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Re: Retained List

Postby WVStag » Thu May 16, 2019 10:05 am

I can respect that football is a game of opinions and that everyone's interpretation of the retained list will be different. But I can't for the life of me understand how people think it's all red and rosey just because the retained list says exactly what we knew before, that the majority of players are under contract. Players who are under contract can still leave for a fee.

As one poster has already said, a big indicator of the strength of the budget/pull of the manager will be measured in the replacement for Walker and CJ if he ends up going as well.
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Re: Retained List

Postby kcassellsfootygenius » Thu May 16, 2019 10:18 am

So with current personnel and I know CJ will probably go but if we started with a fully fit squad tomorrow to optimise Hamilton and Khan you could go

Olejnik

White Pearce Sweeney / Preston Benning

Bishop Tomlinson

McDonald Khan Hamilton

Rose / Davies

If you can make a Danny Hylton type that front man all the better but if that was our starting line up I would have no complaint.

Don't see the big budget or crisis flap. Long way to go until August but we need to give it a bit of time.
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Re: Retained List

Postby pemill » Thu May 16, 2019 11:44 am

kcassellsfootygenius wrote:So with current personnel and I know CJ will probably go but if we started with a fully fit squad tomorrow to optimise Hamilton and Khan you could go

Olejnik

White Pearce Sweeney / Preston Benning

Bishop Tomlinson

McDonald Khan Hamilton

Rose / Davies

If you can make a Danny Hylton type that front man all the better but if that was our starting line up I would have no complaint.

Don't see the big budget or crisis flap. Long way to go until August but we need to give it a bit of time.


Sorry to say we won't be challenging for anything with that strike force.
Rose isn't a goal scorer, he's proven that. Don't know enough about Davies but he doesn't seem a 20+ striker from the little I have seen of him.
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Re: Retained List

Postby MTFCMusings » Thu May 16, 2019 11:51 am

pemill wrote:
kcassellsfootygenius wrote:So with current personnel and I know CJ will probably go but if we started with a fully fit squad tomorrow to optimise Hamilton and Khan you could go

Olejnik

White Pearce Sweeney / Preston Benning

Bishop Tomlinson

McDonald Khan Hamilton

Rose / Davies

If you can make a Danny Hylton type that front man all the better but if that was our starting line up I would have no complaint.

Don't see the big budget or crisis flap. Long way to go until August but we need to give it a bit of time.


Sorry to say we won't be challenging for anything with that strike force.
Rose isn't a goal scorer, he's proven that. Don't know enough about Davies but he doesn't seem a 20+ striker from the little I have seen of him.


Not necessarily needed, Lincoln didn't have one.
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Re: Retained List

Postby pemill » Thu May 16, 2019 11:52 am

It's a shame Ajose is so badly down on confidence, he made things happen up front and got in some unselfish assists.

Always liked Hemmings 14 goals and 3 assists in a bottom 2, relegated, now non-league team, shower of raspberry like Counteh.

Obviously there's others out there out of contract
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Re: Retained List

Postby daddycool » Thu May 16, 2019 12:49 pm

I would take Hemmings
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Re: Retained List

Postby marker_mtfc95 » Thu May 16, 2019 12:57 pm

Me too.
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Re: Retained List

Postby bobbystagsfan » Thu May 16, 2019 1:07 pm

daddycool wrote:I would take Hemmings



I'll pass. it took him about 8 good chances for him to bag one :lol:

he also missed a lot of sitters. not a terrible player, but I'd go for someone else
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Re: Retained List

Postby kyle b » Thu May 16, 2019 1:16 pm

Heard flitcroft wanted hemmings. Dodged a bullet there
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Re: Retained List

Postby Captain Cunno » Thu May 16, 2019 1:22 pm

Whatever fee we get for CJ must without doubt go on 2 forwards

Rowe at Fylde
Hylton at Luton
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Re: Retained List

Postby BH_Stag » Thu May 16, 2019 1:26 pm

Captain Cunno wrote:Whatever fee we get for CJ must without doubt go on 2 forwards

Rowe at Fylde
Hylton at Luton


Agree, any fee’s have to be spent on the strikers. We’ve got 40 goals to replace with Walker and probably CJ leaving. Would absolutely love to get Danny Hylton, he’s exactly what you need at this level. Whether we can attract him to the club or not is a different matter, would take big money.
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Re: Retained List

