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Re: Creepy v stags ,scorefred ,sponsored by spanish cerveza

Postby gavinbrookes » Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:57 pm

BigGuy wrote:I don’t know why you are surprised when you say he plays not to lose, I came on here and repeated what JD said at a forum pre season, that “I will be happy with a point away, and win our home games.”

He has just said in his post match interview that had we “got a point today, and then only get a point Tuesday, it does not look good, but if we win Tuesday we will be better off even with today’s loss”, so in essence backing up the theory.

Join the dots, play to draw away and win at home, simples.... just aint working out that way.


On paper, winning at home and drawing away is a decent return (2 points per game) and would ensure automatic promotion. As you say, it isn't working out like that though.

Another issue I have with that is that I think it is hard to breed a winning mentality when you also go looking for draws in half of our games. Even if this is successful, and we get points away, it stifles any chance of putting a run of wins together and also places immense pressure on the home games which become must-wins.
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Re: Creepy v stags ,scorefred ,sponsored by spanish cerveza

Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:01 pm

Cleveland_Stag wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:Again there’s a lot of melodrama on here but this was one of those games we
Could have one or lost and we probably should have drawn.

Positives were that Logan was great. He saved everything (including the penalty) and had no chance for the deflected goal.

We played the ball around nicely at times and had at least three or four opportunities that could have gone in.

Negatives were that Danny didn’t win many headers and the jury has to be out on Maynard.

Shaughnessy looked ordinary today to me. CJ was lively but for me he either needs to get past the defender down the wing or cut inside. He too easily gets pushed out long and wide and then he struggles to pull back the cross and we lose momentum.

This performance was by no means bad though.


The jury shouldn’t be out on Maynard. In fact, I don’t know how anyone can judge him yet seen as though we don’t play to his strengths at all. Maynard’s got a fantastic first touch and links up play well. So do we ever get the ball into his feet? Do we heck. He’s just playing off the scraps from the occasional Rose flick on. Never ever going to get the best out of him with the way that we play under Dempster.


The jury shouldn’t be out on Maynard but we shouldn’t judge him yet?! That’s precisely what the phrase means!
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Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:06 pm

It’s very hard to post on here and have a reasonable debate when people take a turn of phrase which basically means ‘I’m not sure whether Maynard will turn out to be a good signing or not’ and turn it into a confrontational debate by trying to turn it into something I have not said.
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Re: Creepy v stags ,scorefred ,sponsored by spanish cerveza

Postby arsene wengers coat » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:07 pm

NorthLondonStag wrote:Again there’s a lot of melodrama on here but this was one of those games we
Could have one or lost and we probably should have drawn.

Positives were that Logan was great. He saved everything (including the penalty) and had no chance for the deflected goal.

We played the ball around nicely at times and had at least three or four opportunities that could have gone in.

Negatives were that Danny didn’t win many headers and the jury has to be out on Maynard.

Shaughnessy looked ordinary today to me. CJ was lively but for me he either needs to get past the defender down the wing or cut inside. He too easily gets pushed out long and wide and then he struggles to pull back the cross and we lose momentum.

This performance was by no means bad though.


Coulda woulda shoulda. We didn't.

Sit down and behave.
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Re: Creepy v stags ,scorefred ,sponsored by spanish cerveza

Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:08 pm

arsene wengers coat wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:Again there’s a lot of melodrama on here but this was one of those games we
Could have one or lost and we probably should have drawn.

Positives were that Logan was great. He saved everything (including the penalty) and had no chance for the deflected goal.

We played the ball around nicely at times and had at least three or four opportunities that could have gone in.

Negatives were that Danny didn’t win many headers and the jury has to be out on Maynard.

Shaughnessy looked ordinary today to me. CJ was lively but for me he either needs to get past the defender down the wing or cut inside. He too easily gets pushed out long and wide and then he struggles to pull back the cross and we lose momentum.

This performance was by no means bad though.


Coulda woulda shoulda. We didn't.

Sit down and behave.


Why is it necessary to be rude? Was I rude to you or to anyone else or was I just offering a view on the game and what I thought of the players?
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Re: Creepy v stags ,scorefred ,sponsored by spanish cerveza

Postby arsene wengers coat » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:10 pm

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Sedgwick wrote:phil parkinson and steve parkin please


Darrell Clarke please.


Doing wonders with Walsall ain't he


Might get him on the cheap then.
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Postby bluenyellow » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:22 pm

I’m not sacking anyone!!! What a ridiculous idea... I believe in longevity not switching it up always.
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Re: Creepy v stags ,scorefred ,sponsored by spanish cerveza

Postby adamstag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:23 pm

We’ve a good chance of a new division next season!

Get those derbies back with chesterfield and county as it stands.
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Postby Chrisuknottm » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:24 pm

adamstag wrote:We’ve a good chance of a new division next season!

Get those derbies back with chesterfield and county as it stands.


