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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:07 pm

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Cleveland_Stag wrote:This just shows how incompetent Dempster is. It was plain as day that our midfield wasn’t good enough st the back end of last season when it all went wrong. He’s had all summer to fix it and yet he’s not done that. He brought in a midfielder in Donohue yet hasn’t replaced him after what went off with him.

Completely ridiculous. How he can watch the likes of Macdonald and Tomlinson this season and not think that they need replacing is ludicrous.

With all the money we’ve spent on this squad over the past couple of years, to think we STILL haven’t assembled a competent midfield is shocking.


With all due respect you have no idea what happened behind the scenes so to immediately blame it on Dempster is just diluting the genuine arguments against him thus far.


He's the manager. He's clearly got a massive say in who we sign. The midfield is clearly not good enough. He's not addressed this, therefore he's shooting himself in the foot. It's completely incompetent that he's had all this time to fix a clear position of need and yet not done so.

It wouldn't even surprise me if he doesn't think that the midfield needed changing. Every single fan can see it.



True, but if the 2 or 3 targets he lined up then signed elsewhere or were too greedy, then we'd still be in this situation (nobody signed and no club statement). The buck stops with the manager, but it's by no means clear whether JD tried & failed or didn't bother at all. Both merit some criticism, but one far less than the other imo
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby jpstags » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:40 pm

Get Stephen Dawson signed.
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby smulls » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:20 pm

jpstags wrote:Get Stephen Dawson signed.


Bullshit! No and no and no. He didn’t have a leg! He is crocked full stop.
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby Chadman » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:40 pm

. . . or maybe he did sort the midfield? We shall see . . .

https://www.chad.co.uk/sport/football/c ... -1-9974016
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby Jimstag » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:33 pm

Chadman wrote:. . . or maybe he did sort the midfield? We shall see . . .

https://www.chad.co.uk/sport/football/c ... -1-9974016


I see what you did Adman!

Martin and I said similar on another thread that JD was talking about Shaughnessy and a central midfielder, hopefully it works. If he’s championship quality he should be able to do it.
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby Woodclanger 1 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:51 pm

Jimstag wrote:
Chadman wrote:. . . or maybe he did sort the midfield? We shall see . . .

https://www.chad.co.uk/sport/football/c ... -1-9974016


I see what you did Adman!

Martin and I said similar on another thread that JD was talking about Shaughnessy and a central midfielder, hopefully it works. If he’s championship quality he should be able to do it.


Or instead of a RW in midfield, we'll have a CH, or possibly both. Nothing's changed from DF, square pegs and all that
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby bobbystagsfan » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:09 pm

Woodclanger 1 wrote:
Jimstag wrote:
Chadman wrote:. . . or maybe he did sort the midfield? We shall see . . .

https://www.chad.co.uk/sport/football/c ... -1-9974016


I see what you did Adman!

Martin and I said similar on another thread that JD was talking about Shaughnessy and a central midfielder, hopefully it works. If he’s championship quality he should be able to do it.


Or instead of a RW in midfield, we'll have a CH, or possibly both. Nothing's changed from DF, square pegs and all that



It's like footballers cant play in two positions in this day and age
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:15 pm

Woodclanger 1 wrote:
Jimstag wrote:
Chadman wrote:. . . or maybe he did sort the midfield? We shall see . . .

https://www.chad.co.uk/sport/football/c ... -1-9974016


I see what you did Adman!

Martin and I said similar on another thread that JD was talking about Shaughnessy and a central midfielder, hopefully it works. If he’s championship quality he should be able to do it.


Or instead of a RW in midfield, we'll have a CH, or possibly both. Nothing's changed from DF, square pegs and all that



Don't think you can say that with any authority until we see where he actually plays the lad :D
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby Woodclanger 1 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:44 pm

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:
Woodclanger 1 wrote:
Jimstag wrote:
Chadman wrote:. . . or maybe he did sort the midfield? We shall see . . .

https://www.chad.co.uk/sport/football/c ... -1-9974016


I see what you did Adman!

Martin and I said similar on another thread that JD was talking about Shaughnessy and a central midfielder, hopefully it works. If he’s championship quality he should be able to do it.


