Rob wrote:Cook was definitely having his shirt pulled, it was a clear penalty. The assistant our side was almost as useless as the so-called supporters in the QLE who rather than back our side decided to slag off our keeper, the utter losers.
In my opinion, no blame attached to Logan who was correctly positioned, but Pearce should have done better, allowing Alessandra to get in the header.
Random Hero wrote:In my opinion, no blame attached to Logan who was correctly positioned, but Pearce should have done better, allowing Alessandra to get in the header.
Have you watched the replay of the second goal, Martin?!
I'd have to strongly disagree with your assessment of it. Logan hesitates, comes - then stops, then attempts to come again but it's way too late by then. How on earth is Pearce meant to know whose ball it is, when Logan is so indecisive?!
The simple fact is that, if he stays on his line, there are two defenders around the striker who either a) mop up, b) at pressure the striker into a first time shot from distance - an easy save to make for a correctly positioned goalkeeper or c) controlling the ball. Logan in no mans land on the penalty spot gives the striker an easy decision to make, and pretty much a freebie with the lob.
I think you'll struggle to find a goalkeeping coach in the land who would claim that there was NO portion of blame to be attached to Logan.
(he doesn’t mince his words)Firstly, the full back is doing nothing to stop a 58 year old getting to the ball before him and advancing down the line. Lazy.
The GK can see everything in that situation first and foremost. Needs to talk.
That far out, CB probably does need to head it, though without the shout from the GK he’s blindsided to the attacker.
Its a bad goal to concede all round but the GK has to do better. He’s indecisive, isn’t positioned correctly and doesn’t look to be talking - that kills defenders. It’s a cracking ball from said 58 year old but I do feel for the CB. GK stays on his line and he’s got a chance to recover after being blindsided, as the striker then has to control it at that range from goal in order to get a shot away.
Majority blame with the GK.
cerfjaune wrote:Although not too many people have brought this up, but CJ’s role in the starting XI seems to me to be problematical. I can understand why JD wants him to start. But he is not a RB nor a RwingB. He has to take some responsibility for both goals on Saturday.
If the manager wants him to have some influence on the game from the left, he should start him from there, not change the system after 25 minutes when we’re 2-0 down. It’s the manager’s job to decide how best to accommodate a player who will always be a potential match winner.
Obviously I’m not advocating that we don’t play CJ. But if he lines up on the right side of defence at the start of the match, I’m not surprised if we’re chasing the game by halftime
S7AGS wrote:Play your best players in their best positions for crying out loud! If it means benching 1 or 2 to make it happen then do that...you can always bring them on and tell them to earn a starting berth.
Irritates me all this playing players out of position just to keep them in the first 11...it didn’t work for flitcroft so dempster has a clean sheet to do it differently and Is just falling into the same trap!
Sort it dempster!
Random Hero wrote:In my opinion, no blame attached to Logan who was correctly positioned, but Pearce should have done better, allowing Alessandra to get in the header.
Have you watched the replay of the second goal, Martin?!
I'd have to strongly disagree with your assessment of it. Logan hesitates, comes - then stops, then attempts to come again but it's way too late by then. How on earth is Pearce meant to know whose ball it is, when Logan is so indecisive?!
The simple fact is that, if he stays on his line, there are two defenders around the striker who either a) mop up, b) at pressure the striker into a first time shot from distance - an easy save to make for a correctly positioned goalkeeper or c) controlling the ball. Logan in no mans land on the penalty spot gives the striker an easy decision to make, and pretty much a freebie with the lob.
I think you'll struggle to find a goalkeeping coach in the land who would claim that there was NO portion of blame to be attached to Logan.
Must give credit to Ellison. What a ball. He meant it as well. He put it in the only position available to achieve a goalscoring chance. It was a one in twenty probability ball at best.Martin Shaw wrote:Random Hero wrote:In my opinion, no blame attached to Logan who was correctly positioned, but Pearce should have done better, allowing Alessandra to get in the header.
Have you watched the replay of the second goal, Martin?!
I'd have to strongly disagree with your assessment of it. Logan hesitates, comes - then stops, then attempts to come again but it's way too late by then. How on earth is Pearce meant to know whose ball it is, when Logan is so indecisive?!
The simple fact is that, if he stays on his line, there are two defenders around the striker who either a) mop up, b) at pressure the striker into a first time shot from distance - an easy save to make for a correctly positioned goalkeeper or c) controlling the ball. Logan in no mans land on the penalty spot gives the striker an easy decision to make, and pretty much a freebie with the lob.
I think you'll struggle to find a goalkeeping coach in the land who would claim that there was NO portion of blame to be attached to Logan.
