EdwinstoweStag wrote:The unadulterated hatred-driven bile that some people spew out regarding Chesterfield is neither appropriate, nor clever.
I am no fan of the Crooked Steeples, but find some of what is written by Stags fans to be embarrassing.
Mind you, some of the dreadful vocal output from the fellas who sit behind me in IGU is as bad, if not worse.
newboldsteve wrote:
hahaha I wish Mansfield no harm I like to see all local clubs in the same league nothing better than a good derby match and the more the merrier
Random Hero wrote:newboldsteve wrote:
hahaha I wish Mansfield no harm I like to see all local clubs in the same league nothing better than a good derby match and the more the merrier
The feeling is mutual.
That doesn't mean, however, that I wouldn't take pleasure in seeing you take a couple of seasons in the Conference. We had to endure it, why shouldn't you?
whipster221073 wrote:If any individual on here doesn't share the view that there would be no tears if Chesterfield were to go bust, may i kindly request Martin or one of the other MODS digs out one of the threads from the archives from the week we were relegated from the Football League.
The abuse and delight with which their fans came on this board and gloated will stay with me for a long long time.
I only feel sorry for the employees like the tea lady and the kit man.
The players will move on. The owner and directors will go back to their other businesses. The fans can get back to supporting their 'other' teams in Sheffiled.
And we can sit back knowing karma has struck again.
I don't know if that is an urban myth Steve. However, for the majority of teams to progress they need investment. Your club not so very long ago were on the verge of the Championship under Cook. A little more investment you would have made it. At the same time we were struggling to stay in the football league, mainly because of a reduced player budget. Our current manager some how kept us up. If you had gone up and we had been relegated there would have been three leagues between us. Even now that prospect makes me shudder. How times have changed.newboldsteve wrote:arsene wengers coat wrote:adamstag wrote:No doubt i'll kop a lot of critisism here, but wishing another club to go to the wall, (even it's Chesterfield) is poor form.
Would I love them to struggle, go down to the conference and fall on their arse - yes.
Going to the wall, absolutely not.
What if they had unpaid tax bills of millions - you know, the same kind of tax that we all scream out for the banks, Google, Amazon and Facebook to pay? What if they failed to pay their players and backroom staff and started rattling buckets outside field mill on a match day?
I agree with not WANTING them to go under, that's why I said it earlier. I don't WANT them to go under, but like a previous poster said, clubs need to play by the rules, not only of football, but also the overarching laws of the land. Iknow it hasnt necessarily got to that yet, but Rushden and Diamonds went under for about £250k.
I do wish that HMRC would clamp down on football clubs being run so frivolously. Their business model stinks - it just relies on the sale of assets each season. Eventually the assets will run out, they'll get relegated, they'll sell the ground and become tenants, supporters will vote with their feet, debt will spiral and HMRC will follow. We saw it play out this way at Mansfield, only we had a crook in charge, who wanted to rinse us. Over there, they have been architects of their own demise.
If I eventually change my mind about them going tits up, it wont be because they are the Spireites, but because their owners/board have created a business that simply doesn't work. And this is grossly unfair on clubs such as ourselves who trying so valiantly to run on a sustainable balance sheet.
lol you are all very bitter and you do make me laugh do you no remember how you got out of the conference by being bankrolled by Radford he was paying in 100k a month to the tune of 5 million . but you forgot that bit didn't you anyway good luck with the rest of the season. just so you don't worry we will be fine
ParisStag wrote:Random Hero wrote:newboldsteve wrote:
hahaha I wish Mansfield no harm I like to see all local clubs in the same league nothing better than a good derby match and the more the merrier
The feeling is mutual.
That doesn't mean, however, that I wouldn't take pleasure in seeing you take a couple of seasons in the Conference. We had to endure it, why shouldn't you?
It would do them the world of good. They love to boast about being in a higher division more than us in recent years and having higher gates, but a stint on the murky depths would soon put an end to all that, along with their superiority complex.
