Bury FC Courtcase

[adamstag]

Absolutely gutted for them and every stag should be thankful we never went the same way rather than being angry we didn't go up. Yes it was wrong that we were robbed of promotion but in the grand scheme of things it doesnt really matter, we still have a team to watch. RIP bury, and shame on the efl for allowing this disgrace to happen.

We WERE robbed. By our own form in the last 12 games. Not Bury’s fault.

Exactly

[Tippy Tappy Football]

Everybody knew that Bury were in financial trouble in December. They could easily have sold Danny Mayor for over £1 million in January. I'm guessing that Steve Dale chose not to because his deal with Stewart Day probably said that any profits from player sales had to be paid to Stewart Day's company.

I think most Bury fans who were dancing on the pitch celebrating promotion knew they were likely to go bust as they had not even paid their players for the last 2-3 months.

[Foresttownstag]

Very sad situation and they won’t be the last.

The EFL are right to do what they’ve done but it shouldn’t have got this far. The EFL should be ashamed of themselves, allowing crooks to take charge of communities.

[Amber Andy]

Absolutely gutted for them and every stag should be thankful we never went the same way rather than being angry we didn't go up. Yes it was wrong that we were robbed of promotion but in the grand scheme of things it doesnt really matter, we still have a team to watch. RIP bury, and shame on the efl for allowing this disgrace to happen.

We WERE robbed. By our own form in the last 12 games. Not Bury’s fault.

Whilst I broadly agree with that, Bury bought promotion with money they didn't have. Due to that one team was denied promotion, that team was probably us.

I feel for their supporters and those who are now out of work.

The EFL have come out of this with no credibility.

[ParisStag]

Very sad situation and they won’t be the last.

The EFL are right to do what they’ve done but it shouldn’t have got this far. The EFL should be ashamed of themselves, allowing crooks to take charge of communities.

How are the EFL right to do this if they are the ones who should have stopped these people taking over in the first place. There should be some kind of EFL fine for people that take clubs into admin, that's written into any membership contract. This way, they punish the owners and not the club and its fans.

[Stockportstag]

Shame on sky sport for having a countdown clock, it’s sky that ruined football and anyone who pays to watch should realise that...once sky got involved in football it was the end of the game as we know it..good luck Bolton and Bury.

Totally agree. I hate Sky and the Premier League.
I don't subscribe to Sky and have ever been to a Premiership game.

[arsene wengers coat]

Dead and Bury'd.

It's a shame but if a club is run like such a shambles and spend beyond their means, this will happen.

Up next, Bolton.

[cassellswasmagic]

We spend beyond our means too on small attendances. This could be us one day soon!!! Just saying.

[Conker]

We spend beyond our means too on small attendances. This could be us one day soon!!! Just saying.

Ridiculous comparison considering our attendances and revenue are bigger than Bury and our chairman covers the budget being so big and doesn’t remortgage the ground. Just saying.

[Captain Cunno]

The fans were not bothered when they were celebrating being promoted on money they never had.
It's not the first time with Bury either.

No sympathy here...

[bobbystagsfan]

We spend beyond our means too on small attendances. This could be us one day soon!!! Just saying.

Ridiculous comparison considering our attendances and revenue are bigger than Bury and our chairman covers the budget being so big and doesn’t remortgage the ground. Just saying.

JR also isn't an asset stripper

[HitchcocksShins]

Can we buy their scoreboard?

[Tippy Tappy Football]

The fans need to set up their own phoenix club but I still think Steve Dale will try and keep hold of Bury.

[The One]

The fans were not bothered when they were celebrating being promoted on money they never had.
It's not the first time with Bury either.

No sympathy here...

Or here. If I take out a huge mortgage, dont pay spend money on other stuff, its the building societys fault. They cheated .

[EdwinstoweStag]

The fans need to set up their own phoenix club but I still think Steve Dale will try and keep hold of Bury.

I fear that Mr Dale’s health and well-being is at serious risk in and around Bury

[Staggie Steve]

My sadness at what has happened to Bury is mixed with irritation at how long the EFL have sat on their backsides doing nothing to resolve a situation which was spiralling out of control last season. It's a selfish thing to utter, but we could have benefitted if something had been done at that stage.

If the EFL had chosen to act at the end of last season by expelling Bury back then and expunging all results involving them - has anyone calculated how that would have left the table with our 4 points and 4-3 goal tally against them being removed?

[mousemousemouse]

My sadness at what has happened to Bury is mixed with irritation at how long the EFL have sat on their backsides doing nothing to resolve a situation which was spiralling out of control last season. It's a selfish thing to utter, but we could have benefitted if something had been done at that stage.

If the EFL had chosen to act at the end of last season by expelling Bury back then and expunging all results involving them - has anyone calculated how that would have left the table with our 4 points and 4-3 goal tally against them being removed?

I saw a post on Twitter/Facebook thgat said we'd still would've missed out on automatic by a point based on others having their results agaionst bury wiped out too

[cerfjaune]

I’m sure that the average Bury fan was blissful unaware of the real financial situation at the club for most of last season, just as most of us only have the vaguest notion of what our true situation is. We don’t even know what the wages of individual players are - nor should we. And wages only contribute a proportion of the club’s running expenses.
What matters to most fans is results, and if those results mean promotion of course they’re going to dance on the pitch.
It may be regrettable, but only specialist accountants or economists can begin to understand the true economic situation of any enterprise, be that a football club or a country. Sadly we have to take our “leaders” on trust, which I suppose makes most of us gullible fools.

[Tippy Tappy Football]

Bury should have been deducted 3 points last season for every month they did not pay their players. They then should have been excluded from the play offs and have been relegated to the National League if they had not paid the players and staff in full within 14 days of the end of the season.

This would have saved Notts County but they had also not paid their players so Yeovil should have been saved from relegation.

Macclesfield should also have been relegated as they had not paid their players.

[Parkinsons Perm]

Bury should have been deducted 3 points last season for every month they did not pay their players. They then should have been excluded from the play offs and have been relegated to the National League if they had not paid the players and staff in full within 14 days of the end of the season.

This would have saved Notts County but they had also not paid their players so Yeovil should have been saved from relegation.

Macclesfield should also have been relegated as they had not paid their players.

And Darren it is as simple as that but the EFL fiddles while football in the lower leagues burns.

[Tippy Tappy Football]

The EFL should watch this over and over again!!

[Stoney]

Would you take him back?

[Jamie]

Dawson needs to wind his neck in. He can easily get another club and a well paid contract, all this 'losing my home' stuff is just cringeworthly self indulgence. What about the club staff who live on much much less than him who will struggle to find employment full stop. The very fact he's making it about himself is very distasteful. I wouldn't want him here on the back of his BS lately.

[BH_Stag]

Would you take him back?

Nope. Always injured and it’s quality, technical footballers that we need fo find for the midfield, not another workhorse.

[cassellswasmagic]

We spend beyond our means too on small attendances. This could be us one day soon!!! Just saying.

Ridiculous comparison considering our attendances and revenue are bigger than Bury and our chairman covers the budget being so big and doesn’t remortgage the ground. Just saying.

No need to be sarcastic Conk I’m not giving a comparison with Bury, so much as saying we need to be careful.