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Re: Tonights Games

Postby BH_Stag » Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:34 pm

Are there still people out there telling themselves that Evans isn’t a very good manager at this level?
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Cleveland_Stag » Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:40 pm

Evans is the best manager in this division and it’s not remotely close. What he’s done at Stevenage on a small budget with a team that looked destined to go down last season is remarkable.
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Dan » Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:46 pm

Walsall go above us with the 2-0 win at Donny. Stevenage win 5-0 and Newport score 5 minutes from time to win 2-1 at Crewe having been 1-0 down at half time.
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Amber Andy » Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:51 pm

Cleveland_Stag wrote:Evans is the best manager in this division and it’s not remotely close. What he’s done at Stevenage on a small budget with a team that looked destined to go down last season is remarkable.
He will be off to China soon :D
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Captain Cunno » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:42 pm

I dont think anyone can not rate his managerial skills.........his morals on the other hand.
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:57 am

Would we want him back.

A big NO from me.
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Walton Stag » Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:49 am

Amber Andy wrote:Would we want him back.

A big NO from me.


It’s a NO from me as well. Embarrassing man of the highest order.
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby bigalstag1 » Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:46 am

He's a better manager than Clough will ever be.
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Dan » Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:53 am

Amber Andy wrote:Would we want him back.

A big NO from me.


Yet you’d have the double failure back. :lol:
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby cassellswasmagic » Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:33 pm

As long as a manager gets us promoted…would we question their morals? Will Newcastle fans question their owners morals if they win the premier league? Evans does what he wants like most of us when it comes to work…we look after number one. I’d have him back if it took us up. Just my opinion, but as a fan starved of success…I want some before I’m gone!!!
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:51 pm

cassellswasmagic wrote:As long as a manager gets us promoted…would we question their morals? Will Newcastle fans question their owners morals if they win the premier league? Evans does what he wants like most of us when it comes to work…we look after number one. I’d have him back if it took us up. Just my opinion, but as a fan starved of success…I want some before I’m gone!!!
No not his morals. I would however, question his commitment to MTFC. He wasn't bothered two hoots about getting us over the line. Despite all the riches the Radfords afforded him, he walked out on us at a crucial time.
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby cassellswasmagic » Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:59 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
cassellswasmagic wrote:As long as a manager gets us promoted…would we question their morals? Will Newcastle fans question their owners morals if they win the premier league? Evans does what he wants like most of us when it comes to work…we look after number one. I’d have him back if it took us up. Just my opinion, but as a fan starved of success…I want some before I’m gone!!!
No not his morals. I would however, question his commitment to MTFC. He wasn't bothered two hoots about getting us over the line. Despite all the riches the Radfords afforded him, he walked out on us at a crucial time.

Totally agree…I could only have someone back if there were guarantees…but that’s impossible :lol: especially with him!!! Anyway, Clough will get us up this season or next hey!!!
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:23 pm

cassellswasmagic wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
cassellswasmagic wrote:As long as a manager gets us promoted…would we question their morals? Will Newcastle fans question their owners morals if they win the premier league? Evans does what he wants like most of us when it comes to work…we look after number one. I’d have him back if it took us up. Just my opinion, but as a fan starved of success…I want some before I’m gone!!!
No not his morals. I would however, question his commitment to MTFC. He wasn't bothered two hoots about getting us over the line. Despite all the riches the Radfords afforded him, he walked out on us at a crucial time.

Totally agree…I could only have someone back if there were guarantees…but that’s impossible :lol: especially with him!!! Anyway, Clough will get us up this season or next hey!!!
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cassellswasmagic wrote:As long as a manager gets us promoted…would we question their morals? Will Newcastle fans question their owners morals if they win the premier league? Evans does what he wants like most of us when it comes to work…we look after number one. I’d have him back if it took us up. Just my opinion, but as a fan starved of success…I want some before I’m gone!!!
No not his morals. I would however, question his commitment to MTFC. He wasn't bothered two hoots about getting us over the line. Despite all the riches the Radfords afforded him, he walked out on us at a crucial time.

Totally agree…I could only have someone back if there were guarantees…but that’s impossible :lol: especially with him!!! Anyway, Clough will get us up this season or next hey!!!
Hopefully. No guarantees though.
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby STAGS FOR LIFE » Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:40 pm

Crawley v Hartlepool k/o 7.45
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby wayno cordiniho » Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:31 pm

0-2 Hartlepool (Menayese and an OG) big win for them if they hold on
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:27 pm

Tom Nichols left out of last two Crawley squads as BH Stag pointed out to me the other day.
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby part time pete » Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:29 pm

wayno cordiniho wrote:0-2 Hartlepool (Menayese and an OG) big win for them if they hold on


They did hold on
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Calstag » Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:40 pm

part time pete wrote:
wayno cordiniho wrote:0-2 Hartlepool (Menayese and an OG) big win for them if they hold on


They did hold on


I can confirm they did win 0-2 and bagged 3 points
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Amber Andy » Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:51 pm

Calstag wrote:
part time pete wrote:
wayno cordiniho wrote:0-2 Hartlepool (Menayese and an OG) big win for them if they hold on


They did hold on


I can confirm they did win 0-2 and bagged 3 points
I hope they stay up at the expense of Colchester Utd and Gillingham.
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Martin Shaw » Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:44 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:Tom Nichols left out of last two Crawley squads as BH Stag pointed out to me the other day.

