Rob wrote:Martin Shaw wrote:Rob wrote:Martin Shaw wrote:Martin Shaw wrote:according to the laws as they are at present, it was a penalty. The law needs to be changed in my opinion, because that should not have been a penalty. Just my opinion.
I thought the discussion here was good. A referee's view and the ex-players' view: https://sport.bt.com/did-var-get-contro ... 4343299471
another very good discussion by the pundits on BT after the Chelsea game tonight. A similar incident to the Man Utd game. No penalty given, and no VAR. Glenn Hoddle getting quite agitated about it saying they need to get some ex-players into ifab to change the ruling.
So what was Glenn's suggestion for the new law? It's OK for the likes of Hoddle, Ferdinand etc to criticise the laws, but if it was that easy to solve then it wouldn't be the issue it is. Also top level footballers and managers are always consulted on the laws, I am surprised Hoddle is not aware of that.
Gary Linekar said last night that every time the ball hit the hand/arm it was a foul, just like the foot rule in Hockey. To me that clears all doubt, but the inevitable result will be more free kicks and more stoppages to the game.
Hoddle didn't have a suggestion. But it was quite a good discussion and he was adamant that the current ruling doesn't make sense.
I don't like Lineker's suggestion at all personally. I think it would be farcical. I also think it would lead to players booting the ball hard deliberately towards players' arms in the box.
So with that in mind, maybe it isn't wise to get ex-footballers to decide the laws, which was my point
For the record, I also do not agree with Linekars suggestion, but at least he, unlike Glenn, Rio etc has at least come up with a suggestion. Easiest thing in the world is to call something rubbish, it is a bit harder when you are then asked "so what would you do?".
Me, I'd leave it to the ref's judgement as to whether it was a deliberate act or not - but sadly I think football at the top level will soon be just like the NFL.
I agree with you.