Amber Andy wrote:I don't know if that is an urban myth Steve. However, for the majority of teams to progress they need investment. Your club not so very long ago were on the verge of the Championship under Cook. A little more investment you would have made it. At the same time we were struggling to stay in the football league, mainly because of a reduced player budget. Our current manager some how kept us up. If you had gone up and we had been relegated there would have been three leagues between us. Even now that prospect makes me shudder. How times have changed.newboldsteve wrote:arsene wengers coat wrote:adamstag wrote:No doubt i'll kop a lot of critisism here, but wishing another club to go to the wall, (even it's Chesterfield) is poor form.
Would I love them to struggle, go down to the conference and fall on their arse - yes.
Going to the wall, absolutely not.
What if they had unpaid tax bills of millions - you know, the same kind of tax that we all scream out for the banks, Google, Amazon and Facebook to pay? What if they failed to pay their players and backroom staff and started rattling buckets outside field mill on a match day?
I agree with not WANTING them to go under, that's why I said it earlier. I don't WANT them to go under, but like a previous poster said, clubs need to play by the rules, not only of football, but also the overarching laws of the land. Iknow it hasnt necessarily got to that yet, but Rushden and Diamonds went under for about £250k.
I do wish that HMRC would clamp down on football clubs being run so frivolously. Their business model stinks - it just relies on the sale of assets each season. Eventually the assets will run out, they'll get relegated, they'll sell the ground and become tenants, supporters will vote with their feet, debt will spiral and HMRC will follow. We saw it play out this way at Mansfield, only we had a crook in charge, who wanted to rinse us. Over there, they have been architects of their own demise.
If I eventually change my mind about them going tits up, it wont be because they are the Spireites, but because their owners/board have created a business that simply doesn't work. And this is grossly unfair on clubs such as ourselves who trying so valiantly to run on a sustainable balance sheet.
lol you are all very bitter and you do make me laugh do you no remember how you got out of the conference by being bankrolled by Radford he was paying in 100k a month to the tune of 5 million . but you forgot that bit didn't you anyway good luck with the rest of the season. just so you don't worry we will be fine
Thanks for that. I think Donny will go up,not sure about us and County. As for John Radford, we owe him a lot. I dread to think what would have happened if he had not come along. Probably be where Darlington and Halifax are now.newboldsteve wrote:Amber Andy wrote:I don't know if that is an urban myth Steve. However, for the majority of teams to progress they need investment. Your club not so very long ago were on the verge of the Championship under Cook. A little more investment you would have made it. At the same time we were struggling to stay in the football league, mainly because of a reduced player budget. Our current manager some how kept us up. If you had gone up and we had been relegated there would have been three leagues between us. Even now that prospect makes me shudder. How times have changed.newboldsteve wrote:arsene wengers coat wrote:adamstag wrote:No doubt i'll kop a lot of critisism here, but wishing another club to go to the wall, (even it's Chesterfield) is poor form.
Would I love them to struggle, go down to the conference and fall on their arse - yes.
Going to the wall, absolutely not.
What if they had unpaid tax bills of millions - you know, the same kind of tax that we all scream out for the banks, Google, Amazon and Facebook to pay? What if they failed to pay their players and backroom staff and started rattling buckets outside field mill on a match day?
I agree with not WANTING them to go under, that's why I said it earlier. I don't WANT them to go under, but like a previous poster said, clubs need to play by the rules, not only of football, but also the overarching laws of the land. Iknow it hasnt necessarily got to that yet, but Rushden and Diamonds went under for about £250k.
I do wish that HMRC would clamp down on football clubs being run so frivolously. Their business model stinks - it just relies on the sale of assets each season. Eventually the assets will run out, they'll get relegated, they'll sell the ground and become tenants, supporters will vote with their feet, debt will spiral and HMRC will follow. We saw it play out this way at Mansfield, only we had a crook in charge, who wanted to rinse us. Over there, they have been architects of their own demise.