It's a high ball from the left touchline on the halfway line which bounces on the edge of the area. The central defender should be clearing it, either heading it away or getting something on it on the half volley, in my opinion. The goalkeeper can't come for it as he risks catching it/carrying it outside the area. I don't think a goalkeeper should be on his line for a diagonal ball from the halfway line.
ST4GS wrote:Must give credit to Ellison. What a ball. He meant it as well. He put it in the only position available to achieve a goalscoring chance. It was a one in twenty probability ball at best.Martin Shaw wrote:Random Hero wrote:In my opinion, no blame attached to Logan who was correctly positioned, but Pearce should have done better, allowing Alessandra to get in the header.
Have you watched the replay of the second goal, Martin?!
I'd have to strongly disagree with your assessment of it. Logan hesitates, comes - then stops, then attempts to come again but it's way too late by then. How on earth is Pearce meant to know whose ball it is, when Logan is so indecisive?!
The simple fact is that, if he stays on his line, there are two defenders around the striker who either a) mop up, b) at pressure the striker into a first time shot from distance - an easy save to make for a correctly positioned goalkeeper or c) controlling the ball. Logan in no mans land on the penalty spot gives the striker an easy decision to make, and pretty much a freebie with the lob.
I think you'll struggle to find a goalkeeping coach in the land who would claim that there was NO portion of blame to be attached to Logan.
It's a high ball from the left touchline on the halfway line which bounces on the edge of the area. The central defender should be clearing it, either heading it away or getting something on it on the half volley, in my opinion. The goalkeeper can't come for it as he risks catching it/carrying it outside the area. I don't think a goalkeeper should be on his line for a diagonal ball from the halfway line.
Martin Shaw wrote:Random Hero wrote:In my opinion, no blame attached to Logan who was correctly positioned, but Pearce should have done better, allowing Alessandra to get in the header.
Have you watched the replay of the second goal, Martin?!
I'd have to strongly disagree with your assessment of it. Logan hesitates, comes - then stops, then attempts to come again but it's way too late by then. How on earth is Pearce meant to know whose ball it is, when Logan is so indecisive?!
The simple fact is that, if he stays on his line, there are two defenders around the striker who either a) mop up, b) at pressure the striker into a first time shot from distance - an easy save to make for a correctly positioned goalkeeper or c) controlling the ball. Logan in no mans land on the penalty spot gives the striker an easy decision to make, and pretty much a freebie with the lob.
I think you'll struggle to find a goalkeeping coach in the land who would claim that there was NO portion of blame to be attached to Logan.
It's a high ball from the left touchline on the halfway line which bounces on the edge of the area. The central defender should be clearing it, either heading it away or getting something on it on the half volley, in my opinion. The goalkeeper can't come for it as he risks catching it/carrying it outside the area. I don't think a goalkeeper should be on his line for a diagonal ball from the halfway line.
Martin Shaw wrote:your professional analyst says "GK stays on his line ...". He does realise the ball is crossed from the halfway line does he? No goalkeeper is supposed to be on his line when the ball is on the halfway line, so he can't possibly "stay" there. Now there could be an argument to say that the goalkeeper should backtrack once he realises the ball is going to bounce up from bouncing on the edge of the area, but does he have time to do that? I don't think he does. It was 2 seconds from Ellison striking it from the halfway line, to it bouncing on the edge of the area. So he's in a reasonable position. It's a brilliant ball from Ellison, a great header from Alessandra, but Pearce should clear it or at least make it more difficult for Alessandra.
Random Hero wrote:Martin Shaw wrote:your professional analyst says "GK stays on his line ...". He does realise the ball is crossed from the halfway line does he? No goalkeeper is supposed to be on his line when the ball is on the halfway line, so he can't possibly "stay" there. Now there could be an argument to say that the goalkeeper should backtrack once he realises the ball is going to bounce up from bouncing on the edge of the area, but does he have time to do that? I don't think he does. It was 2 seconds from Ellison striking it from the halfway line, to it bouncing on the edge of the area. So he's in a reasonable position. It's a brilliant ball from Ellison, a great header from Alessandra, but Pearce should clear it or at least make it more difficult for Alessandra.
Agreed... he should be on his 6 yard box when the ball is in that position. But when the ball is delivered he comes to claim it, hesitates, and then comes again. The indecisiveness cost us because by that point he was never going to get there, and never going to get back either. If he doesn’t make that initial move, he catches it after the striker heads it, simple as. If he starts to come to claim it he has to go through with it. To do neither one nor the other in the end leaves him at least partly at fault.
Completely agree that Pearce should do better... but to say there is NO blame attributed to Logan in your report is the line I take issue with.
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