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Striker coach

Postby georgefostersbeard » Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:52 pm

The one obvious issue for the team, at the moment, is the lack of composure in front of goal. I would say that in several recent games the opposition goalkeeper would have had a top chance of being the man of the match but we are not killing teams off.


We used to have Karl Hawley as a striker coach but am not aware that we ever replaced him as a coach working specifically with the strikers. Does anyone know who, if anyone does take this role?
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Re: Striker coach

Postby grufti » Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:06 pm

if we could finish easy chances we'd be 5+ points clear
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Re: Striker coach

Postby georgefostersbeard » Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:32 pm

grufti wrote:if we could finish easy chances we'd be 5+ points clear


Agreed - there were chances today - how Walker's clever touch was saved today I will never know but other chances should have been buried. There are also times when we need to just hit the ball instead of taking another four touches.

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Re: Striker coach

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:45 pm

Somebody at the club has coached CJ to finish chances.

When he first came to us his finishing was woeful.

It was poor last season too.
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Re: Striker coach

Postby yorkshire stag » Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:47 pm

think it’s Mark Sale if today’s performance is anything to go by
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Re: Striker coach

Postby Martin Shaw » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:06 pm

we don't have a striker coach, or a striker on the coaching staff.
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Re: Striker coach

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:09 pm

yorkshire stag wrote:think it’s Mark Sale if today’s performance is anything to go by


I don't think we could afford Mark Sale as he is the first team coach at Stoke City!!
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Re: Striker coach

Postby yorkshire stag » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:13 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:
yorkshire stag wrote:think it’s Mark Sale if today’s performance is anything to go by


I don't think we could afford Mark Sale as he is the first team coach at Stoke City!!



what ‘thee’ Mark fifty pence head Sale that played for us?
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Re: Striker coach

Postby gazza1988 » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:24 pm

Allan Russell is the striker coach of the England football team. Didn't he have a record of 1 in 9 for us in the conf?

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Re: Striker coach

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:35 pm

Mark Sale

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Re: Striker coach

Postby edwinscott » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:25 pm

gazza1988 wrote:Allan Russell is the striker coach of the England football team. Didn't he have a record of 1 in 9 for us in the conf?

You know what they say "If you can do, teach."


We brought him in for a day when Muzza was here and he worked with Greeny. Watched it and it was a good session although Greeny did get a little frustrated as he couldn’t always execute everything that he was asked to do.
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Re: Striker coach

Postby PEAR CIDER » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:35 pm

We are winning games. Conceding less than we score, yet you still moan zzzzzzzz
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Re: Striker coach

Postby part time pete » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:32 am

Chander Lear wrote:We are winning games. Conceding less than we score, yet you still moan zzzzzzzz


If we had scored one more yesterday we would be fourth and not fifth this morning
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Re: Striker coach

Postby Bradders » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:37 am

I think it's a fair point, and I'm astonished that none of our coaches is a striker. It's a specialist skill that a general coach won't really know about.
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Re: Striker coach

Postby Im not the real OND » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:56 am

Every position on the pitch is specialist. Much more so than ever before. A defensive midfielder has a very different skill set to an attacking one. Likewise a full back and wing back. I'm sure we haven't got (or can afford) a coach for each position.

As a 'general' coaching team they seem to be doing ok to me. Given the strides CJ has made since they have been here suggest they know how to work on the attacking side of the game.
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Re: Striker coach

Postby Bros » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:56 am

There are a couple of dozen "experts" in the qle who are always offering advice to the strikers. I'm sure one of them could do the job
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Re: Striker coach

Postby PEAR CIDER » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:07 am

part time pete wrote:
Chander Lear wrote:We are winning games. Conceding less than we score, yet you still moan zzzzzzzz


If we had scored one more yesterday we would be fourth and not fifth this morning

If we had conceeded one less we'd be 4th...
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Re: Striker coach

Postby Bradders » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:44 am

Im not the real OND wrote:Every position on the pitch is specialist. Much more so than ever before. A defensive midfielder has a very different skill set to an attacking one. Likewise a full back and wing back. I'm sure we haven't got (or can afford) a coach for each position.

As a 'general' coaching team they seem to be doing ok to me. Given the strides CJ has made since they have been here suggest they know how to work on the attacking side of the game.

Sort of, but finishing is such a specialist skill that only a striker will really know what to train, and spot what's going wrong. I feel that most managers and coaches assume that it's just another technique covered by the handbook. But there's a reason that some players are worth a fortune - they actually get the ball over the line regularly and people imagine that it's just a knack, or luck, or magic.
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Re: Striker coach

Postby Big yella » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:41 am

Chander Lear wrote:
part time pete wrote:
Chander Lear wrote:We are winning games. Conceding less than we score, yet you still moan zzzzzzzz


If we had scored one more yesterday we would be fourth and not fifth this morning

If we had conceeded one less we'd be 4th...

Now conceding one less than none really would be managerial genius. :lol:
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Re: Striker coach

Postby bellwhiff » Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:18 pm

Chander Lear wrote:
part time pete wrote:
Chander Lear wrote:We are winning games. Conceding less than we score, yet you still moan zzzzzzzz


If we had scored one more yesterday we would be fourth and not fifth this morning

If we had conceeded one less we'd be 4th...

I think the high percentage of missed chances has caused us to lose points. We are clearly creating a load of chances and we should be scoring more of them.
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Re: Striker coach

Postby georgefostersbeard » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:08 pm

Chander Lear wrote:We are winning games. Conceding less than we score, yet you still moan zzzzzzzz


The OP wasn't intended as a moan more of a query about how they support our strikers. I hadn't know us have a specific striker coach before Hawley (even Evans didn't have one in his cast of thousands) and wondered who was supporting them.

If you look at CJ things have clearly improved under this coaching team so there is clearly the potential to move them on.
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Re: Striker coach

Postby gazza1988 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:36 pm

it depends who they are practising against in training. if they are up against Pearce, Sweeney and Preston they probably wont have much practice at shooting.

I will probably get shot down for this but I don't necessarily think there is anything wrong with our strike force. Just keepers making good saves. A few times they have been horrible misses but alot of our attempts on target have drew good saves. Doesn't mean we are terrible at finishing just their keeper got a touch on the ball which was enough.
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Re: Striker coach

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:39 pm

gazza1988 wrote:it depends who they are practising against in training. if they are up against Pearce, Sweeney and Preston they probably wont have much practice at shooting.

I will probably get shot down for this but I don't necessarily think there is anything wrong with our strike force. Just keepers making good saves. A few times they have been horrible misses but alot of our attempts on target have drew good saves. Doesn't mean we are terrible at finishing just their keeper got a touch on the ball which was enough.


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Re: Striker coach

Postby part time pete » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:02 pm

Woodclanger 1 wrote:
gazza1988 wrote:it depends who they are practising against in training. if they are up against Pearce, Sweeney and Preston they probably wont have much practice at shooting.

I will probably get shot down for this but I don't necessarily think there is anything wrong with our strike force. Just keepers making good saves. A few times they have been horrible misses but alot of our attempts on target have drew good saves. Doesn't mean we are terrible at finishing just their keeper got a touch on the ball which was enough.


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Re: Striker coach

Postby Amber Andy » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:05 pm

Bros wrote:There are a couple of dozen "experts" in the qle who are always offering advice to the strikers. I'm sure one of them could do the job

No they only think they can. :)
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