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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby James » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:18 am

Vicar Jeremiah wrote:That was painful, nearly as painful as the Bristol City added time defeat. Being ancient and having watched stags since time. began, I am confident in my assessment, that what we have here, is an average mid table side, that will win some and lose some.

With investment in January we may make a late run for the last play off place, and hit it with some momentum


Completely agree.
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby BoughtonStag71 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:25 am

I am Spartacus wrote:Could make the game because I was sipping cocktails, in the casino of a cruise ship in the Mediterranean Sea. Did I miss anything?


When I got home on Tuesday night I had the misfortune of Rachel Riley and Holly Willoughby waiting for me in a pool of lime green jelly. Footballing wise, er no :o
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby The One » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:34 am

Vicar Jeremiah wrote:That was painful, nearly as painful as the Bristol City added time defeat. Being ancient and having watched stags since time. began, I am confident in my assessment, that what we have here, is an average mid table side, that will win some and lose some.

With investment in January we may make a late run for the last play off place, and hit it with some momentum


Have you been on the Communion wine?
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby I am Spartacus » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:13 pm

I am Spartacus wrote:Could make the game because I was sipping cocktails, in the casino of a cruise ship in the Mediterranean Sea. Did I miss anything?


Sorry I meant to say ‘Couldn’t make the game’ and to be fair after what I have read I am rather glad I didn’t.

Must have been the sea air and ‘Singapore Slings’ that affected my grammar.
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby Amber Andy » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:56 pm

arsene wengers coat wrote:
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Sneag wrote:Well it's the morning after the night before, and I'm still fuming!!


Yep infuriated. Actually pissed off at JR too now.
Why ?


Because we've bought into #projectpromotion, we were so close last season. I think the DF sacking was a hasty mistake and I think the hasty appointment of JD was an even hastier mistake.

We're going backwards, quite quickly and JR is nowhere to be seen.

Maybe it's all still too raw, I dunno.

I agree with you. I'm not at the pissed off stage just yet. I think JR will give JD around eight more games to improve things.
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby spanishstag » Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:45 pm

Bloody hell we lost a game ,ok in dire circumstances ,but folk on here are just hyperventilating fgs get a grip and man up ,raspberry happens,we have a thread about nutts county and there entitled fans but we have some precious ones on here
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby wardy12345 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:44 pm

For me there have been too many awful performances. The defending is dreadful midfield is nonexistent but the forwards are exceptional. Saving us from being on 0 points.

There seems to be little to no organisation or formation very little game management and at times players don’t seem to know their roles.

For me all of the above is down to the managment team which looks to be lost with very little idea how to turn things around. Which is a real shame because I thought dempster would do a good job maybe he was promoted to early.

As a matter of urgency a keeper, centre back and a defensive midfielder need to be signed.

I feel very sorry for the RAdfords.
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby arsene wengers coat » Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:46 pm

spanishstag wrote:Bloody hell we lost a game ,ok in dire circumstances ,but folk on here are just hyperventilating fgs get a grip and man up ,raspberry happens,we have a thread about nutts county and there entitled fans but we have some precious ones on here


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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby Jamie » Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:47 pm

spanishstag wrote:Bloody hell we lost a game ,ok in dire circumstances ,but folk on here are just hyperventilating fgs get a grip and man up ,raspberry happens,we have a thread about nutts county and there entitled fans but we have some precious ones on here


Its not just one game. It's all of them bar Carlisle, where by all accounts we defended well but didn't have much possession.

Pre season was weak at best. The defence looks a shambles. We have some good things but they are few and far between (Rose form and Gordon looks handy).

No one is hyperventilating, we're just concerned at what we're seeing. I've been watching us for 25 years now and like someone else said, you can spot when things arent right. We arent fit enough, we arent as committed, we arent as well organised, we arent as attacking. If you want to pretend everything is fine that's up to you but a lot of fans are worried at what they're seeing, not just pretending it will all be ok based on nothing.

