MTFC AGM, Thursday 15 November 2018

[Kernow]

Not needed yet !

[stag324]

The big plus for me is the income the club is now starting to generate. It proves so much hard work is going on behind the scenes for the long term future of the club.
Well done to all involved

[west country stag]

10 row stand like the new one at Accrington would be good .

[kcassellsfootygenius]

Don't get the Bishop Street argument, is it purely a vanity thing that people think we should have 4 sides?

We rarely sell out the hospitality we do have and our ground is rarely above half full.

[victor A block]

Don't get the Bishop Street argument, is it purely a vanity thing that people think we should have 4 sides?

We rarely sell out the hospitality we do have and our ground is rarely above half full.

Is it just vanity?

I agree we don't need it doing for capacity. And its John Radford's money.

But does 3 stands affect other things like team performance, lack of an intimidating atmosphere generated in the ground?

We also allegedly lost out on McNulty when he was sent a picture of the stand.

There would be some extra income generated by individual hospitality boxes. Something we don't currently have.

The club are making huge strides but its the one thing that still looks tinpot.

The answer as alluded to by Carolyn is to build the hotel and new stand there......no idea if the Bishop/Lord St houses are rented from the council or privately or owned and we would probably need to purchase the top 2 of each street on each side (8) to make the room. if it could be done it would save money on 2 separate projects I'm sure. They cant be worth much more than 50k each.

[STAGS FOR LIFE]

[STAGS FOR LIFE]

[Stags 2002]

Can we get a poll on here for those that only read the MTFC twitter feed but aren't signed-up to vote?

Surely additional revenue streams are the priority which means the hotel gets my vote, bigger club shop etc also included in the plans.

[bobbystagsfan]

Can we get a poll on here for those that only read the MTFC twitter feed but aren't signed-up to vote?

Surely additional revenue streams are the priority which means the hotel gets my vote, bigger club shop etc also included in the plans.

the bish is winning at the moment, which isn't a surprise. I'd go for the hotel first like you said, that will generate more money than the bishop looking nice and empty

[stagsfan6493]

I don’t really see any benefit of the bishop street stand being renovated until we get into the champ.

[cassellswasmagic]

Hotel first please including revamping the entrance to the car parks and general tidy up of the frontage of the ground.
Then using any profits from the hotel to go towards funding a small new Bishop street stand. This will set us up nicely for league 1 / Championship if our ambitions are realised!!! COYS

[Sneag]

The hotel will generate more money long term I think, but the Bish could be completed quicker, cheaper & with a lot fewer wheels to grease than the hotel project.

As raspberries as the Bish looks, I'd do the hotel first. Maybe tidy the bishop street side up a bit.

[Vice President]

Well you know which I would like built first ...... Bishop St. of course!

Those that keep saying that 'we don't fill the stadium, or shouldn't build a stand until we are in the Championship/sellout the stadium'' completely miss the point.

There is the assumption that the hotel will generate income, however it could also generate losses. The net surplus is the key.

There is a case for building the quickest & cheapest first. The critical factor is how long would the gap be between the two projects?

Assuming that a small stand like Accrington's would be a lot cheaper than a hotel - and could be built very quickly - thereby not delaying building the hotel significantly, thus mitigating any potential loss of income ............ could be a case for doing Bishop St. first.

[EdwinstoweStag]

The going price for a bus shelter is £8k

[Spiritater]

If we're gonna build something on the Bish eventually then please let us build something to be proud of and not just stick some upgraded bus shelter on it. The last thing we want there is some weedy tin 10ft high shiver hole. It needs to be on the scale of the NS or QLE and in keeping with the rest of the ground. If you're gonna do it then do it right.

[mousemousemouse]

A lot of suggests for the bishop street stand seem like they would be an expensive stop gap.

A few rows of seats etc but would need completely re doing when we get more larger crowds. I’d personally see that as a waste of cash.

It’s ugly, but we don’t need that stand. Let’s get another 6,000 through the turnstiles per game before considering it

Would people even use it? I imagine people would say yes, but in reality I doubt it.

Hotel first, whilst getting planning permission and in place for the next 3 years

[mousemousemouse]

Also, the hotel would be franchised to Hilton, so they pay money to rent it regardless. We would get a cut (I think?) of revenue too

[geoffhill]

Hotel first for me.We do not get enough fans to build a new stand.If and when we get promoted then a good quality stand will be built.

