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League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:47 pm

We are not dominating possession as much as we did last year which is worrying but this may also be down to the style of play as getting the ball forward quickly means we are more likely to lose possession. Lowest possession was at Carlisle (32%) but we won 2-0.

Interestingly the number of shots/attempts on goal has increased 48 v 40 but the number of shots by the opposition has significantly increased 55 v 40

This Season
Newport - Could have been 4-0 down at half time but ended up drawing 2-2 with 10 men (45% possession) (10 shots) (22 shots for Newport)
Morecambe - Could have been 4-0 down at half time but ended up drawing 2-2 with 10 men (58% possession) (18 shots) (8 shots for Morecambe)
Carlisle - A good 2-0 away win but did not create many chances. (32% possession) (6 shots) (14 shots for Carlisle)
Orient - Could have been 3-0 up at half time but ended up losing 3-2 (45% possession) (14 shots) (11 shots for Orient)

Last Season
Newport - Comfortable 3-0 win (57% possession) (11 shots) (14 shots for Newport)
Yeovil - 2-2 draw (52% possession) (14 shots) (11 shots for Yeovil)
Colchester United - 1-1 draw after needlessly conceding a late equalizer (61% possession) (4 shots) (4 shots for Col U)
Tranmere - Played well in a 0-0 draw. Had chances to win game. (59% possession) (11 shots) (11 shots for Tranmere)
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:58 pm

Expected Goals (just to cheer Martin up :lol: )

Newport County 2.4 Mansfield Town 1.5 (HT: 1.5 v 0.2)
Mansfield 1.7 Morecambe 0.8 (HT: 0.8 v 0.75)
Carlisle United 1.1 Mansfield Town 0.8 (HT: 0.6 v 0.65)
Mansfield Town 2.6 Leyton Orient 1.7 (HT: 1.8 v 0.25)

Based on xGs we should have lost at Newport, beat Morecambe, drawn at Carlisle and beat Orient (7 points)
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:53 am

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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:02 am

Expected Goals

Newport County 2.4 Mansfield Town 1.5 (HT: 1.5 v 0.2)
Mansfield 1.7 Morecambe 0.8 (HT: 0.8 v 0.75)
Carlisle United 1.1 Mansfield Town 0.8 (HT: 0.6 v 0.65)
Mansfield Town 2.6 Leyton Orient 1.7 (HT: 1.8 v 0.25)
Mansfield Town 1.9 Stevenage 0.5 (HT: 0.65 v 0.4)

We are 5th in the league in xG table (W3 D1 L1) so we are definitely not getting our just deserts at the moment. It suggests that our results should improve if we keep creating the same amount of chances.
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:04 am

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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Woodclanger 1 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:20 am

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Expected Goals

Newport County 2.4 Mansfield Town 1.5 (HT: 1.5 v 0.2)
Mansfield 1.7 Morecambe 0.8 (HT: 0.8 v 0.75)
Carlisle United 1.1 Mansfield Town 0.8 (HT: 0.6 v 0.65)
Mansfield Town 2.6 Leyton Orient 1.7 (HT: 1.8 v 0.25)
Mansfield Town 1.9 Stevenage 0.5 (HT: 0.65 v 0.4)

We are 5th in the league in xG table (W3 D1 L1) so we are definitely not getting our just deserts at the moment. It suggests that our results should improve if we keep creating the same amount of chances.


What utter Shiite. You can create all you want if can't take them.

Danny missed his easiest chance of the season yesterday and don't get me started on spanner foot McDonald when CJ laid him one on a plate!!
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:54 am

....but it proves the point Clanger that the Stags have not had the rub of the green so far and that's not taking into account having 9 players injured and three players suspended. Our results should improve soon if we can get key players back fit or get a few more quality players in the building.
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Woodclanger 1 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:59 am

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:....but it proves the point Clanger that the Stags have not had the rub of the green so far and that's not taking into account having 9 players injured and three players suspended. Our results should improve soon if we can get key players back fit or get a few more quality players in the building.


