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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby cassellswasmagic » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:22 pm

I like Rose but he’s not worth 500k, nearer the 200k mark at best imo. Hope we keep him though.
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby Stag95 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:34 am

cassellswasmagic wrote:I like Rose but he’s not worth 500k, nearer the 200k mark at best imo. Hope we keep him though.

He's worth whatever the buying club are willing to pay and there's no way Radford will sell any of our main men for less than half a mil.
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby Conker » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:46 am

Woodclanger 1 wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
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Stag95 wrote:

£1.2m apparently, he could've been ours too :cry:


Expect an offer for Danny Rose that we wont be able to refuse, just a matter of time :o :o :o

That's crossed my mind too.

Or will they go for Mo Eisa. Apparently a bid has come in from an unnamed club.


If you look at Cheltenham board, it's common knowledge the bid was from Evans.

I hope Coventry do come in for Rose with a good offer, he ain't good enough hence Davies and Walker being brought in


You have obviously felt spoiled with top strikers with Mansfield, Danny Rose is clearly good enough.
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby cassellswasmagic » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:55 am

Stag95 wrote:
cassellswasmagic wrote:I like Rose but he’s not worth 500k, nearer the 200k mark at best imo. Hope we keep him though.

He's worth whatever the buying club are willing to pay and there's no way Radford will sell any of our main men for less than half a mil.

Wrong imo mate.
Neymar isn’t worth 200 Million, only the idiotic clubs blowing their money have over inflated their worth.
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby yorkshire stag » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:56 am

how soon some forget Danny is a quality striker, however every player has their price

hope he stays
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:04 am

it wouldn't be stagsnet if there wasn't a master tacticians saying our top goalscorer last year wasn't good enough anymore, you just can't make it up
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby oldweststander » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:17 am

Danny is a good un but don't forget, everyone has a value.

If he wanted to leave he would obviously need replacing, so a good deal would have to be struck in the first place.

I'm confident in our four man strike force, that includes Danny, without him it's back to square one as far as goals are concerned.
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby Stag95 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:19 am

cassellswasmagic wrote:
Stag95 wrote:
cassellswasmagic wrote:I like Rose but he’s not worth 500k, nearer the 200k mark at best imo. Hope we keep him though.

He's worth whatever the buying club are willing to pay and there's no way Radford will sell any of our main men for less than half a mil.

Wrong imo mate.
Neymar isn’t worth 200 Million, only the idiotic clubs blowing their money have over inflated their worth.

That's exactly my point, a player is worth as much as a club is willing to pay. Football is too fluid to say a player is worth X amount, especially when a player's worth for one team might be 10 times more useful for another.
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby abc » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:26 am

Stag95 wrote:
cassellswasmagic wrote:I like Rose but he’s not worth 500k, nearer the 200k mark at best imo. Hope we keep him though.

He's worth whatever the buying club are willing to pay and there's no way Radford will sell any of our main men for less than half a mil.


Wrong.
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby Stag95 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:30 am

abc wrote:
Stag95 wrote:
cassellswasmagic wrote:I like Rose but he’s not worth 500k, nearer the 200k mark at best imo. Hope we keep him though.

He's worth whatever the buying club are willing to pay and there's no way Radford will sell any of our main men for less than half a mil.


Wrong.

Okay thanks for the discussion there Mr Trump :lol:
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby Stag95 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:37 am

abc wrote:
Stag95 wrote:
cassellswasmagic wrote:I like Rose but he’s not worth 500k, nearer the 200k mark at best imo. Hope we keep him though.

He's worth whatever the buying club are willing to pay and there's no way Radford will sell any of our main men for less than half a mil.


Wrong.

Okay thanks for the discussion there Mr Trump :lol:
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby Woodclanger 1 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:37 am

Conker wrote:
Woodclanger 1 wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
DogsDoDahs wrote:
Stag95 wrote:

£1.2m apparently, he could've been ours too :cry:


Expect an offer for Danny Rose that we wont be able to refuse, just a matter of time :o :o :o

That's crossed my mind too.

Or will they go for Mo Eisa. Apparently a bid has come in from an unnamed club.


If you look at Cheltenham board, it's common knowledge the bid was from Evans.

I hope Coventry do come in for Rose with a good offer, he ain't good enough hence Davies and Walker being brought in


You have obviously felt spoiled with top strikers with Mansfield, Danny Rose is clearly good enough.


It's an opinions board, yes I'm old enough to have seen the great, the good, the mediocre, the bad and the p poor. Danny comes in at mediocre imo.
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:52 am

Danny rose, the mediocre striker that scored more goals than anyone else in a stags shirt last year. he was nearly our 20 goal a season man too.
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby Stag95 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:05 am

People forget how much he carried us the first half of the season. Everyone was absolutely delighted when he signed a new deal. He has been doing rehabilitation work in pre-season so maybe he was carrying a knock through the last few months but had to carry on playing because the rest of our forwards couldn't buy a goal between them?
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby Woodclanger 1 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:11 am

bobbystagsfan wrote:Danny rose, the mediocre striker that scored more goals than anyone else in a stags shirt last year. he was nearly our 20 goal a season man too.


