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Draws over the past few seasons

Postby NG17_stag » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:01 pm

Why do we draw so much? Is there a reason behind it or is it just one of those things?

2019/20 season 3/5 = 60% joint highest
2018/19 season 16/46 = 35% 2nd highest
2017/18 season 18/46 = 39% 2nd highest
2016/17 season 15/46 = 33% 4th highest

Turn 2 of those draws into wins in 2017/18 and we’d be in the play offs. Same goes for last season, turn 2 of those draws into wins and we’d be promoted.

I’d love to see us really push on in the last 5/10 minutes of games and go for a winner. Rarely do you see the opposition on the back foot in injury time when we need a goal. Yet when we’re winning we seem to be camped in our 18 yard box at the end of games.

Drawing is getting very boring now.
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby Jimstag » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:20 am

Interesting stat, it’s still better than a defeat. I think the focus was on that the first few years in the league.
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby old ram stag » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:31 am

to think we missed out by 1 point last season some would even say 1 goal at times, yet in the past week we have in my opinion given away 5 points.
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:53 am

"Respect The Point" - David Flitcroft :lol:

We did not seem to score many late winners under DF and when he went for it against Stevenage he got caught by a sucker punch. We need to be braver and go for it late on. A win and a loss is better than two draws.

Late Winners under DF last season: Grimsby(H) (82 mins) and Crawley(H) (88 mins) at home
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:53 am

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:"Respect The Point" - David Flitcroft :lol:

We did not seem to score many late winners under DF and when he went for it against Stevenage he got caught by a sucker punch. We need to be braver and go for it late on. A win and a loss is better than two draws.

Late Winners under DF last season: Grimsby(H) (82 mins) and Crawley(H) (88 mins) at home


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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby NG17_stag » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:55 am

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:"Respect The Point" - David Flitcroft :lol:

We did not seem to score many late winners under DF and when he went for it against Stevenage he got caught by a sucker punch. We need to be braver and go for it late on. A win and a loss is better than two draws.

Late Winners under DF last season: Grimsby(H) (82 mins) and Crawley(H) (88 mins) at home


Exactly. We may get caught on the counter once or twice but we may also nick one. Points wise it works out better than drawing, and it also provides an entertainment factor, putting bums on seats.
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby Sweden Stag » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:37 am

Late goals against under DF last season: Colchester at home, Cambridge away, Bury away. But we scored very late at Lincoln (Mellis screamer) last term, too
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby part time pete » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:41 pm

Sweden Stag wrote:Late goals against under DF last season: Colchester at home, Cambridge away, Bury away. But we scored very late at Lincoln (Mellis screamer) last term, too


And we scored late at Cheltenham as well.
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby MTFCMAD » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:48 pm

Lots of draws is a sign of a hard to beat team.

Looks like we still don’t have enough quality to finish teams off.
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:05 pm

There's a big difference from quite rightly chasing the game when you are a goal down and having the balls to go for it when you are drawing.

You could argue we got caught out against Orient at 2-2 as we conceded a goal from arguably committing too many players up the pitch for a long throw and Orient got a little bit lucky as they had taken their foot off the gas when they made it 2-2 and started to waste time. I'd rather go for a late winner though.
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:18 pm

Crawley away last season was the most negative, miserable management of the last 30 mins a team going for automatic I've ever seen
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby The One » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:55 pm

Woodclanger 1 wrote:Crawley away last season was the most negative, miserable management of the last 30 mins a team going for automatic I've ever seen


Were you not at Cambridge or Northampton ?
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:25 pm

The One wrote:
Woodclanger 1 wrote:Crawley away last season was the most negative, miserable management of the last 30 mins a team going for automatic I've ever seen


Were you not at Cambridge or Northampton ?


Yes Cambridge and Northampton had just a little bit about them, in fact I'd have liked us to sign George Maris but Crawley were absolutely abysmal.
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:55 pm

Woodclanger 1 wrote:Crawley away last season was the most negative, miserable management of the last 30 mins a team going for automatic I've ever seen


DF should have gone for it at Crawley. Tyler Walker did hit the post late on but we did ease off in last 20 minutes or so and settled for the draw as DF knew that MK Dons were getting beat. Crawley were there to be beat.
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby julianshatnasty » Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:10 pm

It's the same team as last year except the two strikers signed to solve the problem are both injured. Rose is better but no reason to think the same team won't get the same results. It'll all come good when they're fit and firing.
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby West Ham 1969 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:31 pm

julianshatnasty wrote:It's the same team as last year except the two strikers signed to solve the problem are both injured. Rose is better but no reason to think the same team won't get the same results. It'll all come good when they're fit and firing.



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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby Amber Andy » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:32 pm

julianshatnasty wrote:It's the same team as last year except the two strikers signed to solve the problem are both injured. Rose is better but no reason to think the same team won't get the same results. It'll all come good when they're fit and firing.
Problem is it's not a given we will get fit and firing!

So many injuries at the start of the season makes me wonder what happened in pre season. It certainly wasn't as good as previous years.
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby bobbystagsfan » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:40 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
julianshatnasty wrote:It's the same team as last year except the two strikers signed to solve the problem are both injured. Rose is better but no reason to think the same team won't get the same results. It'll all come good when they're fit and firing.
Problem is it's not a given we will get fit and firing!

So many injuries at the start of the season makes me wonder what happened in pre season. It certainly wasn't as good as previous years.



Andy, do you realise that most if not all of our injuries have happened during a game? The injuries have nowt to do with pre season when our lads are getting injured during a game through fouls. We've just been unlucky.
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby Amber Andy » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:55 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
julianshatnasty wrote:It's the same team as last year except the two strikers signed to solve the problem are both injured. Rose is better but no reason to think the same team won't get the same results. It'll all come good when they're fit and firing.
Problem is it's not a given we will get fit and firing!

So many injuries at the start of the season makes me wonder what happened in pre season. It certainly wasn't as good as previous years.



Andy, do you realise that most if not all of our injuries have happened during a game? The injuries have nowt to do with pre season when our lads are getting injured during a game through fouls. We've just been unlucky.
I think the fact that we played mostly under 23 sides pre season hasn't prepared us for the rough and tumble of league two. I would be surprised if all our injuries were picked up in games. Didn't they say Pearce was injured in training ?
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby Grendon Stag » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:50 am

MTFCMAD wrote:Lots of draws is a sign of a hard to beat team.

Looks like we still don’t have enough quality to finish teams off.


We do but weve got 2 strikers with 40 goals last season between them on the treatment table.
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Re: Draws over the past few seasons

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:51 am

Grendon Stag wrote:
MTFCMAD wrote:Lots of draws is a sign of a hard to beat team.

Looks like we still don’t have enough quality to finish teams off.


We do but weve got 2 strikers with 40 goals last season between them on the treatment table.


Relief is on its way.

A bigger treatment table has been ordered.
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