Should being the operative word.
In a very good post constructed by Gavin Brookes on another thread, even when he had most fit you can't see any cohesion in the play or how he's trying to achieve it, it all looked pretty directionless to me.
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Jimstag » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:39 am

I think TTFs first paragraph sums up my interpretation, we’ve gone more direct than we were under flitcroft. That has clearly helped Danny rose out as we’re closer to Evan’s style of play.

There becomes 2 issues there for me:
1 the fact that on Xg’s we would be higher up the league. Therefore we’re not clinical enough as Woody’s examples point out.
2 defensively we’ve not been the same as last season as the opposition have seen more of the ball and we seen teams able to counter attack us more effectively.

It then becomes a stick or twist situation, I think like we saw with Evans that this tactic may be more effective away from home and vs. teams that play higher up the pitch and less so vs. teams like Stevenage at home.
The other question I have is whether it’s the injuries and suspensions that have caused this or and intentional style change?
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:15 am

Expected Goals

Newport County 2.4 Mansfield Town 1.5 (HT: 1.5 v 0.2)
Mansfield 1.7 Morecambe 0.8 (HT: 0.8 v 0.75)
Carlisle United 1.1 Mansfield Town 0.8 (HT: 0.6 v 0.65)
Mansfield Town 2.6 Leyton Orient 1.7 (HT: 1.8 v 0.25)
Mansfield Town 1.9 Stevenage 0.5 (HT: 0.65 v 0.4)
Exeter City 1.3 Mansfield Town 0.4 (HT: 1.2 v 0.2)

We are 9th in the league in xG table (W3 D1 L2 = 10 points)

According to xG, we should have beaten Morecambe, Orient and Stevenage, drawn with Carlisle and lost at Newport and Exeter. We are therefore under achieving by 4 points at the moment based on xG.
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby ST4GS » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:41 am

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Expected Goals

Newport County 2.4 Mansfield Town 1.5 (HT: 1.5 v 0.2)
Mansfield 1.7 Morecambe 0.8 (HT: 0.8 v 0.75)
Carlisle United 1.1 Mansfield Town 0.8 (HT: 0.6 v 0.65)
Mansfield Town 2.6 Leyton Orient 1.7 (HT: 1.8 v 0.25)
Mansfield Town 1.9 Stevenage 0.5 (HT: 0.65 v 0.4)
Exeter City 1.3 Mansfield Town 0.4 (HT: 1.2 v 0.2)

We are 9th in the league in xG table (W3 D1 L2 = 10 points)

According to xG, we should have beaten Morecambe, Orient and Stevenage, drawn with Carlisle and lost at Newport and Exeter. We are therefore under achieving by 4 points at the moment based on xG.

Morecambe were only expected to get 0.8 goals for all the chances they had !!! - bollux
I assume expected goals is calculated from the chances they had (the one that hit the bar from 60 yards would have been around 0.01?)
They should have been 4 or 5 up at half time. Their first goal alone would have been a 0.8 chance as it was from very close range.
The second was also a decent chance. Ball at good height to head and only keeper to beat who was in no mans land. That chance would have been 0.6 ish. They had other chances too.
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:33 am

Possession and Shots/Attempts on Goal

The pattern continues, We are not dominating possession as much as last season 49% v 57%.

The number of shots/attempts on goal is up from 71 to 78 but the number of shots by the opposition has significantly increased from 54 to 68.

