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Re: Our ground

Postby The One » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:32 pm

Vice President wrote:
Trenam wrote:Build the hotel ,and add sections to north and south stands so it looks like a continuous ground ,if and when we progress up the leagues, then build a three tier stand to join up to the filled in corners suggested. 1946/47 stag


I think that a 'four sided ground' is far more important than a hotel, adding sections to the corners, or adding additional tiers.
The ground is only a '3/4 ground' at the moment. Ignoring that missing 1/4 and adding to the other 3/4 will make it even more unbalanced.

99% of football grounds, irrespective of their status, or wherever in the world ..... have 4 sides.


A hotel would generate income for a stand . a stand would not generate income for a hotel.
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Re: Our ground

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:36 pm

Sneag wrote:Or stick the scoreboard in a skip.


Bury's scoreboard has disappeared (probably repossessed or seized by bailiffs).
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Re: Our ground

Postby Dave Wayne » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:03 pm

cornish stag wrote:Why couldn't we do similar to Exeter's marsh Kia stand? Holds about a thousand standing away fans, made of steel steps and could easily be modified if needed in the future.
This stand was only renovated last year, so I assume it's still ok to build new standing terraces?

That was renovation of an existing terrace.
Our ground is officially an 'all seater' ground so the rules do not allow us to build a standing terrace.
Also, as I have said on many similar threads, building a terrace would not increase the average matchday attendance. Therefore, we would basically be spending money to reduce our income as people who currently buy seating tickets would move over to the terrace and pay a lower admission.
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Re: Our ground

Postby Conker » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:49 pm

Dave Wayne wrote:
cornish stag wrote:Why couldn't we do similar to Exeter's marsh Kia stand? Holds about a thousand standing away fans, made of steel steps and could easily be modified if needed in the future.
This stand was only renovated last year, so I assume it's still ok to build new standing terraces?

That was renovation of an existing terrace.
Our ground is officially an 'all seater' ground so the rules do not allow us to build a standing terrace.
Also, as I have said on many similar threads, building a terrace would not increase the average matchday attendance. Therefore, we would basically be spending money to reduce our income as people who currently buy seating tickets would move over to the terrace and pay a lower admission.


I’ve heard it’s do-able (regarding building a standing stand) and it’s something the Radfords have mentioned too.
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Re: Our ground

Postby SINA STAG » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:05 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:
Sneag wrote:Or stick the scoreboard in a skip.


Bury's scoreboard has disappeared (probably repossessed or seized by bailiffs).




I've heard it's been purchased over a drink or two n now being erected in the middle of the Bishop Street Stand
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Re: Our ground

Postby sunray » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:40 pm

Sell the ground for housing & hotel and build a new one with up to date facilities, score board and an oval stadium on the ring road or at Pleasley. Then everyone would be happy
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Re: Our ground

Postby The One » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:46 pm

sunray wrote:Sell the ground for housing & hotel and build a new one with up to date facilities, score board and an oval stadium on the ring road or at Pleasley. Then everyone would be happy


The Covenant on ground would not permit this.
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Re: Our ground

Postby Martin Shaw » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:49 pm

sunray wrote:Sell the ground for housing & hotel and build a new one with up to date facilities, score board and an oval stadium on the ring road or at Pleasley. Then everyone would be happy

speak for yourself. You can't buy history.
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Re: Our ground

Postby yorkshire stag » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:50 pm

Filed mill forever lol
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Re: Our ground

Postby I am Spartacus » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:52 pm

sunray wrote:Sell the ground for housing & hotel and build a new one with up to date facilities, score board and an oval stadium on the ring road or at Pleasley. Then everyone would be happy


You want to be a fan of a soulless bowl next to a motorway? Then jog on to Scunthorpe, Colchester etc!

Our ground is perfectly placed - not too far from the town centre and smack bang in the middle of our hearts!!

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Re: Our ground

Postby Amber Andy » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:02 pm

Conker wrote:
Dave Wayne wrote:
cornish stag wrote:Why couldn't we do similar to Exeter's marsh Kia stand? Holds about a thousand standing away fans, made of steel steps and could easily be modified if needed in the future.
This stand was only renovated last year, so I assume it's still ok to build new standing terraces?

That was renovation of an existing terrace.
Our ground is officially an 'all seater' ground so the rules do not allow us to build a standing terrace.
Also, as I have said on many similar threads, building a terrace would not increase the average matchday attendance. Therefore, we would basically be spending money to reduce our income as people who currently buy seating tickets would move over to the terrace and pay a lower admission.


I’ve heard it’s do-able (regarding building a standing stand) and it’s something the Radfords have mentioned too.
Total waste of money whilst we are league 2.