I dont feel entitled at all. I'm expectant because we've been told we have a strong budget and are going for promotion and we had a team last year that we've retained and that narrowly failed at the last hurdle. That said, 2 nil up at home at half time I bloody well felt entitled to be taking 3 points home. We were badly let down by the players and management.
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby yorkshire stag » Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:52 pm

Jamie wrote:
spanishstag wrote:Bloody hell we lost a game ,ok in dire circumstances ,but folk on here are just hyperventilating fgs get a grip and man up ,raspberry happens,we have a thread about nutts county and there entitled fans but we have some precious ones on here


Its not just one game. It's all of them bar Carlisle, where by all accounts we defended well but didn't have much possession.

Pre season was weak at best. The defence looks a shambles. We have some good things but they are few and far between (Rose form and Gordon looks handy).

No one is hyperventilating, we're just concerned at what we're seeing. I've been watching us for 25 years now and like someone else said, you can spot when things arent right. We arent fit enough, we arent as committed, we arent as well organised, we arent as attacking. If you want to pretend everything is fine that's up to you but a lot of fans are worried at what they're seeing, not just pretending it will all be ok based on nothing.

I dont feel entitled at all. I'm expectant because we've been told we have a strong budget and are going for promotion and we had a team last year that we've retained and that narrowly failed at the last hurdle. That said, 2 nil up at home at half time I bloody well felt entitled to be taking 3 points home. We were badly let down by the players and management.


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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby spanishstag » Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:09 pm

No one is hyperventalaling ,have you read some of the posts on here , what a load of tosh ,you yourself have already said players should be sacked after the leeming street incident ,because they are role models and your seven year old son idolises one of them ,now we have fans criticising the man who saved our club ,oh yes you never replied to my post about putting my hard earned in did you,,in you post about jr not walking away because he has too much invested ,as if you know In fact you remind me of adamstag
So condesending but full of bile ,,ive said i think we will get it right ,i do ,thats not pretending it will be ok ,in fact it would be easier to post nothing and not get the vitriol ,but i really dont give a toss what posters think ,its a forum after all
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby BH_Stag » Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:13 pm

Jamie wrote:
spanishstag wrote:Bloody hell we lost a game ,ok in dire circumstances ,but folk on here are just hyperventilating fgs get a grip and man up ,raspberry happens,we have a thread about nutts county and there entitled fans but we have some precious ones on here


Its not just one game. It's all of them bar Carlisle, where by all accounts we defended well but didn't have much possession.

Pre season was weak at best. The defence looks a shambles. We have some good things but they are few and far between (Rose form and Gordon looks handy).

No one is hyperventilating, we're just concerned at what we're seeing. I've been watching us for 25 years now and like someone else said, you can spot when things arent right. We arent fit enough, we arent as committed, we arent as well organised, we arent as attacking. If you want to pretend everything is fine that's up to you but a lot of fans are worried at what they're seeing, not just pretending it will all be ok based on nothing.

I dont feel entitled at all. I'm expectant because we've been told we have a strong budget and are going for promotion and we had a team last year that we've retained and that narrowly failed at the last hurdle. That said, 2 nil up at home at half time I bloody well felt entitled to be taking 3 points home. We were badly let down by the players and management.


Agree with all of this.
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby gazza1988 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:17 pm

Compared to last season we have 1 point less. DF drew his next game, if JD wins on Saturday then he would be 1 point better off. A draw would see us 1 point behind still and a loss would put us 2 points behind. Now the next game after we lost it last season. So all is not lost. The problem is JD doesn't have any kind of reputation at senior level so is afforded less time. Steve Evans had a reputation of multiple promotions and even got a song about how well he got us playing (which I thought was Paul Cox esque but with a higher standard of player in the final third so it stuck better). DF had a previous promotion so came with a decent rep but many thought that because we were in a play off position in February we had a god given right to finish there under a new manager so some sections were calling for his head but not as many as there is now calling for Dempster's head. It is far too early to be judging either way. We've played 5 competitive games against 4 different teams. Hardly a good indicator of a season.
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby Spiritater » Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:34 pm

consistency is key. so far we've been unable to stitch two decent halves of footy together in any competitive game this season. unless we can we'll be watching the promotion fight from outside the ring. the game lasts for 90mins. gerrit clucking sorted.
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby bobbystagsfan » Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:37 pm