Or instead of a RW in midfield, we'll have a CH, or possibly both. Nothing's changed from DF, square pegs and all that



Don't think you can say that with any authority until we see where he actually plays the lad :D


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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby yorkstag » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:21 pm

No please don’t let that get in the way of your constant whining
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:49 pm

here’s an idea: Lets wait and see what Saturday brings?
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby I am Spartacus » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:58 pm

EdwinstoweStag wrote:here’s an idea: Lets wait and see what Saturday brings?


My God, what an absolutely brilliant idea. You Edders, are a true Stagsnet visionary!
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:00 pm

I am Spartacus wrote:
EdwinstoweStag wrote:here’s an idea: Lets wait and see what Saturday brings?


My God, what an absolutely brilliant idea. You Edders, are a true Stagsnet visionary!


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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby lifestags » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:21 pm

Stephen Dawson is training with us according the training video they have put on I follow.

Sure it's him.
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby Amber Andy » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:36 am

lifestags wrote:Stephen Dawson is training with us according the training video they have put on I follow.

Sure it's him.

I hope SD gets fixed up with a club, (as I do all the Bury players). I'm not sure if that club is us.
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby part time pete » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:41 am

Isn’t Steven Dawson a McDonald type player whose legs have gone.

Are we sure we need that type of player.
Can we play Accrington Stanley every week.
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby BH_Stag » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:57 am

90% sure that’s Dawson.

Personally hope it’s just a favour to keep him ticking. He’s barely kicked a ball in the last 2 seasons.
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:12 am

I'm sure that Steven Dawson would bring some much needed grit and determination to the squad mentality. He doesn't need to be on the field much but his experience at Bury and the turmoil they went though but still achieved promotion could be just what this talented squad needs.
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby lifestags » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:16 am

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:I'm sure that Steven Dawson would bring some much needed grit and determination to the squad mentality. He doesn't need to be on the field much but his experience at Bury and the turmoil they went though but still achieved promotion could be just what this talented squad needs.


Watched him play against us last season, he was slow and wasnt the Stephen Dawson I remembered, thin he even got sent off? Put some timber on since he was with us last.
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby James » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:19 am

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:I'm sure that Steven Dawson would bring some much needed grit and determination to the squad mentality. He doesn't need to be on the field much but his experience at Bury and the turmoil they went though but still achieved promotion could be just what this talented squad needs.


We've got that with Bishop.
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby BH_Stag » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:31 am

James wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:I'm sure that Steven Dawson would bring some much needed grit and determination to the squad mentality. He doesn't need to be on the field much but his experience at Bury and the turmoil they went though but still achieved promotion could be just what this talented squad needs.


We've got that with Bishop.


Exactly. Pretty sure ‘Mini Bish’ :roll: and Macca should also be players that provide us with grit and determination if nothing else.
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby oldweststander » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:48 am

I think Dawson will surface in the Conference, he's a bit old now, wasn't regular at Bury last term I understand.
He is not the fitness addict that Bishop is.
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby Chrisuknottm » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:51 am

Seems we've all just shrugged our collective shoulders and accepted the inability to sign a true creative midfielder....we had long enough after the Leeming Street debacle and almost certainly knowing where he was going. So we don't get a replacement for DD who apparently was going to be the driving heart of the team. No disrespect to the lad from Leeds but we don't need a jack of all trades.
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby lifestags » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:56 am

Chrisuknottm wrote:Seems we've all just shrugged our collective shoulders and accepted the inability to sign a true creative midfielder....we had long enough after the Leeming Street debacle and almost certainly knowing where he was going. So we don't get a replacement for DD who apparently was going to be the driving heart of the team. No disrespect to the lad from Leeds but we don't need a jack of all trades.


Bit harsh on the lad from Leeds to be honest, he is cover for 2 positions if nothing else. (He may turn out to be brilliant by the way)
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Re: why didn’t he sort out Midfield

Postby Martin Shaw » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:06 am

lifestags wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:I'm sure that Steven Dawson would bring some much needed grit and determination to the squad mentality. He doesn't need to be on the field much but his experience at Bury and the turmoil they went though but still achieved promotion could be just what this talented squad needs.


Watched him play against us last season, he was slow and wasnt the Stephen Dawson I remembered, thin he even got sent off? Put some timber on since he was with us last.


Dawson started 4 league games last season, only 1 of which was after mid Sept. He was sent off against us in the EFL Trophy.
In fact just 13 league starts in the last 2 seasons.
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