just by being the aggressive antagonistic centre forward he is....
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Sedgwick » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:40 am

Chrisuknottm wrote:
Chander Lear wrote:For what was a great point away against a tough side

Folk about commiting suicide at 2 down today.


What about him committing suicide with his first hour tactics after what he achieved against Oldham. Maybe if he'd stuck to how he set the team up then we could have been two up ourselves.


If you think setting up the same as we did against an awful Oldham side against a side that plays football away from home then that would of meant we would of easily won then oh dear how stupid.

Injuries meant he had no choice but the change it and against a side that plays football we set up well, just for 45 we had 9 men on the pitch. Once CJ and Tomlinson bwere gone we was much better. Great away point that. Roll on Tuesday.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:46 am

Sedgwick wrote:
Chrisuknottm wrote:
Chander Lear wrote:For what was a great point away against a tough side

Folk about commiting suicide at 2 down today.


What about him committing suicide with his first hour tactics after what he achieved against Oldham. Maybe if he'd stuck to how he set the team up then we could have been two up ourselves.


If you think setting up the same as we did against an awful Oldham side against a side that plays football away from home then that would of meant we would of easily won then oh dear how stupid.

Injuries meant he had no choice but the change it and against a side that plays football we set up well, just for 45 we had 9 men on the pitch. Once CJ and Tomlinson bwere gone we was much better. Great away point that. Roll on Tuesday.


Are you double Dutch? We set up well with Tommo and CJ in there but we were better when they went off and went 4-4-2, talk about contradicting yourself :roll:
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Hon Sec » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:00 am

Woodclanger 1 wrote:
Sedgwick wrote:
Chrisuknottm wrote:
Chander Lear wrote:For what was a great point away against a tough side

Folk about commiting suicide at 2 down today.


What about him committing suicide with his first hour tactics after what he achieved against Oldham. Maybe if he'd stuck to how he set the team up then we could have been two up ourselves.


If you think setting up the same as we did against an awful Oldham side against a side that plays football away from home then that would of meant we would of easily won then oh dear how stupid.

Injuries meant he had no choice but the change it and against a side that plays football we set up well, just for 45 we had 9 men on the pitch. Once CJ and Tomlinson bwere gone we was much better. Great away point that. Roll on Tuesday.


Are you double Dutch? We set up well with Tommo and CJ in there but we were better when they went off and went 4-4-2, talk about contradicting yourself :roll:

Don’t think he’s talking double Dutch just that two players weren’t up to the role they were trying to play. Better when they were substituted.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Chrisuknottm » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:22 am

And what we are saying is exactly why would he pick Tomlinson and especially CJ after their sub standard performances so far this season and think they would do a job for him? It's that repeated flawed judgement and reverting to type and favourites that drives us doubters crazy and loses the goodwill he rightly earned last week.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby cassellswasmagic » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:26 am

What we all need to appreciate is the players are obviously playing for our manager and our manager is learning, albeit slowly. The turnaround in the second half and the last few games give us at least some optimism for the last two thirds of the season. The league this year has no standout team imo. We can still do this.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby yorkshire stag » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:44 am

I just wish the manager would set up and play to our strengths, we have potentially the best strikeforce in the league, feed the goat and he will score
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Re: Well done JD

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:52 am

Not for the first time, CJ was little boy lost.

I feel for the lad, but to include him in the starting 11 makes little sense. Yesterday, it was like fielding 10 players against a confident, well-organised FGR.

JD is having no luck with suspensions, injuries and unfit players, but we’ve seen enough in the last three games to suggest we are better than our league position would suggest.

I, too, would like to see Cook start, but he doesn’t seem anything like match-fit IMO.

Sweeney’s available on Tuesday and this could facilitate a more adventurous Shaughnessy.

I fancy us to beat the Class of ‘92 on Tuesday. A big following, then, for the Walsall clash where I’m confident Cook will bag goals against his old club.

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Re: Well done JD

Postby MTFCMusings » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:53 am

Please with the end result but it's hard to argue we deserved a point based on the reports I've seen, and from those who were there. So, it's great character from the lads and another great slice of luck, but it doesn't change the fact the overall performance was below par for the umpteenth time this season.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:34 am

Hon Sec wrote:
Woodclanger 1 wrote:
Sedgwick wrote:
Chrisuknottm wrote:
Chander Lear wrote:For what was a great point away against a tough side

Folk about commiting suicide at 2 down today.