Spiritater wrote:consistency is key. so far we've been unable to stitch two decent halves of footy together in any competitive game this season. unless we can we'll be watching the promotion fight from outside the ring. the game lasts for 90mins. gerrit clucking sorted.



consistency has been a problem since Evans was in charge.
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby James » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:16 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
Spiritater wrote:consistency is key. so far we've been unable to stitch two decent halves of footy together in any competitive game this season. unless we can we'll be watching the promotion fight from outside the ring. the game lasts for 90mins. gerrit clucking sorted.



consistency has been a problem since Evans was in charge.


We went about 22 games unbeaten last season didn't we? :lol:
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby bobbystagsfan » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:27 pm

James wrote:
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Spiritater wrote:consistency is key. so far we've been unable to stitch two decent halves of footy together in any competitive game this season. unless we can we'll be watching the promotion fight from outside the ring. the game lasts for 90mins. gerrit clucking sorted.



consistency has been a problem since Evans was in charge.


We went about 22 games unbeaten last season didn't we? :lol:



correct, but it means naff all if you don't achieve anything at the end of the season.
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby The One » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:58 pm

Just watched Orient 2nd goal on EMT. Oh dear.
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Leyton Orient

Postby Matt_T » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:47 pm

What happen last night??

Is JD out of his depth or does he need more time?

Me personally give him time, especially after what's happening off the field and the injury list.

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Re: Leyton Orient

Postby HitchcocksShins » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:34 pm

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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby Jamie » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:31 am

spanishstag wrote:No one is hyperventalaling ,have you read some of the posts on here , what a load of tosh ,you yourself have already said players should be sacked after the leeming street incident ,because they are role models and your seven year old son idolises one of them ,now we have fans criticising the man who saved our club ,oh yes you never replied to my post about putting my hard earned in did you,,in you post about jr not walking away because he has too much invested ,as if you know In fact you remind me of adamstag
So condesending but full of bile ,,ive said i think we will get it right ,i do ,thats not pretending it will be ok ,in fact it would be easier to post nothing and not get the vitriol ,but i really dont give a toss what posters think ,its a forum after all


I said they should be sacked if it's all true and Mellis is equally culpable he was there and did nothing. I've no problem with that. I also said suspension was correct until all the facts are known, unlike many others who wanted instant dismissals.

I didn't reply to your hard earned comment because quite frankly I was right and the point was made. At least you put more in that some other prominent mouth pieces on here.

My JR comment is fact. He owns the ground (£2m) and the club owes him a further £4m (give or take) in loans. Please explain how he can leave unless he either finds a buyer willing to spend 4x the clubs market value (never going to happen) or takes a huge lost by writing off his debt? This is simple economics... If he did take a huge loss and left whilst it would be a shame it would actually be a huge win for the club (ie by getting £Xm written off). Wont happen either way. But you and others using him as a tool to make a point, ie 'I'm surprised JR doesn't ditch us' etc is just bull poop.

And it's fine to be optimistic but dont start crying when people disagree. We've had a poor start footballing wise, big problems off the pitch, red cards, injury issues, the owners have moved abroad, the manager is a rookie, we're all smarting from last year... but hey, if you can find some green shoots in there and believe we'll still achieve something. Good for you. Many dont share that blind optimism.

I'm glad you dont care what people think. This forum is mostly a sespit just like FB. I stopped caring what people thought of me or my views on here a long long time ago.
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Re: O's scorefred sponsored by 'There's trouble at t'Mill'

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:24 am

bobbystagsfan wrote:
Spiritater wrote:consistency is key. so far we've been unable to stitch two decent halves of footy together in any competitive game this season. unless we can we'll be watching the promotion fight from outside the ring. the game lasts for 90mins. gerrit clucking sorted.



consistency has been a problem since Evans was in charge.



It took both Evans and DF a while to get the team playing consistently well - in many of the matches of their early tenures the players often looked lost & unable to fight out a win. I guess many have high hopes for this season, but perhaps some of the reactions are a reflection of their confidence in JD?
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