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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby arsene wengers coat » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:59 pm

Martin Shaw wrote:He's a good ref, a step up from the normal dross at this level in my opinion


A) he's clearly not a good ref is he, hence his relegation down the leagues.

B) I'dve taken 'dross' today, that would be about 5 steps up from today's refereeing performance.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby Conker » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:00 pm

How did he not send turner off? And why did DF play him? Two crazy decisions of the day.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby Martin Shaw » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:12 pm

arsene wengers coat wrote:A) he's clearly not a good ref is he, hence his relegation down the leagues.

He had a poor game today. His "relegation" as you put it was, I think, because there weren't any Premier League games today. I don't watch many Premier League games so I'll bow to your knowledge.

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B) I'dve taken 'dross' today, that would be about 5 steps up from today's refereeing performance.


No referee's performance would have helped us today in my opinion.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby scotsstag » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:39 pm

Let's not forget that this pathetic effort of a referee is a so called professional, and being paid /rewarded according.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby wayno cordiniho » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:28 pm

Blame the ref all you like, the players didn’t turn up end of
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:50 pm

It was an absolutely dreadful performance by Lee Mason but no excuses because the Stags were absolutely dreadful too. However Lee Mason's willingness to blow for any slight contact played into the hands of a masterclass in time wasting by County in the 2nd half which Gareth Ainsworth would have been proud of. He just did not let the game flow at all and kept falling for all the diving and play acting by County. He made Trevor Kettle and Darren Drysdale look good.

Premier League refs seem to become super fussy when reffing League 2 games. Mike Dean was as bad when he reffed the Lincoln v Grimsby game. He booked eight and sent James McKeown off.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby S7AGS » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:09 pm

Without wanting to detract or give our players an excuse.....lee mason eas a discrace today and did not help at all...

First half he stopped play so many times you could see the ‘fun’ drain out our players...every little division given to county (‘homer’ doesn’t do it justice)...second half we never got going but (and I reaffirm) the ref had beat any fight out of us

We were crap anyway so not providing an excuse but just thought mason was awful for us today
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby Bradders » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:38 pm

wayno cordiniho wrote:Blame the ref all you like, the players didn’t turn up end of

Who's been blaming the ref? Nobody. The discussion is still valid.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby stagmanrob » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:04 am

He was a typical Premier League referee. They all blow for fouls regularly as they ref at a level that is far less physical and constantly has foreigners throwing themselves about like they have been shot. They always protect players against defenders, it's like it's in their remit.

County used their vast experience from the likes of CMS, Stead and Doyle to implement that as a gameplan perfectly in my opinion. All they were doing was getting themselves between the man and ball, and we fell into the trap they were setting every time by initiating just enough contact for them to go down easily.

It worked a treat, and made the game a stop-start affair which is exactly what County wanted. We were so shocking all over the pitch that it just amped up our frustrations more and more, so we kept falling into that trap more and more.

Lee Mason reffed that game no more different to what any other official from his level would have done I don't think. It was a case of experience V stupidity with how both sides went about their physical play today, so County easily drew us into fouling them regularly.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby Suttonian » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:44 am

If the referee does give a free kick every time a player goes down too easily at a hint of physical contact it does make a difference to the game as momentum is lost and the initiative is given to the opposition. Earlier in the season we had a reputation for not knowing when we were beaten and getting results so who knows if we could have gained an unlikely result here.

On the referees in the last 5 games, if the penalties were given against Tranmere, Forest Green and Newport and IF we scored them we would be 3 points better off with an extra 3 goal difference. That could be massively important come the end of the season.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby Mr Grimsdale » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:04 am

It may have already been said, but for me the referee was never going to cause controversy with a Nottingham team twice in four days. He wanted to avoid that like the plague I believe, and we looked like were playing against an extra man at times. I think he really was that bad.
Couple the fact we had completely the wrong characters in our team for a game like this, and you have come a recipe for defeat.
Moving forward the biggest issue for me is how many are up for the fight against teams trying to go up, and equally as dangerous, like yesterday those trying to stay up. There are a lot of mini cup finals from now on in.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby Chrisuknottm » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:06 am

Thought it was quite ironic at full time that a Premiership referee made sure he was positioned as close to the tunnel as he possibly could at the furthest point away from the Stags fan......maybe he sensed something do you think?

No waiting in the centre circle for his trusting young linos to join him ......!!
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby Sneag » Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:15 pm

Mason yesterday, stopped Stags taking a quick throw because a County player was down, County player miraculously leapt to his feet after County got their shape back. Later the same half, Jones was down & needing treatment after a challenge (foul IMO) Mason allowed County to play on and nearly score while our defender was still on the deck.

Pulled Stags back for two foul throws (correctly) then ignored the same offence several times from County, one of their players had one or both feet off the ground everytime he took a throw.

CMS clearly handled the ball before Turner fouled him, shocking that Mason didn't see it but indicative of the performance that was to come.

Mellis was whacked off the ball & none of the 3 saw it. Mellis was clearly still steaming over that when he dived into that stupid taking that he got booked for.

