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Re: The Gay Footballer

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:18 pm

spanishstag wrote:I know a few openly gay or lesbian people ,its an issue they dont feel the need to tell me ,they dont hide it but they know it doesn,t bother me I just think we are pushing things a little to far as far as kids are concerned


All depends on the manner and strength at which that education is aimed, my friend. If done properly it can be a very enlightening aspect.
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Re: The Gay Footballer

Postby Big yella » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:02 pm

Sedgwick wrote:
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Jimstag wrote:Actually 1 question I do have regarding this is in the changing room in that Phil Neville is not allowed in the women’s changing room for a set period and team talks held on the pitch for fairly obvious reasons, would some sort of regulation like this have to happen for an openly gay player?
It is OTT for me but at the same time it opens a whole minefield for me.


Rediciulous. Just because he's Gay, doesn't mean he cant share a changing room. Do you think just because a gay man is getting dressed next to other men, he'll fancy them or come onto them or something like that so they need to be segregated.. I just cant work out how you've even thought of that? let alone ask it as a genuine question. If you have a problem with a gay man in your changing room, then you're the one that needs taking out of that situation and educating.

Maybe im not quite understanding what you're getting at...


Gareth Thomas didn't get that sort of treatment did he? and you don't go into a gym with separate changing rooms... the comparison to Phil Neville doesn't translate, hes a man in a women's changing room, completely different.

His teammates and the public need to support him, so future gay players don't feel the need to hide and they can live happily the same as everyone else.

So what you are saying is that gay men and gay women can be trusted to control their sexual feelings in a dressing room but heterosexual men can’t, got you. Tell me exactly what would Phil Neville or any other bloke see in in a changing room he wouldn’t see on a Spanish beach whilst with his wife and kids. No I’m not anti gay, you just can’t have double standards.


Basic privacy there, not double standards.... it's the basic principle and idea of why female and male changing rooms exist in the world. The idea of needing a separate changing room, yes just the idea of it, for the one openly gay player.... you lot are why Mansfield is a backwards dump. :roll:

I'm not suggesting separate changing rooms, just that it is a double standard to say that a gay man won't sexually objectify another man just because they share a dressing room, but a heterosexual man will sexually objectify a woman when doing the same, and that sexual objectification is the reason separate rooms were introduced wasn't it?

Are you saying that only straight men can sexually objectify? Every gay man/woman I have known well enough to call a friend has objectified someone at some stage, and it hasn't mattered if that person was gay or straight. Just as I know I have gay women.

I've been on holiday with gay men, and also women who I wasn't in a relationship with, who saw what mattered not one jot. It "wasn't on offer" so that was that. I will openly welcome the first openly gay footballer, but having rules that basically say gay people can be trusted but straight people can't is having double standards.
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Re: The Gay Footballer

Postby Dan » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:10 pm

I've always told my son that there are some men who marry other men and some ladies who marry other ladies & he's accepted it. He's 10 now & we've had a letter about them doing sex education soon & again next year in year 6. I'm glad as it saves me a job :lol: :lol: One of his classmates has already asked his mum what a vibrator is so clearly they're talking about stuff in the playground :lol:

Next door to his mammar lives two ladies who have got children. When we were in Amsterdam recently 2 blokes got on the train & started proper snogging in front of us, he did a double take & looked at me & smiled. I think that was just a bit of embarrassment. Last week we went to Wembley to see P!nk in concert. During the concert a couple of rows behind us a lady got down on one knee and proposed to another lady who said yes. Word got round & everyone was clapping them and cheering. My son asked me what had happened & I said "Those two ladies up there have just got engaged to each other" & his response was "oh right". I think if that had been the first time he'd been 'exposed' (for want of a better word) to it I think his actions would've been different. But because for the past 2-3 years he's seen & been told that this happens, he was clearly used to it & didn't really care. On the way out we both congratulated them & they said what a lovely boy he was (his reaction may have surprised them, I don't know).
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Re: The Gay Footballer

Postby Gruff » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:06 am

I don't care what religion, race or sexuality anybody has... it's their life.

However, when somebody chooses to grow their hair and have a "top knot/man bun", they deserve to be single out, abused and humiliated.
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Re: The Gay Footballer

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:45 pm

Gruff wrote:I don't care what religion, race or sexuality anybody has... it's their life.

However, when somebody chooses to grow their hair and have a "top knot/man bun", they deserve to be single out, abused and humiliated.


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Re: The Gay Footballer

Postby shirestag » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:02 pm

Gruff wrote:I don't care what religion, race or sexuality anybody has... it's their life.

However, when somebody chooses to grow their hair and have a "top knot/man bun", they deserve to be single out, abused and humiliated.[/quot
EdwinstoweStag wrote:
Gruff wrote:I don't care what religion, race or sexuality anybody has... it's their life.

However, when somebody chooses to grow their hair and have a "top knot/man bun", they deserve to be single out, abused and humiliated.


Yep!


I third that :D
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Re: The Gay Footballer

Postby I am Spartacus » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:19 pm

shirestag wrote:
Gruff wrote:I don't care what religion, race or sexuality anybody has... it's their life.

However, when somebody chooses to grow their hair and have a "top knot/man bun", they deserve to be single out, abused and humiliated.[/quot
EdwinstoweStag wrote:
Gruff wrote:I don't care what religion, race or sexuality anybody has... it's their life.

However, when somebody chooses to grow their hair and have a "top knot/man bun", they deserve to be single out, abused and humiliated.


Yep!


I third that :D


I fourth that and aim that at ‘Malta Cabs’ who sits behind me in the West Stand and occasionally wears one!
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Re: The Gay Footballer

Postby I am Spartacus » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:32 pm

Gruff wrote:I don't care what religion, race or sexuality anybody has... it's their life.

However, when somebody chooses to grow their hair and have a "top knot/man bun", they deserve to be single out, abused and humiliated.


Did you manage to single out, abuse and humiliate the Alfreton midfielder who was sporting a top knot on Saturday?
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