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Hypothetical Question

Postby AlanStag » Sat May 04, 2019 7:26 pm

If after the Morcambe game with 3 games to go, do you think Steve Evans as manager would have seen it over the line?

I don't think deep down anyone could say the answer would not be yes, however much we loathe him.

Shows really how little progress we've made under DF, IMO we're no better off from where we were when he came through the door where we should have made the play offs at a minimum.
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby MTFCMAD » Sat May 04, 2019 7:31 pm

Another one.......which player would you rather have.

Time Elsnik or Jorge Grant ?

That January transfer window ruined us.
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby Jamie » Sat May 04, 2019 7:31 pm

Oh fgs. Sat here now I would sooner have had anyone else in charge today but its hypothetical and pointless raspberrys.

Not sure how our best season for 14 odd years is no progress either.
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby Im not the real OND » Sat May 04, 2019 7:32 pm

We finished fourth. We weren’t fourth when fatty left and Flitcroft came in. That suggests we’re better off.
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby jpstags » Sat May 04, 2019 7:32 pm

AlanStag wrote:If after the Morcambe game with 3 games to go, do you think Steve Evans as manager would have seen it over the line?

I don't think deep down anyone could say the answer would not be yes, however much we loathe him.

Shows really how little progress we've made under DF, IMO we're no better off from where we were when he came through the door where we should have made the play offs at a minimum.


I was thinking just this, we have gone backwards,
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby Im not the real OND » Sat May 04, 2019 7:33 pm

jpstags wrote:
AlanStag wrote:If after the Morcambe game with 3 games to go, do you think Steve Evans as manager would have seen it over the line?

I don't think deep down anyone could say the answer would not be yes, however much we loathe him.

Shows really how little progress we've made under DF, IMO we're no better off from where we were when he came through the door where we should have made the play offs at a minimum.


I was thinking just this, we have gone backwards,


Backwards up the league?
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sat May 04, 2019 7:33 pm

AlanStag wrote:If after the Morcambe game with 3 games to go, do you think Steve Evans as manager would have seen it over the line?

I don't think deep down anyone could say the answer would not be yes, however much we loathe him.

Shows really how little progress we've made under DF, IMO we're no better off from where we were when he came through the door where we should have made the play offs at a minimum.


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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby jpstags » Sat May 04, 2019 7:33 pm

Im not the real OND wrote:We finished fourth. We weren’t fourth when fatty left and Flitcroft came in. That suggests we’re better off.


We were fourth when he left and flying .
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby adamstag » Sat May 04, 2019 7:34 pm

We choked. That’s what we did

We ultimately needed 1 point out of 9 at the business end of the season and couldn’t manage that.

And folk say we aren’t bottle jobs
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby Jamie » Sat May 04, 2019 7:35 pm

Im not the real OND wrote:We finished fourth. We weren’t fourth when fatty left and Flitcroft came in. That suggests we’re better off.


Actually we were 4th when he left... with a game in hand for 3rd.

He didn't finish that season though. This is our best finish for years.
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby Im not the real OND » Sat May 04, 2019 7:38 pm

I stand corrected.
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby AlanStag » Sat May 04, 2019 7:51 pm

Jamie wrote:Oh fgs. Sat here now I would sooner have had anyone else in charge today but its hypothetical and pointless raspberrys.

Not sure how our best season for 14 odd years is no progress either.

It does provide some perspective on Flitcroft’s performance though doesn’t it?

In reality the reason most Stags hate Evans is because he didn’t see the job through. Suggesting if he stayed our fortunes may have been different, what we know for definite is DF couldn’t see that one over the line either.
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby Dave Wayne » Sat May 04, 2019 9:44 pm

MTFCMAD wrote:Another one.......which player would you rather have.

Time Elsnik or Jorge Grant ?

That January transfer window ruined us.

And yet funnily enough, when 'whipping boy' Grant came on today we looked more like scoring in those last 20 minutes than we had in the previous 70 !!
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby Jamie » Sat May 04, 2019 10:21 pm

Against a team happy to sit back and let him try and fail to deliver any quality...
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby MTFCMAD » Sat May 04, 2019 10:40 pm

Dave Wayne wrote:
MTFCMAD wrote:Another one.......which player would you rather have.

