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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby MTFCMAD » Thu May 16, 2019 6:25 pm

Sedgwick wrote:Cox would take care of the youth team. Think he'd do a good job and instill some great qualities in the young players.


I don’t see him with the sorta qualities to coach youth players.

This is the age where they menna be improving there’s technique, first touch and ability to play a pass under pressure not how to hoof the ball up top.
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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby bobbystagsfan » Thu May 16, 2019 7:13 pm

MTFCMAD wrote:
Sedgwick wrote:Cox would take care of the youth team. Think he'd do a good job and instill some great qualities in the young players.


I don’t see him with the sorta qualities to coach youth players.

This is the age where they menna be improving there’s technique, first touch and ability to play a pass under pressure not how to hoof the ball up top.



yeah because you can judge someone's coaching abilities from the style of football they played. some pretty harsh comments towards Cox here, most are unjustified.

none of us know what he would be like as a coach. if JD wanted to play a passing style then Cox (if he were to become a coach) would have to adapt to JD's requirements
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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby Number63 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:50 pm

I wonder if John Dempster reads our considered thoughts?

Any way best of luck.

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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby Sedgwick » Thu May 16, 2019 7:56 pm

MTFCMAD wrote:
Sedgwick wrote:Cox would take care of the youth team. Think he'd do a good job and instill some great qualities in the young players.


I don’t see him with the sorta qualities to coach youth players.

This is the age where they menna be improving there’s technique, first touch and ability to play a pass under pressure not how to hoof the ball up top.


In English please.

Style of play because he had raspberry players in league two doesn't mean he cant coach young players... he'd get the best out of them and get them ready to work hard.
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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby geoffhill » Thu May 16, 2019 9:07 pm

A leopard can't change his spots.I can remember when Cox insisted that marriott was not allowed to throw the ball out.He had to launch it up to the likes of Dyer and rhead to flick it on and hope we could pick up the second ball.Many thanks to Cox for what he achieved but we need to move on from his type of football.
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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby bobbystagsfan » Thu May 16, 2019 10:00 pm

geoffhill wrote:A leopard can't change his spots.I can remember when Cox insisted that marriott was not allowed to throw the ball out.He had to launch it up to the likes of Dyer and rhead to flick it on and hope we could pick up the second ball.Many thanks to Cox for what he achieved but we need to move on from his type of football.



I seem to remember the goal at Hereford was a big punt from mazza, headed on by rhead and finished by greeny.
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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby MTFCMAD » Fri May 17, 2019 12:34 am

Sedgwick wrote:
MTFCMAD wrote:
Sedgwick wrote:Cox would take care of the youth team. Think he'd do a good job and instill some great qualities in the young players.


I don’t see him with the sorta qualities to coach youth players.

This is the age where they menna be improving there’s technique, first touch and ability to play a pass under pressure not how to hoof the ball up top.


In English please.

Style of play because he had raspberry players in league two doesn't mean he cant coach young players... he'd get the best out of them and get them ready to work hard.


Style of play was hit it long in the conference too or was you too busy with DCFC back then to remember.

Under 18s need to be getting used to playing s they ball about under pressure building from the back not something that cox is renown for.

Cox is a good manager but not imo someone to develop youth talent....he’s never done it before so what makes you think he will be good at it ???
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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby chip63 » Fri May 17, 2019 2:11 am

geoffhill wrote:A leopard can't change his spots.I can remember when Cox insisted that marriott was not allowed to throw the ball out.He had to launch it up to the likes of Dyer and rhead to flick it on and hope we could pick up the second ball.Many thanks to Cox for what he achieved but we need to move on from his type of football.