Any available money should be used on the first team squad.
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Re: Our ground

Postby Vice President » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:33 pm

We tried that for the last 2 years and are still in league 2 - we could have built a nice new stand instead!
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Re: Our ground

Postby The One » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:41 pm

Vice President wrote:We tried that for the last 2 years and are still in league 2 - we could have built a nice new stand instead!


Get over it
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Re: Our ground

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:53 am

SINA STAG wrote:
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:
Sneag wrote:Or stick the scoreboard in a skip.


Bury's scoreboard has disappeared (probably repossessed or seized by bailiffs).




I've heard it's been purchased over a drink or two n now being erected in the middle of the Bishop Street Stand


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Our ground

Postby I am Spartacus » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:02 pm

sunray wrote:Sell the ground for housing & hotel and build a new one with up to date facilities, score board and an oval stadium on the ring road or at Pleasley. Then everyone would be happy


After the announcements from Coventry City and the EFL regarding where the Sky Blues will be playing next season, speak to any Coventry fan about moving to a shiny new ground with good motorway links then ask them why they aren’t happy.

Then visit the dentist to have your teeth put back in.

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Re: Our ground

Postby Vice President » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:34 pm

The One wrote:
Vice President wrote:We tried that for the last 2 years and are still in league 2 - we could have built a nice new stand instead!


Get over it


Get over what exactly?
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Re: Our ground

Postby The One » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:07 am

Vice President wrote:
The One wrote:
Vice President wrote:We tried that for the last 2 years and are still in league 2 - we could have built a nice new stand instead!


Get over it


Get over what exactly?


The obcession over a stand and expense when it is non priority.
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Re: Our ground

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:14 am

The One wrote:
Vice President wrote:
The One wrote:
Vice President wrote:We tried that for the last 2 years and are still in league 2 - we could have built a nice new stand instead!


Get over it


Get over what exactly?


The obcession over a stand and expense when it is non priority.
Exactly. It would be an expensive luxury whatever it cost.
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Re: Our ground

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:35 am

Amber Andy wrote:
The One wrote:
Vice President wrote:
The One wrote:
Vice President wrote:We tried that for the last 2 years and are still in league 2 - we could have built a nice new stand instead!


Get over it


Get over what exactly?


The obcession over a stand and expense when it is non priority.
Exactly. It would be an expensive luxury whatever it cost.


Err ..... May I reiterate my lack of respect for the scoreboard?
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Re: Our ground

Postby Spiritater » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:13 am

VP'll be one of these folk who love to keep up with the Jones's no matter what the cost.
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Re: Our ground

Postby Vice President » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:43 am

Ha ha - Naturally I'm obsessed about replacing the BS stand. (I think someone once suggested that I should be part of the unveiling ceremony! :lol: )
That said - JR said he wants to build both a new stand and a hotel in the next few years (with the stand winning the priority vote). So hopefully it will happen at some stage - and I will help cut the ribbon! ;)
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Re: Our ground

Postby SINA STAG » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:48 am

Vice President wrote:Ha ha - Naturally I'm obsessed about replacing the BS stand. (I think someone once suggested that I should be part of the unveiling ceremony! :lol: )
That said - JR said he wants to build both a new stand and a hotel in the next few years (with the stand winning the priority vote). So hopefully it will happen at some stage - and I will help cut the ribbon! ;)



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Re: Our ground

Postby sunray » Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:52 am

Any idea when they are going to start building the new hotel. The initial planning appears to have been granted. Is this down to detailed planning/building regs, Zeal Projects, JR or HIlton hotels.

There a lot of jobs for Mansfield at stake both in the building stage and when the hotel opens.
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Re: Our ground

Postby Rob » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:00 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
The One wrote:
Vice President wrote:
The One wrote:
Vice President wrote:We tried that for the last 2 years and are still in league 2 - we could have built a nice new stand instead!


Get over it


Get over what exactly?


The obcession over a stand and expense when it is non priority.
Exactly. It would be an expensive luxury whatever it cost.


Looks like you are going to have to get used to the idea.

I think it is fantastic that the owners are going to rebuild it, the ground is an eyesore and it also detracts from the atmosphere. Definitely not a luxury to have a stadium with 4 sides!!!
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Re: Our ground

Postby mousemousemouse » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:17 pm

There;'s an interview with the chairman and he's said that he:

The chairman also provided the latest updates on the Bishop Street Stand, and the plans to build a Hampton-by-Hilton Hotel on site at One Call Stadium.

“We have said that there is no point in developing Bishop Street until we get the numbers in the stands that require us to develop it,” he added.

“We’re getting close to it [having the attendances to develop]. If we got into League One [last season], we’d be redeveloping it straight away.

“Our ambitions at the moment and my resources are being put into getting promotion. Then, once we’ve got promoted, the stand will be done and the hotel will be done.


Sensible and reasonable. There's an idea that we should just throw silly money at things like a stand. We don't have the numbers
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