Been saying from the start that was my fear from the moment he was appointed
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Postby Billy the fish » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:34 pm

bluenyellow wrote:I’m not sacking anyone!!! What a ridiculous idea... I believe in longevity not switching it up always.
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The decision his theirs but the fans are starting to turn on JD already , the feel good factor of the last few seasons is diminishing fast .
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Postby spanishstag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:43 pm

Im a bit fed up but ,i dont think sacking him is going to end our problems totally peed off tonight it was dire
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Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:55 pm

Assuming you were watching this at the hacienda, Spanish Stag, but I thought we aren’t too bad, and not dire. The teams were well matched and we were unfortunate not to score. Not great, but not dire.
As a game of football it was certainly much more entertaining than Exeter.
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Postby spanishstag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:10 pm

NorthLondonStag wrote:Assuming you were watching this at the hacienda, Spanish Stag, but I thought we aren’t too bad, and not dire. The teams were well matched and we were unfortunate not to score. Not great, but not dire.
As a game of football it was certainly much more entertaining than Exeter.

It was dire ,every time we had the ball in our half we just hoofed it ,never once did conrad pass the ball out ,it was just lumped up the pitch our midfield if we even had one was reduced to chasing the long ball down ,our attack may as well have just waited for the very rare chance of a clean strike on goal danny rose s chance or the most wasted chance when maynard was free ,being the obvious exceptions ,
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Postby Philip » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:17 pm

I think some are being a tad unfair here.

I read that Crawley have the best goals on counter attacks stas in the division. We were set up to nullify that threat and for the most part did that. Credit the manager.

Having set up in that way we were never going to create too much
One golden opportunity taken would have sufficed - shame about that.

CJ was the only real danger and despite his every move being scrutinised seemed to offer pace and guile, that only Maynard matched occasionally.

The team looked like one that is, like the fans, wondering what is missing. No lack of effort, some moments of quality, but overall missing something from the jigsaw.
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Postby spanishstag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:21 pm

PHILIP wrote:I think some are being a tad unfair here.

I read that Crawley have the best goals on counter attacks stas in the division. We were set up to nullify that threat and for the most part did that. Credit the manager.

Having set up in that way we were never going to create too much
One golden opportunity taken would have sufficed - shame about that.

CJ was the only real danger and despite his every move being scrutinised seemed to offer pace and guile, that only Maynard matched occasionally.

The team looked like one that is, like the fans, wondering what is missing. No lack of effort, some moments of quality, but overall missing something from the jigsaw.

I really hope your right ,but its getting harder to have the belief
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Postby gazza1988 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:22 pm

spanishstag wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:Assuming you were watching this at the hacienda, Spanish Stag, but I thought we aren’t too bad, and not dire. The teams were well matched and we were unfortunate not to score. Not great, but not dire.
As a game of football it was certainly much more entertaining than Exeter.

It was dire ,every time we had the ball in our half we just hoofed it ,never once did conrad pass the ball out ,it was just lumped up the pitch our midfield if we even had one was reduced to chasing the long ball down ,our attack may as well have just waited for the very rare chance of a clean strike on goal danny rose s chance or the most wasted chance when maynard was free ,being the obvious exceptions ,


We did go long quite a few times but to suggest Conrad never passed it is far off the mark. With your comments tonight I'm beginning to wonder if you tuned into the correct game.
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Postby arsene wengers coat » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:32 pm

NorthLondonStag wrote:
arsene wengers coat wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:Again there’s a lot of melodrama on here but this was one of those games we
Could have one or lost and we probably should have drawn.

Positives were that Logan was great. He saved everything (including the penalty) and had no chance for the deflected goal.

We played the ball around nicely at times and had at least three or four opportunities that could have gone in.

Negatives were that Danny didn’t win many headers and the jury has to be out on Maynard.

Shaughnessy looked ordinary today to me. CJ was lively but for me he either needs to get past the defender down the wing or cut inside. He too easily gets pushed out long and wide and then he struggles to pull back the cross and we lose momentum.

This performance was by no means bad though.


Coulda woulda shoulda. We didn't.

Sit down and behave.


Why is it necessary to be rude? Was I rude to you or to anyone else or was I just offering a view on the game and what I thought of the players?


It was light hearted banter, sorry.
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Postby bigalstag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:33 pm

Some on here will still be making excuse, for this manager, as we drop into the conference. Get him gone now, and get somebody in that wants to play proper passing football, not kick and rush like this manager.
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Re: Creepy v stags ,scorefred ,sponsored by spanish cerveza

Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:34 pm

spanishstag wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:Assuming you were watching this at the hacienda, Spanish Stag, but I thought we aren’t too bad, and not dire. The teams were well matched and we were unfortunate not to score. Not great, but not dire.
As a game of football it was certainly much more entertaining than Exeter.

It was dire ,every time we had the ball in our half we just hoofed it ,never once did conrad pass the ball out ,it was just lumped up the pitch our midfield if we even had one was reduced to chasing the long ball down ,our attack may as well have just waited for the very rare chance of a clean strike on goal danny rose s chance or the most wasted chance when maynard was free ,being the obvious exceptions ,


I’ve seen dire from the Stags, Spanish. I was there and watched the game and that wasn’t dire.

