The 'special relationship'

[ParisStag]

It's clear now that we have a very good relationship with Forest. 3 of their best young products on loan gives us a great chance of going up, but what are the advantages for Forest?

- it's probably unlikely that any of these will go on to be first team regulars there, but them doing well with us helps boost their selling price.

- the relationship favours Forest if any of our players become good enough for the Championship. I. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a deal in place for CJ, either now or at the end of the season.

[bobbystagsfan]

plus it will really piss county fans and Alan hardon off

[MOTG]

It's clear now that we have a very good relationship with Forest. 3 of their best young products on loan gives us a great chance of going up, but what are the advantages for Forest?

- it's probably unlikely that any of these will go on to be first team regulars there, but them doing well with us helps boost their selling price.

- the relationship favours Forest if any of our players become good enough for the Championship. I. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a deal in place for CJ, either now or at the end of the season.

I've been saying for a long time we ought to get some of the Forest youngsters on loan . They have a good youth set up but so do we now. If our youngsters make the grade and then eventually play at a higher level why not Forest ? If our relationship continues they could always come back on loan if they find a higher League too difficult. Stags could be a feeder club if it pays to do so. What's the likelihood of CJ eventually going to Forest ?

[EdwinstoweStag]

It's clear now that we have a very good relationship with Forest. 3 of their best young products on loan gives us a great chance of going up, but what are the advantages for Forest?

- it's probably unlikely that any of these will go on to be first team regulars there, but them doing well with us helps boost their selling price.

- the relationship favours Forest if any of our players become good enough for the Championship. I. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a deal in place for CJ, either now or at the end of the season.

I've been saying for a long time we ought to get some of the Forest youngsters on loan . They have a good youth set up but so do we now. If our youngsters make the grade and then eventually play at a higher level why not Forest ? If our relationship continues they could always come back on loan if they find a higher League too difficult. Stags could be a feeder club if it pays to do so. What's the likelihood of CJ eventually going to Forest ?

Martin O’Neill’s player crèche

[Vice President]

I am delighted that we have a 'special relationship' with Forest. Nottingham Forest will always be a much bigger club than Mansfield Town, and us being a 'feeder club' to them can be mutually beneficial. Crewe had a similar relationship with Liverpool - and it benefited them enormously over two decades.

Forest have a great youth set-up, and we are now developing a good youth set up. There is no reason why we can't work together successfully for both parties, if we have a good relationship.

[ParisStag]

It only needs reviewing when we get to the Championship.

[EdwinstoweStag]

Have Forest got a spare scoreboard?

[SINA STAG]

[quote="EdwinstoweStag"]Have Forest got a spare scoreboard?[/quote]


One on loan Edders

That makes 3 scoreboards at this rate we can have one in every stand.......

[ParisStag]

Have Forest got a spare scoreboard?

What about a stand?

[MTFCMusings]

I suspect they’ll be a bus full of Forest players arriving next season after six months with Roy Keane!

[garlic]

Am I the only one who finds it rather sad and I think detrimental to our future that we dont have a special relationship with our own youth team ?

[arsene wengers coat]

It's clear now that we have a very good relationship with Forest. 3 of their best young products on loan gives us a great chance of going up, but what are the advantages for Forest?

- it's probably unlikely that any of these will go on to be first team regulars there, but them doing well with us helps boost their selling price.

- the relationship favours Forest if any of our players become good enough for the Championship. I. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a deal in place for CJ, either now or at the end of the season.

I've been saying for a long time we ought to get some of the Forest youngsters on loan . They have a good youth set up but so do we now. If our youngsters make the grade and then eventually play at a higher level why not Forest ? If our relationship continues they could always come back on loan if they find a higher League too difficult. Stags could be a feeder club if it pays to do so. What's the likelihood of CJ eventually going to Forest ?

Forest's feeder club. Yay. What a prospect. Just what I always wanted.

[Rob]

It's clear now that we have a very good relationship with Forest. 3 of their best young products on loan gives us a great chance of going up, but what are the advantages for Forest?

- it's probably unlikely that any of these will go on to be first team regulars there, but them doing well with us helps boost their selling price.

- the relationship favours Forest if any of our players become good enough for the Championship. I. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a deal in place for CJ, either now or at the end of the season.

I've been saying for a long time we ought to get some of the Forest youngsters on loan . They have a good youth set up but so do we now. If our youngsters make the grade and then eventually play at a higher level why not Forest ? If our relationship continues they could always come back on loan if they find a higher League too difficult. Stags could be a feeder club if it pays to do so. What's the likelihood of CJ eventually going to Forest ?