Reporter who covers Stevenage and Crawley told me today Nichols has signed for Colchester for £60k. Obviously can't join until January
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby georgefostersbeard » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:05 am

bigalstag1 wrote:He's a better manager than Clough will ever be.


Genuine question - statistically and record wise how does this bear out.
I thought that they had largely similar win percentages but happily wrong on this.
Clough has had quite a few cup runs and promotions so am I missing something?
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Suttonian » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:41 am

georgefostersbeard wrote:
bigalstag1 wrote:He's a better manager than Clough will ever be.


Genuine question - statistically and record wise how does this bear out.
I thought that they had largely similar win percentages but happily wrong on this.
Clough has had quite a few cup runs and promotions so am I missing something?


When Evans became manager he was claiming something like 9 promotions in his managerial career, Clough has had 2. The football wasn't very good under Evans IMO but he had a knack of getting wins. He looked capable of another promotion with us until he walked out

Evans 42.7 win%
Clough 40.8 win%
So pretty similar
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Dave Wayne » Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:11 am

Suttonian wrote:
georgefostersbeard wrote:
bigalstag1 wrote:He's a better manager than Clough will ever be.


Genuine question - statistically and record wise how does this bear out.
I thought that they had largely similar win percentages but happily wrong on this.
Clough has had quite a few cup runs and promotions so am I missing something?


When Evans became manager he was claiming something like 9 promotions in his managerial career, Clough has had 2. The football wasn't very good under Evans IMO but he had a knack of getting wins. He looked capable of another promotion with us until he walked out

Evans 42.7 win%
Clough 40.8 win%
So pretty similar

I always find it strange that nobody can ever list these 9 promotions he claims though.
Best I can find is :
Stamford - United Counties Premier 1997/98
Boston - Southern League 1999/2000
Boston - Conference 2001/02
Crawley - Conference 2010/11
Rotherham - League 2 2012/13
Rotherham - League 1 2013/14

So I make it 6 unless anyone can add any others ?

Stamford won the United Counties in 96/97 as well but were not allowed promotion as the ground was below standard so I guess he classes that as a 'promotion'.
Also, Crawley were promoted in 2011/12 after he walked out in April (familiar :roll: ) so I assume his ego is also claiming that one as his.

That takes it up to 8 at best, but on the other side of the coin, the 2 at Boston were both done with 'contract irregularities' so it could be as few as 4 'legal' promotions.
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Rob » Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:25 am

Dave Wayne wrote:
Suttonian wrote:
georgefostersbeard wrote:
bigalstag1 wrote:He's a better manager than Clough will ever be.


Genuine question - statistically and record wise how does this bear out.
I thought that they had largely similar win percentages but happily wrong on this.
Clough has had quite a few cup runs and promotions so am I missing something?


When Evans became manager he was claiming something like 9 promotions in his managerial career, Clough has had 2. The football wasn't very good under Evans IMO but he had a knack of getting wins. He looked capable of another promotion with us until he walked out

Evans 42.7 win%
Clough 40.8 win%
So pretty similar

I always find it strange that nobody can ever list these 9 promotions he claims though.
Best I can find is :
Stamford - United Counties Premier 1997/98
Boston - Southern League 1999/2000
Boston - Conference 2001/02
Crawley - Conference 2010/11
Rotherham - League 2 2012/13
Rotherham - League 1 2013/14

So I make it 6 unless anyone can add any others ?

Stamford won the United Counties in 96/97 as well but were not allowed promotion as the ground was below standard so I guess he classes that as a 'promotion'.
Also, Crawley were promoted in 2011/12 after he walked out in April (familiar :roll: ) so I assume his ego is also claiming that one as his.

That takes it up to 8 at best, but on the other side of the coin, the 2 at Boston were both done with 'contract irregularities' so it could be as few as 4 'legal' promotions.


He has 2 league promotions where he was given an enormous wage budget. He is doing a good job at Stevenage, a club I loathed before he even went there, but it won't last. He'll either walk out for a better offer, fall out with the owner or results will start to worsen and he'll get the sack again. He has proven he can only manage when he has a huge financial advantage over his competitors, when he hasn't had that (Leeds, Peterborough, Gillingham) he has failed. I don't get the manlove some on here have for this odious individual.
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Re: Tonights Games

Postby Captain Cunno » Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:36 am

If his team serve up more performances like his did yesterday they will tumble down the league
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