What about him committing suicide with his first hour tactics after what he achieved against Oldham. Maybe if he'd stuck to how he set the team up then we could have been two up ourselves.


If you think setting up the same as we did against an awful Oldham side against a side that plays football away from home then that would of meant we would of easily won then oh dear how stupid.

Injuries meant he had no choice but the change it and against a side that plays football we set up well, just for 45 we had 9 men on the pitch. Once CJ and Tomlinson bwere gone we was much better. Great away point that. Roll on Tuesday.


Are you double Dutch? We set up well with Tommo and CJ in there but we were better when they went off and went 4-4-2, talk about contradicting yourself :roll:

Don’t think he’s talking double Dutch just that two players weren’t up to the role they were trying to play. Better when they were substituted.


Exactly, both are so out of form and offer nothing, one even out of position, there was no "set up well" it was naive management again to put it politely
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Re: Well done JD

Postby HitchcocksShins » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:42 am

Fun stat: JD and the boys have already achieved a better points return in October (7 from a possible 9) than DF and SE achieved in the 2 previous seasons, but with 6 points left to play for.

(DF with 3 points from a possible 15)
(SE with 6 from 15)
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Chrisuknottm » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:45 am

And how is Cook supposed to get match fit if he doesn't play matches?

It's an ideal scenario with Danny injured to play Cook and Maynard together which is what some of us have been saying for a few weeks now.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Jamie » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:49 am

He got what he went for. Going for a draw clearly didn't work though. It sounds like we were battered and lucky not to be more than 2 down. Great we turned it round but all it showed was his tactics and approach to the game clearly didn't work.

It's a good point overall. Good to keep the confidence up with a 2 goal come back but this does not really do JD any favours. Jury still out and very much split I would say.

The results have turned a corner but the bigger question remains unanswered.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Chrisuknottm » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:56 am

Jamie wrote:He got what he went for. Going for a draw clearly didn't work though. It sounds like we were battered and lucky not to be more than 2 down. Great we turned it round but all it showed was his tactics and approach to the game clearly didn't work.

It's a good point overall. Good to keep the confidence up with a 2 goal come back but this does not really do JD any favours. Jury still out and very much split I would say.

The results have turned a corner but the bigger question remains unanswered.


Good post Jamie
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Sedgwick » Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:26 pm

Jamie wrote:He got what he went for. Going for a draw clearly didn't work though. It sounds like we were battered and lucky not to be more than 2 down. Great we turned it round but all it showed was his tactics and approach to the game clearly didn't work.

It's a good point overall. Good to keep the confidence up with a 2 goal come back but this does not really do JD any favours. Jury still out and very much split I would say.

The results have turned a corner but the bigger question remains unanswered.


Going for a draw didn't work did it? What was the result again... It's a 90 minute game not just the first half hour.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby MTFCMusings » Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:30 pm

Sedgwick wrote:
Jamie wrote:He got what he went for. Going for a draw clearly didn't work though. It sounds like we were battered and lucky not to be more than 2 down. Great we turned it round but all it showed was his tactics and approach to the game clearly didn't work.

It's a good point overall. Good to keep the confidence up with a 2 goal come back but this does not really do JD any favours. Jury still out and very much split I would say.

The results have turned a corner but the bigger question remains unanswered.


Going for a draw didn't work did it? What was the result again... It's a 90 minute game not just the first half hour.


If a manager goes somewhere for a draw, he's not going there for a 2-2 draw is he? You know the point Jamie is making.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby NorthLondonStag » Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:47 pm

I think you had to be there or watching to realise how fortunate we were. On paper it’s two goals each but we did not get a draw because the set up was right for it from the off.
The first half was not good. We got a draw because it was changed at half time and frankly we got very lucky as well. They had twenty one shots to our 6 but we scored two each. Logan also played very well.
It was great to get a point though. If we start the next game with the mindset and formation of 60 mins onwards then we will do alright.
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Re: Well done JD

Postby Old amber » Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:24 pm

Well I went to the game... ok we were poor first half... but if JD’s change at half time bringing Cook on.counts as his
Plan B.. then it got us a good point..just remember were was DF’s plan B?
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