[oldnic]

For the older fan, Bishop street would bring back the expectations and atmosphere. It would also add to the intimidation. But the better financial rewards must rule

[ST4GS]

If we're gonna build something on the Bish eventually then please let us build something to be proud of and not just stick some upgraded bus shelter on it. The last thing we want there is some weedy tin 10ft high shiver hole. It needs to be on the scale of the NS or QLE and in keeping with the rest of the ground. If you're gonna do it then do it right.

Echo this statement and love our ambition.
The fact that our owners have instigated this discussion to the fans is the most pleasing aspect.
I trust them to make the correct decision. It is a pity they were not involved back in the late nineties when the ground was being redeveloped. I am sure they would have taken better decisions regarding the design and not cut costs like he who should not be mentioned did.

[milne6]

2012-2013 Conf 2,758
2013-2014 L2 3,385 22.73 %
2014-2015 L2 3,064 -9.48 %
2015-2016 L2 3,439 12.24 %
2016-2017 L2 3,774 9.74 %
2017-2018 L2 4,309 14.18 %

Average attendance since 2013 - improving but not enough for a new stand?

[88BenM]

Looking at the Championship table, it is plausible that the likes of Sheffield Wednesday, Rotherham, Hull, Bolton could all be relegated into League 1. If we managed to secure Promotion to League 1, then you've got the additional teams already in League 1, such as Donny, Coventry, Charlton, Luton and if promotion bids were to falter potentially Pompey, Sunderland, Barnsley that would all bring upwards of 2,000 fans to our ground given the correct conditions and time of year etc. These games would also add to the home interest, so when people say we don't fill our current ground, they're correct, but we are not far away at all from having it full 5 or 6 times a season. If we built a 2,000 seater stand and gave half to home fans and half to away fans, that should take the capacity back up to 10,000 and the revenue created would be significant. And when you look at where the Radford's ambition is, in a Championship ground it would be full 10-15 times a season. All speculation of course, but as pointed out by Vice President, we can't guarantee the hotel will be an instant cash generator. And wouldn't it be a lot more scenic to not have to look at the 400 advertisement boards that are currently displayed?

I vote Bish!

[cassellswasmagic]

[quote="88BenM"]Looking at the Championship table, it is plausible that the likes of Sheffield Wednesday, Rotherham, Hull, Bolton could all be relegated into League 1. If we managed to secure Promotion to League 1, then you've got the additional teams already in League 1, such as Donny, Coventry, Charlton, Luton and if promotion bids were to falter potentially Pompey, Sunderland, Barnsley that would all bring upwards of 2,000 fans to our ground given the correct conditions and time of year etc. These games would also add to the home interest, so when people say we don't fill our current ground, they're correct, but we are not far away at all from having it full 5 or 6 times a season. If we built a 2,000 seater stand and gave half to home fans and half to away fans, that should take the capacity back up to 10,000 and the revenue created would be significant. And when you look at where the Radford's ambition is, in a Championship ground it would be full 10-15 times a season. All speculation of course, but as pointed out by Vice President, we can't guarantee the hotel will be an instant cash generator. And wouldn't it be a lot more scenic to not have to look at the 400 advertisement boards that are currently displayed?
I vote bish.
It is, as you say, very plausible indeed. Let’s hope we achieve it. God it’s great being a Stag at this moment in time....oh the optimism and ambition, pinch yourself....it’s really happening.

[cassellswasmagic]

Looking at the Championship table, it is plausible that the likes of Sheffield Wednesday, Rotherham, Hull, Bolton could all be relegated into League 1. If we managed to secure Promotion to League 1, then you've got the additional teams already in League 1, such as Donny, Coventry, Charlton, Luton and if promotion bids were to falter potentially Pompey, Sunderland, Barnsley that would all bring upwards of 2,000 fans to our ground given the correct conditions and time of year etc. These games would also add to the home interest, so when people say we don't fill our current ground, they're correct, but we are not far away at all from having it full 5 or 6 times a season. If we built a 2,000 seater stand and gave half to home fans and half to away fans, that should take the capacity back up to 10,000 and the revenue created would be significant. And when you look at where the Radford's ambition is, in a Championship ground it would be full 10-15 times a season. All speculation of course, but as pointed out by Vice President, we can't guarantee the hotel will be an instant cash generator. And wouldn't it be a lot more scenic to not have to look at the 400 advertisement boards that are currently displayed?

I vote Bish!

It is, as you say, very plausible indeed. Let’s hope we achieve it. God it’s great being a Stag at this moment in time....oh the optimism and ambition, pinch yourself....it’s really happening.

[EdwinstoweStag]

I’m on the Bish Wish List