This Season
Newport: 2-2 draw, 45% possession, 10 v 22 shots
Morecambe: 2-2 draw, 58% possession, 18 v 8 shots
Carlisle: 2-0 win, 32% possession, 6 v 14 shots
Orient: 3-2 defeat, 45% possession, 14 v 11 shots
Stevenage: 0-0 draw, 54% possession, 22 v 4 shots
Exeter City: 1-0 defeat, 57% possession, 9 v 8 shots
Average possession 49%, 78 v 68 shots (+10)

Last Season
Newport: 3-0 win, 57% possession, 11 v 14 shots
Yeovil: 2-2 draw, 52% possession, 14 v 11 shots
Colchester United: 1-1, 61% possession, 4 v 4
Tranmere: 0-0 draw, 59% possession, 11 v 11
Macclesfield Town: 1-1 draw, 51% possession, 14 v 12
Carlisle United: 1-0 win, 62% possession, 17 v 2
Average possession 57%, 71 v 54 shots (+17)

Corners: 30 v 34
Goals from corners: 0 v 1
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby weststander » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:49 am

Would of, could of, should of. It's 4th division football at the end of the day. The only stat that matters to me is the final score.
Then comes possession, shots, tackles, drinks breaks, times arses scratched etc etc.
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:13 pm

Whoscored.com have announced they now have statistical date for League One and League Two teams, which is brilliant news. Will delve into it more later, but something that stands out straight away is that we are 4th highest in the league for long passes per game.
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby part time pete » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:54 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:Whoscored.com have announced they now have statistical date for League One and League Two teams, which is brilliant news. Will delve into it more later, but something that stands out straight away is that we are 4th highest in the league for long passes per game.



I think the reason for this is the back three have to go long, because the midfield are not ‘showing’ to accept a pass from the back three.
Can we play Accrington Stanley every week.
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby cassellswasmagic » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:47 pm

The only stat that matters is the score. Possession doesn’t always equate to victory. I am more bothered about our rubbish defending than any other stat atm. Playing tippy tappy boring sideways football doesn’t mean nothing.
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:34 am

We still have not improved at set pieces. One goal from a free kick at Newport although we scored from a quick restart at Carlisle and a corner in the League Cup against Morecambe.

Most goals from set piece situations - LEAGUE TWO

6 - Grimsby
4 - Salford
3 - Crawley
3 - Scunthorpe
2 - Port Vale
2 - Cambridge
2 - Leyton Orient
2 - Cheltenham
2 - Northampton
2 - Morecambe
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:53 am

MTFCMusings wrote:Whoscored.com have announced they now have statistical date for League One and League Two teams, which is brilliant news. Will delve into it more later, but something that stands out straight away is that we are 4th highest in the league for long passes per game.


Thanks for this Sam. We certainly seem to be more of a long ball side on the stats and we are not getting in enough crosses.

Long Balls
1 Salford City 90
2 Exeter 87
3 Mansfield 86
4 Grimsby 86
5 Macclesfield 85
6 Scunthorpe 83
7 Leyton Orient 82
8 Swindon 82
9 Bradford 82
10 Stevenage 80

Short Passes
1 Forest Green 409
2 Plymouth 397
3 Carlisle 385
4 Swindon 362
5 Crewe 351
6 Cambridge U 335
7 Colchester 311
8 Leyton Orient 306
9 Exeter 283
10 Port Vale 280
18 Mansfield Town 244

Crosses
1 Leyton Orient 23
2 Stevenage 23
3 Scunthorpe 23
4 Crewe 22
5 Crawley 22
6 Walsall 22
7 Cambridge U 21
8 Port Vale 21
9 Cheltenham 21
10 Exeter 20
14 Mansfield 19
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:11 am

Mansfield Town Stats

We are bottom of the league for pass success % which demonstrates the need for more quality midfield players.

We are also good in the air and don't play the offside trap

Pass Succession - 24th
Goals - 5th=
Aerial Duals Won - 5th
Shots - 10th=
Possession - 15th
Overall Rating 14th

Attack
Shots - 10th=
Shots Off Target - 11=
Dribbles - 19th
Fouled - 7th
Overall Rating - 14th

Defence
Shots Conceded - 8th best
Tackles - 12th
Interceptions - 6th
Fouls - 6th best
Offsides - 24th
Overall Rating - 14th
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Woodclanger 1 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:38 am

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:Whoscored.com have announced they now have statistical date for League One and League Two teams, which is brilliant news. Will delve into it more later, but something that stands out straight away is that we are 4th highest in the league for long passes per game.