Time Elsnik or Jorge Grant ?

That January transfer window ruined us.

And yet funnily enough, when 'whipping boy' Grant came on today we looked more like scoring in those last 20 minutes than we had in the previous 70 !!


But we didn't score he just had lots of possession and passed it sideways.

Not sure what your point is.
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby G B » Sat May 04, 2019 10:45 pm

AlanStag wrote:
Jamie wrote:Oh fgs. Sat here now I would sooner have had anyone else in charge today but its hypothetical and pointless raspberrys.

Not sure how our best season for 14 odd years is no progress either.

It does provide some perspective on Flitcroft’s performance though doesn’t it?

In reality the reason most Stags hate Evans is because he didn’t see the job through. Suggesting if he stayed our fortunes may have been different, what we know for definite is DF couldn’t see that one over the line either.


Nope. I hated Evans because he's a total bell end.
I really wanted DF to succeed as he seems to be good lad. Ultimately though we are in the same position so just trying to work out if DF needs extra time or not. The team looks shot and I really can't see us winning the play offs now but I'll reserve any judgement until the season has finished and I'm feeling less emotional.
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby frt1987 » Sun May 05, 2019 7:10 pm

Hypothetical statement....if we had beat Oldham, Stevenage and MK , we would have gone up as champions!
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby sunray » Sun May 05, 2019 7:42 pm

The larger the crowd the more chance we have of losing. So hypothetically let's hope everyone watches on TV and doesn't bother going on Sunday or to Wembley
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby PEAR CIDER » Tue May 07, 2019 8:07 am

MTFCMAD wrote:
Dave Wayne wrote:
MTFCMAD wrote:Another one.......which player would you rather have.

Time Elsnik or Jorge Grant ?

That January transfer window ruined us.

And yet funnily enough, when 'whipping boy' Grant came on today we looked more like scoring in those last 20 minutes than we had in the previous 70 !!


But we didn't score he just had lots of possession and passed it sideways.

Not sure what your point is.


His point is we setup incorrect from the start and threatened when he came on.

We took grant off against Lincoln and also didn't have an attack after that.

Yes, grant is a luxury when it comes to the defensive side fo things, but we look empty up the other end of the field without him.
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby Bros » Tue May 07, 2019 9:22 am

If Fatman and Dodgy were still at the club they would be watching the play off games from the stands following the abuse they would have given to me officials following the disallowed goal at Oldham
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby wink68 » Tue May 07, 2019 9:33 am

adamstag wrote:We choked. That’s what we did

We ultimately needed 1 point out of 9 at the business end of the season and couldn’t manage that.

And folk say we aren’t bottle jobs

Draws against Oldham and Stevenage still wouldn't have been enough with a loss at MK. That's why we played attacking line ups and went for a win. Leaving us open at the back and lost both.
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby Amber Andy » Tue May 07, 2019 9:36 am

AlanStag wrote:
Jamie wrote:Oh fgs. Sat here now I would sooner have had anyone else in charge today but its hypothetical and pointless raspberrys.

Not sure how our best season for 14 odd years is no progress either.

It does provide some perspective on Flitcroft’s performance though doesn’t it?

In reality the reason most Stags hate Evans is because he didn’t see the job through. Suggesting if he stayed our fortunes may have been different, what we know for definite is DF couldn’t see that one over the line either.

Which begs the question why he left? Surely his ego would have welcomed another promotion on his CV.

Did he realise that lack of training meant the players had nothing left in the tank.

Which is also hypothetical.
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby gazza1988 » Tue May 07, 2019 5:40 pm

Hypothetically speaking, I said at the time he was expecting to go to Peterborough, see them up and we go up so he can claim 2 promotions.

I will point out 1 thing. Evans assembled an expensive squad here which ultimately finish 1 place outside the playoffs. He's gone to posh, assembled an expensive side which, after he left at the end of January ended up...... 1 place outside the playoffs.
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby geoffhill » Tue May 07, 2019 7:45 pm

Evens left simply because he wanted to manage the club where he lives.it's as simple as that.
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Re: Hypothetical Question

Postby Amber Andy » Tue May 07, 2019 9:12 pm

geoffhill wrote:Evens left simply because he wanted to manage the club where he lives.it's as simple as that.
He could have waited until the end of the season.
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