cassellswasmagic wrote:Random Hero wrote:This is peak Stagsnet to be honest. We aren’t allowed to criticise a single player now without someone saying he is ‘giving his all’.
Lads I’d give my left testicle to play for the Stags and help us win, but that’s means nothing. Conrad Logan is a complete and utter liability. I wish this was a nice game, but it isn’t, and he’s will cost us points once again this season... he has to be replaced.
Replace him with who though? It’s probably too late.
pemill wrote:Stag95 wrote:The sooner Bobby is back the better.
Don't kid yourself it would have made any difference yesterday or at Newport, the defence have got to defend.
FarnieStag wrote:What will the boo boys do when/If Conrad is dropped and Bobby or other new keeper makes the inevitable league 2 goalie errors? The answer is they'll find another scapegoat. It's a good job the Radfords are chucking stupid amounts of cash in salaries as I don't think players would want to play in front of our fans otherwise.
Logan is a good keeper at this level. It was the defence in front of him that was poor yesterday
Sneag wrote:FarnieStag wrote:What will the boo boys do when/If Conrad is dropped and Bobby or other new keeper makes the inevitable league 2 goalie errors? The answer is they'll find another scapegoat. It's a good job the Radfords are chucking stupid amounts of cash in salaries as I don't think players would want to play in front of our fans otherwise.
Logan is a good keeper at this level. It was the defence in front of him that was poor yesterday
No one expects 4th division keeper (or any keeper for that matter) to be infallable, they all make mistakes.
It's the frequency of those mistakes that determine a keeper's worth.
Sneag wrote:FarnieStag wrote:What will the boo boys do when/If Conrad is dropped and Bobby or other new keeper makes the inevitable league 2 goalie errors? The answer is they'll find another scapegoat. It's a good job the Radfords are chucking stupid amounts of cash in salaries as I don't think players would want to play in front of our fans otherwise.
Logan is a good keeper at this level. It was the defence in front of him that was poor yesterday
No one expects 4th division keeper (or any keeper for that matter) to be infallable, they all make mistakes.
It's the frequency of those mistakes that determine a keeper's worth.
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:We actually saw him complete a full game against Forest under 23's and he looked quite competent to me. Of course you can't judge a keeper properly until you've seen him play a good few games.
I think Mr Logan is an excellent shot stopper but poor on crosses and decision making. I don't know what the new lad will be like long term.
FarnieStag wrote:What will the boo boys do when/If Conrad is dropped and Bobby or other new keeper makes the inevitable league 2 goalie errors? The answer is they'll find another scapegoat. It's a good job the Radfords are chucking stupid amounts of cash in salaries as I don't think players would want to play in front of our fans otherwise.
Logan is a good keeper at this level. It was the defence in front of him that was poor yesterday
Jamie wrote:Logan was at fault for the 2nd... and for nearly getting lobbed like that. I think a lot of the frustration comes from his slow distribution and poor kicking. The mocking that led to him sarcastically clapping was because he did get it out quickly and accurately for once.
Some of the moaning about him went and is still going too far. Hes a decent keeper for this level and in fact most keepers at this level cost you points at some stage. The problem comes when they're doing it too often. That isn't the case for Logan yet, especially as we've only played twice.
I think he also took the brunt of the fans anger at the teams performance yesterday, more so than just his own.
Vice President wrote:I have never seen a Stags goal keeper criticised as much as Logan.
Looking back at previous Mansfield promotion winning sides (at a similar level) we have had the likes of: Alan Marriott, Kevin Pilkington, Kevin Hitchcock, and Rod Arnold. It is all very well people saying "well this is league 2 - we can't expect great keepers" ... but the afore-mentioned keepers are the standard that we should realistically expect if we are going for promotion. Having seen Conrad Logan over the last two years, I don't think that he is anywhere near as reliable as any of the above - and that is the standard that we need.
John Dempster missed a trick over the summer regarding the all important goal keeper position. I don't know what Logan's contract situation was - but we should have been looking for a top (Number 1) keeper over the summer, with Conrad and Bobby (who might not be the same when he comes back) fighting for the number 2 spot. Instead JD has gone for a youth back-up .... which has significantly weakened our GK/defence this season.
Unfortunately, this has also coincided with the fact that our previously strong defence suddenly appears to have imploded.
If we are still complaining about the GK situation later in the season - the accountability rests with the manager - who has actually had 2 years to assess what was needed.
EdwinstoweStag wrote:FarnieStag wrote:What will the boo boys do when/If Conrad is dropped and Bobby or other new keeper makes the inevitable league 2 goalie errors? The answer is they'll find another scapegoat. It's a good job the Radfords are chucking stupid amounts of cash in salaries as I don't think players would want to play in front of our fans otherwise.
Logan is a good keeper at this level. It was the defence in front of him that was poor yesterday
Yeh ... like you know just how much the club is paying salaries!
gazza1988 wrote:
Pilks gave away a throw in at every goal kick, pee poor distribution.
m1cksut wrote:gazza1988 wrote:
Pilks gave away a throw in at every goal kick, pee poor distribution.
Pilkington was lucky.
lucky that the outfield could score goals for fun, because he was a complete liability in goal, apparently he was a good shot-stopper.
i think he was awful at everything, and was riding his luck on the strength of his man ure connection.
wouldnt have paid him in washers, never mind threepenny bits!
FarnieStag wrote:EdwinstoweStag wrote:FarnieStag wrote:What will the boo boys do when/If Conrad is dropped and Bobby or other new keeper makes the inevitable league 2 goalie errors? The answer is they'll find another scapegoat. It's a good job the Radfords are chucking stupid amounts of cash in salaries as I don't think players would want to play in front of our fans otherwise.
Logan is a good keeper at this level. It was the defence in front of him that was poor yesterday
Yeh ... like you know just how much the club is paying salaries!
Wow.... the original poster doesn't think our players are at the top of the League 2 payscale? Do you really think the likes of Maynard come to Mansfield for any reason other than we're the highest payers?
adamstag wrote:All you had to do was look at the morecambe gk yesterday, commanded his box well, played quick and short from the back, claimed crosses well - you then had poor Conrad.
Return to Stagsnet Main Discussion Forum
Users browsing this forum: Elkesley Stag, Phill, Stoney, wayno cordiniho and 233 guests