Conker wrote:This is extremely worrying, because he’s refusing to admit it was a ridiculous decision despite the fact Macca was clearly caught out of position several times, hence why he moved Macca central himself during the game.
Not to mention the fact that a promotion decider is not exactly a good time to put a player in a brand new position, RM and RWB are two very different things. How many times did they pinpoint the right side was our weakest point in the first half? They literally kept chipping it over a hopeless Macca.
Why can’t he just own up, and Chadman, what do you think to all these points I have made?
Chadman wrote:Conker wrote:This is extremely worrying, because he’s refusing to admit it was a ridiculous decision despite the fact Macca was clearly caught out of position several times, hence why he moved Macca central himself during the game.
Not to mention the fact that a promotion decider is not exactly a good time to put a player in a brand new position, RM and RWB are two very different things. How many times did they pinpoint the right side was our weakest point in the first half? They literally kept chipping it over a hopeless Macca.
Why can’t he just own up, and Chadman, what do you think to all these points I have made?
I don't think it was ridiculous and he was no worse than anyone else first half.
I would assume they have been trying this out in training and Macca has appeared to be capable of doing the job being asked of him.
There are many different types of midfielders and Macca is the perfect sort to be able to cope with being right wing back as he tackles well, is tenacious and chases back as well as being very used to being in a wide role.
Whether it would work better on another occasion we will have to see. But everyone had been criticising Jones, who had dropped off a bit, and with no White available I think it was a valid risk - if it was even seen as a risk with what he was doing in full-blooded training.
I would not be surprised to see him there again in the semis unless Jones has made his point in training.
I don't think it was a "stupid decision". No surprises there then. Your opinion of DF are different ends of the scale to mine. I like to support him. You tend to criticise him at every opportunity. Fair enough that's your prerogative.Conker wrote:Amber Andy wrote:Presumably DF didn't just decide on the day to play Macca at wingback. He would have been tried out in the training sessions leading up to the game.
I would have played Will Atkinson in that position rather than Macca. But I don't presume my knowledge to be anywhere near as good as DF's, unlike others on here.
It was a stupid decision why not just say it? Look he’s a L2 manager for a reason, mistakes are going to happen.
The problem is his arrogance by refusing to admit it, despite moving him centrally during the game. He even said he did well in the first half, he was tortured for the entirety of it - just like us fans in the stands.
Amber Andy wrote:I don't think it was a "stupid decision". No surprises there then. Your opinion of DF are different ends of the scale to mine. I like to support him. You tend to criticise him at every opportunity. Fair enough that's your prerogative.Conker wrote:Amber Andy wrote:Presumably DF didn't just decide on the day to play Macca at wingback. He would have been tried out in the training sessions leading up to the game.
I would have played Will Atkinson in that position rather than Macca. But I don't presume my knowledge to be anywhere near as good as DF's, unlike others on here.
It was a stupid decision why not just say it? Look he’s a L2 manager for a reason, mistakes are going to happen.
The problem is his arrogance by refusing to admit it, despite moving him centrally during the game. He even said he did well in the first half, he was tortured for the entirety of it - just like us fans in the stands.
Don't forget Macca is an experienced player. In fact the "Scottish manager" said should be playing in the Championship. Should he have played at right wing back ? Maybe not. Stupid decision ? No.
Conker wrote:Amber Andy wrote:I don't think it was a "stupid decision". No surprises there then. Your opinion of DF are different ends of the scale to mine. I like to support him. You tend to criticise him at every opportunity. Fair enough that's your prerogative.Conker wrote:Amber Andy wrote:Presumably DF didn't just decide on the day to play Macca at wingback. He would have been tried out in the training sessions leading up to the game.
I would have played Will Atkinson in that position rather than Macca. But I don't presume my knowledge to be anywhere near as good as DF's, unlike others on here.
It was a stupid decision why not just say it? Look he’s a L2 manager for a reason, mistakes are going to happen.