If I eventually change my mind about them going tits up, it wont be because they are the Spireites, but because their owners/board have created a business that simply doesn't work. And this is grossly unfair on clubs such as ourselves who trying so valiantly to run on a sustainable balance sheet.
lol you are all very bitter and you do make me laugh do you no remember how you got out of the conference by being bankrolled by Radford he was paying in 100k a month to the tune of 5 million . but you forgot that bit didn't you anyway good luck with the rest of the season. just so you don't worry we will be fine
I dont have problem with investing in clubs but when one of your fans is moaning about town doing it less than 4 years after Radford got you out of the conference doing it I felt the need to put him straight not you normal fans or the club . and in all honesty if we manage to stay up I hope you get promotion along with Doncaster and notts county
Random Hero wrote: That doesn't mean, however, that I wouldn't take pleasure in seeing you take a couple of seasons in the Conference
newboldsteve wrote:ParisStag wrote:Random Hero wrote:newboldsteve wrote:
hahaha I wish Mansfield no harm I like to see all local clubs in the same league nothing better than a good derby match and the more the merrier
The feeling is mutual.
That doesn't mean, however, that I wouldn't take pleasure in seeing you take a couple of seasons in the Conference. We had to endure it, why shouldn't you?
It would do them the world of good. They love to boast about being in a higher division more than us in recent years and having higher gates, but a stint on the murky depths would soon put an end to all that, along with their superiority complex.
I'm not sure you get the whole derby thing
Beano wrote:I hope the fans chanting "one Keith Haslam" appreciate the irony and sheer karma of it all.
Personally I can't stop "lol ing"
ParisStag wrote:They've now lost 7 out of 8. Can't see them pulling themselves out of it this time.
HU7stag wrote:Also a big Spireites following of... 217! I think the sheep are finally loosing faith.
newboldsteve wrote:Amber Andy wrote:I don't know if that is an urban myth Steve. However, for the majority of teams to progress they need investment. Your club not so very long ago were on the verge of the Championship under Cook. A little more investment you would have made it. At the same time we were struggling to stay in the football league, mainly because of a reduced player budget. Our current manager some how kept us up. If you had gone up and we had been relegated there would have been three leagues between us. Even now that prospect makes me shudder. How times have changed.newboldsteve wrote:arsene wengers coat wrote:adamstag wrote:No doubt i'll kop a lot of critisism here, but wishing another club to go to the wall, (even it's Chesterfield) is poor form.
Would I love them to struggle, go down to the conference and fall on their arse - yes.
Going to the wall, absolutely not.
What if they had unpaid tax bills of millions - you know, the same kind of tax that we all scream out for the banks, Google, Amazon and Facebook to pay? What if they failed to pay their players and backroom staff and started rattling buckets outside field mill on a match day?
I agree with not WANTING them to go under, that's why I said it earlier. I don't WANT them to go under, but like a previous poster said, clubs need to play by the rules, not only of football, but also the overarching laws of the land. Iknow it hasnt necessarily got to that yet, but Rushden and Diamonds went under for about £250k.
I do wish that HMRC would clamp down on football clubs being run so frivolously. Their business model stinks - it just relies on the sale of assets each season. Eventually the assets will run out, they'll get relegated, they'll sell the ground and become tenants, supporters will vote with their feet, debt will spiral and HMRC will follow. We saw it play out this way at Mansfield, only we had a crook in charge, who wanted to rinse us. Over there, they have been architects of their own demise.
If I eventually change my mind about them going tits up, it wont be because they are the Spireites, but because their owners/board have created a business that simply doesn't work. And this is grossly unfair on clubs such as ourselves who trying so valiantly to run on a sustainable balance sheet.
lol you are all very bitter and you do make me laugh do you no remember how you got out of the conference by being bankrolled by Radford he was paying in 100k a month to the tune of 5 million . but you forgot that bit didn't you anyway good luck with the rest of the season. just so you don't worry we will be fine
I dont have problem with investing in clubs but when one of your fans is moaning about town doing it less than 4 years after Radford got you out of the conference doing it I felt the need to put him straight not you normal fans or the club . and in all honesty if we manage to stay up I hope you get promotion along with Doncaster and notts county
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