If thats all you've got to score with then give it them quicly.
Who knows what Cox could of done with this squad.
The talent of defenders in non league made having a greeny and Rheady up front gave you the chance.
If the balls not in your half then they can't score. (Was the old saying) nowadays it's if we've got it in our half they won't score.
Then you have the Leicester way of you have it for 80% of the game and we counter attack and win the prem.
Or the Newcastle way of you score 3 and we score 4.
I think we are so close to being top contenders and it's letting the players be who they are.
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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby Amber Andy » Fri May 17, 2019 6:18 am

chip63 wrote:
geoffhill wrote:A leopard can't change his spots.I can remember when Cox insisted that marriott was not allowed to throw the ball out.He had to launch it up to the likes of Dyer and rhead to flick it on and hope we could pick up the second ball.Many thanks to Cox for what he achieved but we need to move on from his type of football.



If thats all you've got to score with then give it them quicly.
Who knows what Cox could of done with this squad.
The talent of defenders in non league made having a greeny and Rheady up front gave you the chance.
If the balls not in your half then they can't score. (Was the old saying) nowadays it's if we've got it in our half they won't score.
Then you have the Leicester way of you have it for 80% of the game and we counter attack and win the prem.
Or the Newcastle way of you score 3 and we score 4.
I think we are so close to being top contenders and it's letting the players be who they are.
I will always be grateful for PC for gaining promotion out of non league, but he wouldn't have done anything with this squad. Sam Clucas was one of the most talented footballer's we've had in years but was never used to his potential under PC's management.

PC achieved for us in non league but didn't achieve much after that with other non league clubs.

We need someone who has achieved at lower league level who has contacts and has the ability to guide JD.
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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Fri May 17, 2019 7:25 am

Amber Andy wrote:
chip63 wrote:
geoffhill wrote:A leopard can't change his spots.I can remember when Cox insisted that marriott was not allowed to throw the ball out.He had to launch it up to the likes of Dyer and rhead to flick it on and hope we could pick up the second ball.Many thanks to Cox for what he achieved but we need to move on from his type of football.



If thats all you've got to score with then give it them quicly.
Who knows what Cox could of done with this squad.
The talent of defenders in non league made having a greeny and Rheady up front gave you the chance.
If the balls not in your half then they can't score. (Was the old saying) nowadays it's if we've got it in our half they won't score.
Then you have the Leicester way of you have it for 80% of the game and we counter attack and win the prem.
Or the Newcastle way of you score 3 and we score 4.
I think we are so close to being top contenders and it's letting the players be who they are.
I will always be grateful for PC for gaining promotion out of non league, but he wouldn't have done anything with this squad. Sam Clucas was one of the most talented footballer's we've had in years but was never used to his potential under PC's management.

PC achieved for us in non league but didn't achieve much after that with other non league clubs.

We need someone who has achieved at lower league level who has contacts and has the ability to guide JD.


There’s plenty on here that know ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING about the game. Hands up if you want the job.
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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby ParisStag » Fri May 17, 2019 7:35 am

I'd be more than happy for Cox to have role at the club again. Nothing against him whatsoever.
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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby Sedgwick » Fri May 17, 2019 8:59 am

MTFCMAD wrote:
Sedgwick wrote:
MTFCMAD wrote:
Sedgwick wrote:Cox would take care of the youth team. Think he'd do a good job and instill some great qualities in the young players.


I don’t see him with the sorta qualities to coach youth players.

This is the age where they menna be improving there’s technique, first touch and ability to play a pass under pressure not how to hoof the ball up top.


In English please.

Style of play because he had raspberry players in league two doesn't mean he cant coach young players... he'd get the best out of them and get them ready to work hard.


Style of play was hit it long in the conference too or was you too busy with DCFC back then to remember.

Under 18s need to be getting used to playing s they ball about under pressure building from the back not something that cox is renown for.

Cox is a good manager but not imo someone to develop youth talent....he’s never done it before so what makes you think he will be good at it ???