Thanks for this Sam. We certainly seem to be more of a long ball side on the stats and we are not getting in enough crosses.

Long Balls
1 Salford City 90
2 Exeter 87
3 Mansfield 86
4 Grimsby 86
5 Macclesfield 85
6 Scunthorpe 83
7 Leyton Orient 82
8 Swindon 82
9 Bradford 82
10 Stevenage 80

Short Passes
1 Forest Green 409
2 Plymouth 397
3 Carlisle 385
4 Swindon 362
5 Crewe 351
6 Cambridge U 335
7 Colchester 311
8 Leyton Orient 306
9 Exeter 283
10 Port Vale 280
18 Mansfield Town 244

Crosses
1 Leyton Orient 23
2 Stevenage 23
3 Scunthorpe 23
4 Crewe 22
5 Crawley 22
6 Walsall 22
7 Cambridge U 21
8 Port Vale 21
9 Cheltenham 21
10 Exeter 20
14 Mansfield 19


Of course we don't get crosses in, there's no one out wide to do it.
We are playing narrow again as though we want to pass our way through but then we just hump it and hope.
All the stats on all the sites just back up he still hasn't got another 'style' he wants to implement, most had already worked that out bar the odd few.
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:26 pm

Expected Goals

Newport County 2.4 Mansfield Town 1.5 (HT: 1.5 v 0.2)
Mansfield 1.7 Morecambe 0.8 (HT: 0.8 v 0.75)
Carlisle United 1.1 Mansfield Town 0.8 (HT: 0.6 v 0.65)
Mansfield Town 2.6 Leyton Orient 1.7 (HT: 1.8 v 0.25)
Mansfield Town 1.9 Stevenage 0.5 (HT: 0.65 v 0.4)
Exeter City 1.3 Mansfield Town 0.4 (HT: 1.2 v 0.2)
Mansfield Town 1.4 Scunthorpe United 0.9 (HT: 0.75 v 0.5)
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:55 pm

Mansfield Town Stats

Goals: 6th=
Open Play: 6th=
Counter Attack (0): 11th=
Set Piece (2): 6th=
Penalty (2): 1st=

Shots per game: 9th
Total Shots: 11th
Penalty Area Shots: 11th (52%)
6 Yard Box Shots: 11th (7%)
Outside Box Shots: 12th (41%)

Attack Sides:
Left 39%
Centre 22%
Right 39%

Shot Directions
Left 27%
Centre 57%
Right 16%

Possession: 16th
Unsuccessful Touches: 2nd best
Dispossessed: 10th
Pass Success %: 24th
Number of Passes: 22nd
Accurate Short Passes: 23rd
Inaccurate Short Passes: 9th worst
Accurate Long Passes: 11th
Inaccurate Long Passes: 3rd worst

Pass Type
Crosses: 19th
Long Balls: 3rd
Short Passes: 22nd

Number of Aerial Duals: 4th
Aerial Duals Won: 4th
Aerial Duals Lost: 4th

Discipline: Yellow Cards 6th Highest (14), Red Cards Highest (3)

Attack
Shots: 9th
Shots Off Target: 14th
Dribbles: 18th
Fouled: 7th
Overall Rating: 11th

Defence
Shots Conceded: 7th= best
Tackles: 10th
Interceptions: 2nd
Fouls: 8th best
Offsides: 21st
Overall Rating: 11th

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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby The One » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:01 pm

Too much info TTF, at end of day not good enough.
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby chip63 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:42 pm

I enjoy the stats.
3rd place for long balls and 0 goals from counter attack says everything we know about midfield.
Hopefully 5 more games and they will improve for the better.
Will be good to see the difference.
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Re: League 2 Statistics 2019-2020

Postby Stags 2002 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:30 pm

The One wrote:Too much info TTF, at end of day not good enough.


This confirms all you need to know.

Pass Success %: 24th 
Number of Passes: 22nd
Accurate Short Passes: 23rd

Pass Type
Long Balls: 3rd
Short Passes: 22nd
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