Forest's feeder club. Yay. What a prospect. Just what I always wanted.

Almost as bad as someone saying Yay.

[mousemousemouse]

I'm not into the idea of us being a feeder club any way shape or form. I don't mind a couple of loans here and there, but anything more than that and we lose our identity

[Stag95]

Am I the only one who finds it rather sad and I think detrimental to our future that we dont have a special relationship with our own youth team ?

We had 3 youth teamers on the bench Saturday and one of them got a good half hour.

[Rob]

I'm not into the idea of us being a feeder club any way shape or form. I don't mind a couple of loans here and there, but anything more than that and we lose our identity

I'm a bit uncomfortable having 6 loan players too, no matter where they are from, it's not really the key to long term success. However, from the position we are in and the fact we have a clear weakness in the final third, I can fully understand that to get the sort of quality you need in January, loan signings are probably the best short term bet.

[arsene wengers coat]

It's clear now that we have a very good relationship with Forest. 3 of their best young products on loan gives us a great chance of going up, but what are the advantages for Forest?

- it's probably unlikely that any of these will go on to be first team regulars there, but them doing well with us helps boost their selling price.

- the relationship favours Forest if any of our players become good enough for the Championship. I. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a deal in place for CJ, either now or at the end of the season.

I've been saying for a long time we ought to get some of the Forest youngsters on loan . They have a good youth set up but so do we now. If our youngsters make the grade and then eventually play at a higher level why not Forest ? If our relationship continues they could always come back on loan if they find a higher League too difficult. Stags could be a feeder club if it pays to do so. What's the likelihood of CJ eventually going to Forest ?

Forest's feeder club. Yay. What a prospect. Just what I always wanted.

Almost as bad as someone saying Yay.

Rob, I don't know what your problem is, but I'll be sure to keep using very small words for you so it may continue. Yay!

[EdwinstoweStag]

Am I the only one who finds it rather sad and I think detrimental to our future that we dont have a special relationship with our own youth team ?

That’s a tad simplistic.

[garlic]

Am I the only one who finds it rather sad and I think detrimental to our future that we dont have a special relationship with our own youth team ?

That’s a tad simplistic.

How is it - please explain

[georgefostersbeard]

Am I the only one who finds it rather sad and I think detrimental to our future that we dont have a special relationship with our own youth team ?

That’s a tad simplistic.

How is it - please explain

Don't know if it is simplistic but DF has said in interviews that he values the youth set up, he took the academy to Portugal, he has played a cup game finishing with 6 home grown players and is giving Jordan Graham increasing minutes on the pitch. DF has also said that he has a system in which he promotes the player of the week up a level each week. It seems to me that he does value our youth set up. We have gone from zero to a real investment in our youth in a short time but it is likely that DF doesn't consider that our youth players are good enough at the moment to give us promotion.

[ParisStag]

If reinstating the academy, getting them winning, investing in local youth football, giving them pro contracts and actually playing them in games isn't having a special relationship with our own youth teamers, I don't know what it.

[Mr Grimsdale]

[quote="ParisStag"]If reinstating the academy, getting them winning, investing in local youth football, giving them pro contracts and actually playing them in games isn't having a special relationship with our own youth teamers, I don't know what it.[/quote

I think that's the big thing about our youth set up, it does have a knock on effect with kids and getting them interested, and is a real positive as a community excercise , just a bit of a shame we are currently going lock stock and almost the barrel for youngsters from other clubs.
Hopefully we can produce our own Grants and Walkers etc before too long.

[Gruff]

I think the link with Forest is certainly showing the Radford's intent to try to get promotion. We are picking up some quality players from them, and even in League 1 we could be able to maintain this type of relationship (hopefully).

On the side of caution though, they are allowing the players to come here because they like the set-up, the game time and the style of football we're playing. If we continue the way we are, then should Martin O'Neill full foul of the Forest Board (and who doesn't), then what better manager could they have than somebody who knows their younger players and develops them, than our own Mr Flitcroft. Although I believe they are more of a "want it now" club at the moment, so would they be prepared to build over time.

Personally, if he gets that opportunity (after getting us promotion), then good on him, as we would have an even stronger relationship with them going forward, as the club have stood by and fully supported him.

[Marky Mark]

If we end up getting first dibs on their good youngsters then the reciprocation might be that they get first refusal on our best players if we decide to sell them. Seems fair enough to me.

[arsene wengers coat]

If we end up getting first dibs on their good youngsters then the reciprocation might be that they get first refusal on our best players if we decide to sell them. Seems fair enough to me.

That is definition of a feeder club.