You've got actual problems. Talk about obsessed.
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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby stagsfan6493 » Fri May 17, 2019 9:03 am

Amber Andy wrote:
chip63 wrote:
geoffhill wrote:A leopard can't change his spots.I can remember when Cox insisted that marriott was not allowed to throw the ball out.He had to launch it up to the likes of Dyer and rhead to flick it on and hope we could pick up the second ball.Many thanks to Cox for what he achieved but we need to move on from his type of football.



If thats all you've got to score with then give it them quicly.
Who knows what Cox could of done with this squad.
The talent of defenders in non league made having a greeny and Rheady up front gave you the chance.
If the balls not in your half then they can't score. (Was the old saying) nowadays it's if we've got it in our half they won't score.
Then you have the Leicester way of you have it for 80% of the game and we counter attack and win the prem.
Or the Newcastle way of you score 3 and we score 4.
I think we are so close to being top contenders and it's letting the players be who they are.
I will always be grateful for PC for gaining promotion out of non league, but he wouldn't have done anything with this squad. Sam Clucas was one of the most talented footballer's we've had in years but was never used to his potential under PC's management.

PC achieved for us in non league but didn't achieve much after that with other non league clubs.

We need someone who has achieved at lower league level who has contacts and has the ability to guide JD.

Cox would have achieved as much as DF with this squad - league 2 football next season.
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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby Amber Andy » Fri May 17, 2019 10:31 am

stagsfan6493 wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
chip63 wrote:
geoffhill wrote:A leopard can't change his spots.I can remember when Cox insisted that marriott was not allowed to throw the ball out.He had to launch it up to the likes of Dyer and rhead to flick it on and hope we could pick up the second ball.Many thanks to Cox for what he achieved but we need to move on from his type of football.



If thats all you've got to score with then give it them quicly.
Who knows what Cox could of done with this squad.
The talent of defenders in non league made having a greeny and Rheady up front gave you the chance.
If the balls not in your half then they can't score. (Was the old saying) nowadays it's if we've got it in our half they won't score.
Then you have the Leicester way of you have it for 80% of the game and we counter attack and win the prem.
Or the Newcastle way of you score 3 and we score 4.
I think we are so close to being top contenders and it's letting the players be who they are.
I will always be grateful for PC for gaining promotion out of non league, but he wouldn't have done anything with this squad. Sam Clucas was one of the most talented footballer's we've had in years but was never used to his potential under PC's management.

PC achieved for us in non league but didn't achieve much after that with other non league clubs.

We need someone who has achieved at lower league level who has contacts and has the ability to guide JD.

Cox would have achieved as much as DF with this squad - league 2 football next season.

Depends what you mean by achievement I suppose.
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Re: Congratulations John Dempster

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Sun May 19, 2019 10:28 am

stagsfan6493 wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
chip63 wrote:
geoffhill wrote:A leopard can't change his spots.I can remember when Cox insisted that marriott was not allowed to throw the ball out.He had to launch it up to the likes of Dyer and rhead to flick it on and hope we could pick up the second ball.Many thanks to Cox for what he achieved but we need to move on from his type of football.



If thats all you've got to score with then give it them quicly.
Who knows what Cox could of done with this squad.
The talent of defenders in non league made having a greeny and Rheady up front gave you the chance.
If the balls not in your half then they can't score. (Was the old saying) nowadays it's if we've got it in our half they won't score.
Then you have the Leicester way of you have it for 80% of the game and we counter attack and win the prem.
Or the Newcastle way of you score 3 and we score 4.
I think we are so close to being top contenders and it's letting the players be who they are.
I will always be grateful for PC for gaining promotion out of non league, but he wouldn't have done anything with this squad. Sam Clucas was one of the most talented footballer's we've had in years but was never used to his potential under PC's management.

PC achieved for us in non league but didn't achieve much after that with other non league clubs.

We need someone who has achieved at lower league level who has contacts and has the ability to guide JD.

Cox would have achieved as much as DF with this squad - league 2 football next season.



No chance, imo bud. Cox was hoofball & we were less of an aerial threat up front than a paraplegic umpalumpa
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