If you want dire there’s many examples of that over the years from the Stags.
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Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:39 pm

arsene wengers coat wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:
arsene wengers coat wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:Again there’s a lot of melodrama on here but this was one of those games we
Could have one or lost and we probably should have drawn.

Positives were that Logan was great. He saved everything (including the penalty) and had no chance for the deflected goal.

We played the ball around nicely at times and had at least three or four opportunities that could have gone in.

Negatives were that Danny didn’t win many headers and the jury has to be out on Maynard.

Shaughnessy looked ordinary today to me. CJ was lively but for me he either needs to get past the defender down the wing or cut inside. He too easily gets pushed out long and wide and then he struggles to pull back the cross and we lose momentum.

This performance was by no means bad though.


Coulda woulda shoulda. We didn't.

Sit down and behave.


Why is it necessary to be rude? Was I rude to you or to anyone else or was I just offering a view on the game and what I thought of the players?


It was light hearted banter, sorry.


No worries. Sometimes it would be good to have a debate about the football, rather than its terrible/it’s great.

For instance what did people think of Shaughnessy today. I thought he didn’t play at all well compared to the Scunthorpe game.

Maybe we can have threads where we just discuss football (what I’m interested in) rather than who is going to be/should be sacked.
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Postby spanishstag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:40 pm

gazza1988 wrote:
spanishstag wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:Assuming you were watching this at the hacienda, Spanish Stag, but I thought we aren’t too bad, and not dire. The teams were well matched and we were unfortunate not to score. Not great, but not dire.
As a game of football it was certainly much more entertaining than Exeter.

It was dire ,every time we had the ball in our half we just hoofed it ,never once did conrad pass the ball out ,it was just lumped up the pitch our midfield if we even had one was reduced to chasing the long ball down ,our attack may as well have just waited for the very rare chance of a clean strike on goal danny rose s chance or the most wasted chance when maynard was free ,being the obvious exceptions ,


We did go long quite a few times but to suggest Conrad never passed it is far off the mark. With your comments tonight I'm beginning to wonder if you tuned into the correct game.

Believe me i did ,as for going long a few times ,it was every time from the back ,i cant recall one instance of trying to start a move from conrad to a defender and trying to build an attack
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Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:45 pm

Sorry Spanish. That’s not right. There was plenty of build up where the team got down the wings. Several cross field passes ended up with CJ or Gordon down the line. The Rose chance came from a ball through to Maynard which he passed through to Rose (from memory, I haven’t seen the replay yet).
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Postby spanishstag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:49 pm

NorthLondonStag wrote:Sorry Spanish. That’s not right. There was plenty of build up where the team got down the wings. Several cross field passes ended up with CJ or Gordon down the line. The Rose chance came from a ball through to Maynard which he passed through to Rose (from memory, I haven’t seen the replay yet).


Yes i know that ,but where was the build up from the back ,those chances you mention did not come about ,because we tried to build slowly from the back ,they came from crawleys inability or even ours to build a decent attacking move
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Postby NG17_stag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:49 pm

PHILIP wrote:I think some are being a tad unfair here.

I read that Crawley have the best goals on counter attacks stas in the division. We were set up to nullify that threat and for the most part did that. Credit the manager.

Having set up in that way we were never going to create too much
One golden opportunity taken would have sufficed - shame about that.

CJ was the only real danger and despite his every move being scrutinised seemed to offer pace and guile, that only Maynard matched occasionally.

The team looked like one that is, like the fans, wondering what is missing. No lack of effort, some moments of quality, but overall missing something from the jigsaw.



Crawley away was always going to be tough but I have no sympathy for Demps dropping points today as it’s his own fault we were in a position in which we were desperate for a win. Now 9 behind automatics and not only do we need to go on a very good run, we also need those in the top 3 to have a nightmare run like we’ve had. I’ve had enough now, he needs to go. Dread what the atmosphere will be like if we fail to beat Cambridge Tuesday.
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Re: Creepy v stags ,scorefred ,sponsored by spanish cerveza

Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:58 pm

spanishstag wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:Sorry Spanish. That’s not right. There was plenty of build up where the team got down the wings. Several cross field passes ended up with CJ or Gordon down the line. The Rose chance came from a ball through to Maynard which he passed through to Rose (from memory, I haven’t seen the replay yet).


Yes i know that ,but where was the build up from the back ,those chances you mention did not come about ,because we tried to build slowly from the back ,they came from crawleys inability or even ours to build a decent attacking move


If you think we are long ball have a look at the highlights right now on I follow. The vast majority our chances come from through balls or on the ground passing.

And see how many chances we had compared to Crawley’s deflected goal.

We played alright and made at least 4 or 5 chances.

I came away from Exeter depressed as we made so few chances and thinking it was a boring game.

I came away from here thinking we were really unlucky to get a point and not more.


Before commenting please have a look at the highlights and some of the lead up to the chances instead of just looking at the score.
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