Bobby, go on all you like he scored 14 league goals so nowhere "nearly" 20. Kane Hemmings scored more league goals yet we've not pursued him and Kane had a far superior all round game!!
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:31 am

mediocre is harsh, Spencer was mediocre if not worse. Rose was our best striker, or second best as you say
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby marker_mtfc95 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:33 am

How can people seriously want to see Rose go ? Absolutely stupid, who would they rather have than him, that would realistically come to the club ?
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby Big yella » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:45 am

bobbystagsfan wrote:Danny rose, the mediocre striker that scored more goals than anyone else in a stags shirt last year. he was nearly our 20 goal a season man too.

Wagstaff, Clarke, Moss, Stant, Whitehall, Greenacre, Barker, Green and that is just a 20 second scan of my memory.

Rose is definitely only in the mediocre list of Stags strikers.
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby MTFCMusings » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:57 am

Big yella wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:Danny rose, the mediocre striker that scored more goals than anyone else in a stags shirt last year. he was nearly our 20 goal a season man too.

Wagstaff, Clarke, Moss, Stant, Whitehall, Greenacre, Barker, Green and that is just a 20 second scan of my memory.

Rose is definitely only in the mediocre list of Stags strikers.


That would be the Matt Green who scored less goals than Rose last season? Green is a club legend for what he did in the conference, but that doesn't mean he is a better player.
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby Stags 2002 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:59 am

Stag95 wrote:People forget how much he carried us the first half of the season. Everyone was absolutely delighted when he signed a new deal. He has been doing rehabilitation work in pre-season so maybe he was carrying a knock through the last few months but had to carry on playing because the rest of our forwards couldn't buy a goal between them?


I don't think he "carried us" as it took until mid September to find form but there is a direct correlation between his goal scoring form and our results however the same could equally said regarding Alex MacDonald regarding form.

Rose was struggling early doors hence why he was dropped to the bench until the Lincoln away game when he came on and scored within 3 minutes. Interestingly also MacDonalds first start.

He then went on a purple patch until Evans departure which as we all know also coincided with MacDonalds drop in form.

For me the two most important attacking players we have, they play well we likely win - struggle for form and we struggle as a team.

Despite how the season ended our start last season put us on the back foot and we were always playing catch-up.
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:00 pm

Big yella wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:Danny rose, the mediocre striker that scored more goals than anyone else in a stags shirt last year. he was nearly our 20 goal a season man too.

Wagstaff, Clarke, Moss, Stant, Whitehall, Greenacre, Barker, Green and that is just a 20 second scan of my memory.

Rose is definitely only in the mediocre list of Stags strikers.



Ross dyer, Jimmy Spencer, Chris Beardsley, pat hoban, billy kee, vadaine oliver, Ollie palmer were mediocre.


Not rose
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby MTFCMusings » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:04 pm

Stags 2002 wrote:
Stag95 wrote:People forget how much he carried us the first half of the season. Everyone was absolutely delighted when he signed a new deal. He has been doing rehabilitation work in pre-season so maybe he was carrying a knock through the last few months but had to carry on playing because the rest of our forwards couldn't buy a goal between them?


I don't think he "carried us" as it took until mid September to find form but there is a direct correlation between his goal scoring form and our results however the same could equally said regarding Alex MacDonald regarding form.

Rose was struggling early doors hence why he was dropped to the bench until the Lincoln away game when he came on and scored within 3 minutes. Interestingly also MacDonalds first start.

He then went on a purple patch until Evans departure which as we all know also coincided with MacDonalds drop in form.

For me the two most important attacking players we have, they play well we likely win - struggle for form and we struggle as a team.

Despite how the season ended our start last season put us on the back foot and we were always playing catch-up.


And who was carrying us through those opening weeks? A certain Lee Angol. 4 goals in the first 8 games when he was actually starting.
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby cassellswasmagic » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:19 pm

Stag95 wrote:
cassellswasmagic wrote:
Stag95 wrote:
cassellswasmagic wrote:I like Rose but he’s not worth 500k, nearer the 200k mark at best imo. Hope we keep him though.

He's worth whatever the buying club are willing to pay and there's no way Radford will sell any of our main men for less than half a mil.

Wrong imo mate.
Neymar isn’t worth 200 Million, only the idiotic clubs blowing their money have over inflated their worth.

That's exactly my point, a player is worth as much as a club is willing to pay. Football is too fluid to say a player is worth X amount, especially when a player's worth for one team might be 10 times more useful for another.

I do see where you’re coming from ‘95. Opinions hey, let’s just say I value him at that, which I think is s good amount for him really. Anyway who cares, IT’S COMING HOME!!!
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby Amber Andy » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:58 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
Big yella wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:Danny rose, the mediocre striker that scored more goals than anyone else in a stags shirt last year. he was nearly our 20 goal a season man too.

Wagstaff, Clarke, Moss, Stant, Whitehall, Greenacre, Barker, Green and that is just a 20 second scan of my memory.

Rose is definitely only in the mediocre list of Stags strikers.



Ross dyer, Jimmy Spencer, Chris Beardsley, pat hoban, billy kee, vadaine oliver, Ollie palmer were mediocre.


Not rose

I agree. We have had better, but mediocre, no.

If we sold him for £200k and used the money for a replacement, chances are we would be worse off.
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Re: Players Released & Transferred 2018-2019

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:04 pm

200k would barely get you a 10 goal a season striker with the way the transfer market is at the moment. And we don't usually play fees for players do we? I hope rose stays anyway, as a starter or a sub he'll be ten times better than Spencer or sterling-james was coming off the bench .
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