Postby cassellswasmagic » Thu May 16, 2019 2:37 pm

Couldn’t agree more. It’s good strikers that get you out of the lower divisions!!!
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Re: Retained List

Postby Spiritater » Thu May 16, 2019 2:38 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
daddycool wrote:I would take Hemmings



I'll pass. it took him about 8 good chances for him to bag one :lol:

he also missed a lot of sitters. not a terrible player, but I'd go for someone else


To have a strikeforce with that extra lethality needed to progress the club does not involve signing Hemmings. Too many chances needed to score. I'm afraid if he'd have been leading our line this season we'd have struggled to even make the playoffs.
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Re: Retained List

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Thu May 16, 2019 2:50 pm

Reuben Reid is out of contract/released and could make a good second striker. I think we would still need a main man but Rueben is always worth a goal or penalty.
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Re: Retained List

Postby Conker » Thu May 16, 2019 2:55 pm

I think Cullen is worth a go, Bradford bound maybe.
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Re: Retained List

Postby Sedgwick » Thu May 16, 2019 8:39 pm

Captain Cunno wrote:Whatever fee we get for CJ must without doubt go on 2 forwards

Rowe at Fylde
Hylton at Luton


Rowe looked very non league in the playoffs.. don't know how he bags so many goals

Hylton is on the cards according to the twitter know it all
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Re: Retained List

Postby Amber Andy » Thu May 16, 2019 8:58 pm

Captain Cunno wrote:Whatever fee we get for CJ must without doubt go on 2 forwards

Rowe at Fylde
Hylton at Luton

I agree but not Rowe.
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Re: Retained List

Postby bobbystagsfan » Thu May 16, 2019 8:59 pm

Sedgwick wrote:
Captain Cunno wrote:Whatever fee we get for CJ must without doubt go on 2 forwards

Rowe at Fylde
Hylton at Luton


Rowe looked very non league in the playoffs.. don't know how he bags so many goals

Hylton is on the cards according to the twitter know it all



we've taken punts on non league strikers in Palmer, Yussuf, Sterling-James and none of them have come up any good. I would hope we would try to sign a proven league goalscorer like hylton.
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Re: Retained List

Postby yorkshire stag » Thu May 16, 2019 9:10 pm

Hylton is a gun for hire, whoever pays the most he will sign

the pantomime villain every opposition fan loves to hate as he smashes the winning goal from a dodgy penalty foul lol
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Re: Retained List

Postby bobbystagsfan » Thu May 16, 2019 9:15 pm

yorkshire stag wrote:Hylton is a gun for hire, whoever pays the most he will sign

the pantomime villain every opposition fan loves to hate as he smashes the winning goal from a dodgy penalty foul lol



I would still take him. You love him when he's yours, hate him when he's against you.

Has scored loads of goals at this level and has been promoted from this level. There'll be loads of teams trying to get his signature.
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Re: Retained List

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Thu May 16, 2019 10:10 pm

I see Iyrwah Gooden is another U21 to be released. He previously played for Ipswich and Colchester.
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Re: Retained List

Postby MTFCMusings » Thu May 16, 2019 10:30 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:I see Iyrwah Gooden is another U21 to be released. He previously played for Ipswich and Colchester.


Where are you finding this Tippy?

The club are useless on informing us of youth and backroom staff departures.
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Re: Retained List

Postby marker_mtfc95 » Thu May 16, 2019 10:31 pm

All on Twitter mate.
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Re: Retained List

Postby stagmanrob » Thu May 16, 2019 11:16 pm

Chander Lear wrote:
stagmanrob wrote:Surprised Hakeem got released, with JD having worked with him for 4 seasons.
You'd expect a youth teamer having been in and around the first team for as long as he has now would have had more of a chance.


Thats probably the point. They rate blake higher than hakeem (different positions i know), and Hakeem hadnt progressed enough during his loan stints.

He was always going this season

What's happening with Nyle Blake? He's not named on the list. Anyone know?
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Re: Retained List

Postby MTFCMAD » Thu May 16, 2019 11:30 pm

The clubs coverage of the under 21 and 18s is bordering on useless.

The youth team profiles on the main website won’t be updated for another five months and hardly any of them have a bio about them.

Even timi Elsnik and Calum Butcher still play for us apparently.

Tbh the main websites a joke, not very organised and you can tell it’s not taken seriously at the club.
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