The problem is his arrogance by refusing to admit it, despite moving him centrally during the game. He even said he did well in the first half, he was tortured for the entirety of it - just like us fans in the stands.
Don't forget Macca is an experienced player. In fact the "Scottish manager" said should be playing in the Championship. Should he have played at right wing back ? Maybe not. Stupid decision ? No.
That’s so unfair mate, like you literally have no idea what you are talking about, I’ve spent all day defending him regarding improving players, ie CJ, Pearce, Mellis etc.
I’ll criticise him when I think he’s raspberried up, and I’ll stick up for what he’s done well, I’ve supported him throughout the season and for you to suggest otherwise is a poor attempt at getting out of a decent debate or just a awful amount of ignorance.
Amber Andy wrote:Conker wrote:Amber Andy wrote:I don't think it was a "stupid decision". No surprises there then. Your opinion of DF are different ends of the scale to mine. I like to support him. You tend to criticise him at every opportunity. Fair enough that's your prerogative.Conker wrote:Amber Andy wrote:Presumably DF didn't just decide on the day to play Macca at wingback. He would have been tried out in the training sessions leading up to the game.
I would have played Will Atkinson in that position rather than Macca. But I don't presume my knowledge to be anywhere near as good as DF's, unlike others on here.
It was a stupid decision why not just say it? Look he’s a L2 manager for a reason, mistakes are going to happen.
The problem is his arrogance by refusing to admit it, despite moving him centrally during the game. He even said he did well in the first half, he was tortured for the entirety of it - just like us fans in the stands.
Don't forget Macca is an experienced player. In fact the "Scottish manager" said should be playing in the Championship. Should he have played at right wing back ? Maybe not. Stupid decision ? No.
That’s so unfair mate, like you literally have no idea what you are talking about, I’ve spent all day defending him regarding improving players, ie CJ, Pearce, Mellis etc.
I’ll criticise him when I think he’s raspberried up, and I’ll stick up for what he’s done well, I’ve supported him throughout the season and for you to suggest otherwise is a poor attempt at getting out of a decent debate or just a awful amount of ignorance.
If that's the case I apologise Conker. Having supported the Stags for over 50 yearsI think I pretty much know what I'm talking about.
part time pete wrote:Look, we didn't lose the game because Macca played at RWB. We lost the game because we didn't have a player to head away an in swinging right wing corner.
Once Turner came on we had that player on the pitch who headed away the vast majority of crosses that came into the box.
Vice President wrote:We have 4 good centre backs, but only one good right back (who is injured). DF's ultimate problem is that his squad never had any decent back up for both full backs. If Benning had have been injured as well as White, we would have had no cover at all for the full backs.
I can't help thinking that the obsession with playing 3 central defenders has caused this issue. I am a 4-4-2 man myself.
part time pete wrote:Look, we didn't lose the game because Macca played at RWB. We lost the game because we didn't have a player to head away an in swinging right wing corner.
Once Turner came on we had that player on the pitch who headed away the vast majority of crosses that came into the box.
Vice President wrote:We have 4 good centre backs, but only one good right back (who is injured). DF's ultimate problem is that his squad never had any decent back up for both full backs. If Benning had have been injured as well as White, we would have had no cover at all for the full backs.
I can't help thinking that the obsession with playing 3 central defenders has caused this issue. I am a 4-4-2 man myself.
arsene wengers coat wrote:The thing is Atkinson and Jones don't get forward. Macca was a gamble bit it was an error in hindsight.
Son Of Sherwood wrote:Flitcroft's modus operandi was the reason behind "that player playing in that position" and that's something he needs to work on (imo).
He has his favourites, they play in front of all other possible selections and, if needs be, he shoehorns them in the team and the teams performance will either improve or diminish.
The old round peg in a square hole strategy.
Come tomorrow, he needs to play two banks of four and say to Newport "Play through us if you can".
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