We were so poor yesterday that regardless of the ref we were never going to get a result, but he certainly didn't help our cause.

It's the worst performance I've seen seen from a ref since the Conference days.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby georgefostersbeard » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:25 pm

Sneag wrote:

Mellis was whacked off the ball & none of the 3 saw it. Mellis was clearly still steaming over that when he dived into that stupid taking that he got booked for.

We were so poor yesterday that regardless of the ref we were never going to get a result, but he certainly didn't help our cause.


That was at a point when we were getting back into at the start of the second half. Doyle took out three players - Grant after he had pushed the ball past him, turned and caught Mellis as he ran past him and then Jones in the middle of the pitch.
Getting away with it allowed Doyle to whip up his team and it knocked whatever stuffing we had left in us. It was typical of how we allowed his refereeing to impact on us.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:50 pm

georgefostersbeard wrote:
Sneag wrote:

Mellis was whacked off the ball & none of the 3 saw it. Mellis was clearly still steaming over that when he dived into that stupid taking that he got booked for.

We were so poor yesterday that regardless of the ref we were never going to get a result, but he certainly didn't help our cause.


That was at a point when we were getting back into at the start of the second half. Doyle took out three players - Grant after he had pushed the ball past him, turned and caught Mellis as he ran past him and then Jones in the middle of the pitch.
Getting away with it allowed Doyle to whip up his team and it knocked whatever stuffing we had left in us. It was typical of how we allowed his refereeing to impact on us.


Either way, Doyle bossed us, good style.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:58 pm

georgefostersbeard wrote:
Sneag wrote:

Mellis was whacked off the ball & none of the 3 saw it. Mellis was clearly still steaming over that when he dived into that stupid taking that he got booked for.

We were so poor yesterday that regardless of the ref we were never going to get a result, but he certainly didn't help our cause.


That was at a point when we were getting back into at the start of the second half. Doyle took out three players - Grant after he had pushed the ball past him, turned and caught Mellis as he ran past him and then Jones in the middle of the pitch.
Getting away with it allowed Doyle to whip up his team and it knocked whatever stuffing we had left in us. It was typical of how we allowed his refereeing to impact on us.


That was the same time and the only time we had them on the rack, we just put another cross in and guess what he was the only one in the ground to see a push which took the heat off !!!!
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby spanishstag » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:00 pm

I really dont think doyle bossed us ,notts were up for it ,CMS wont be able to play like that again this season ,he must be knackered ,we were poor they were up for it ,end of ,poor selection ,but DF hasnt done much wrong so far this season still going up
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby Big yella » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:51 pm

halifaxstag wrote:
I am Spartacus wrote:Don’t blame the referee. Did he have a hard decision to make today? The answer is no. All challenges he blew for were easily identifiable.

He had an easy game but 4,200 from Mansfield wanted a scape goat for the performance of their players. We need to look at ourselves before we blame the referee.

It wasn’t so much the ones he gave but the ones he didn’t. He was inconsistent and Notts were very clever/ “professional”.
Any little contact and they went down and they got away with a lot of shirt pulling, etc. both on and off the ball. Are you saying that Notts really only committed 6 fouls in the match to our 21?
I’m not looking for a scapegoat (because we weren’t on our game today) just some consistency and a referee who should know, and be able to spot, the tricks of the trade.

That was his problem, a Clownty player went down and he stopped play for that player to get treatment. Two minutes later a Stags player goes down and he plays on. The boards resident referees union can say what they like, he was awful. Just because we were awful doesn't negate how bad he was.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby SINA STAG » Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:21 am

English football hasn't got one half decent referee n this was summed up at last years World Cup we didn't have any in Russia.

Bring back the likes of Rennee
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:41 am

SINA STAG wrote:English football hasn't got one half decent referee n this was summed up at last years World Cup we didn't have any in Russia.

Bring back the likes of Rennee


Are you mad?

Uriah Rennie was the pits.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby cassellswasmagic » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:07 am

EdwinstoweStag wrote:
SINA STAG wrote:English football hasn't got one half decent referee n this was summed up at last years World Cup we didn't have any in Russia.

Bring back the likes of Rennee


Are you mad?

Uriah Rennie was the pits.

He was shocking.
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby tinman » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:17 am

Bring back Arthur Kirkpatrick
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby SINA STAG » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:52 am

cassellswasmagic wrote:
EdwinstoweStag wrote:
SINA STAG wrote:English football hasn't got one half decent referee n this was summed up at last years World Cup we didn't have any in Russia.

Bring back the likes of Rennee


Are you mad?

Uriah Rennie was the pits.

He was shocking.



In your opinion guys
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby SINA STAG » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:53 am

cassellswasmagic wrote:
EdwinstoweStag wrote:
SINA STAG wrote:English football hasn't got one half decent referee n this was summed up at last years World Cup we didn't have any in Russia.

Bring back the likes of Rennee


Are you mad?

Uriah Rennie was the pits.

He was shocking.



In your opinion guys

My opinion the greatest referee was David Ellery
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Re: Lee Mason Referee

Postby adamstag » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:21 am

Uriah Rennie was hopeless! :lol:
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