Nigel Clough; Orient post match

[Spiritater]

Good on TS for apologising.

Stupid mistake but we are entitled to do it once, if he repeats it, then its a problem.

As for Quinn, it is down right idiotic

You're not allowed to criticise Quinn according to bear or you'll be accused of Quinn bashing.

As said and Ill stand by it Quinn's action was premeditated stupidity. Ty's error was was not.

[gazza1988]

Good on TS for apologising.

Stupid mistake but we are entitled to do it once, if he repeats it, then its a problem.

As for Quinn, it is down right idiotic

For ty I don't really class it as a mistake. I class it as a human reaction. Shoved to the ground from behind and then dragged by his leg. What's he supposed to do? just let himself be dragged around a football pitch?

It's easy to say he shouldn't have done it, their lad shouldn't have dragged him. If he hands dragged him he wouldn't have kicked out. I wonder if he will get a ban, their player, I mean.

[Beyond The Pale]

Good on TS for apologising.

Stupid mistake but we are entitled to do it once, if he repeats it, then its a problem.

As for Quinn, it is down right idiotic

For ty I don't really class it as a mistake. I class it as a human reaction. Shoved to the ground from behind and then dragged by his leg. What's he supposed to do? just let himself be dragged around a football pitch?

It's easy to say he shouldn't have done it, their lad shouldn't have dragged him. If he hands dragged him he wouldn't have kicked out. I wonder if he will get a ban, their player, I mean.

I don’t think the player who had hold of Sinclair even got a booking? Ridiculous, especially when his actions led to a melee & resulted in bookings for numerous other players.

[bobbystagsfan]

Good on TS for apologising.

Stupid mistake but we are entitled to do it once, if he repeats it, then its a problem.

As for Quinn, it is down right idiotic

For ty I don't really class it as a mistake. I class it as a human reaction. Shoved to the ground from behind and then dragged by his leg. What's he supposed to do? just let himself be dragged around a football pitch?

It's easy to say he shouldn't have done it, their lad shouldn't have dragged him. If he hands dragged him he wouldn't have kicked out. I wonder if he will get a ban, their player, I mean.

I don’t think the player who had hold of Sinclair even got a booking? Ridiculous, especially when his actions led to a melee & resulted in bookings for numerous other players.

Seems like every other team is doing it to try and gain an advantage. Doing stuff that somehow isn't noticed by refs and then goading other players into getting sent off.

[Martin Shaw]

Good on TS for apologising.

Stupid mistake but we are entitled to do it once, if he repeats it, then its a problem.

As for Quinn, it is down right idiotic

For ty I don't really class it as a mistake. I class it as a human reaction. Shoved to the ground from behind and then dragged by his leg. What's he supposed to do? just let himself be dragged around a football pitch?

It's easy to say he shouldn't have done it, their lad shouldn't have dragged him. If he hands dragged him he wouldn't have kicked out. I wonder if he will get a ban, their player, I mean.

I think Archibald should have been booked. But he wasn't. He certainly won't get a ban.

[gazza1988]

In my view he should. If we want to get technical in Ty's case its self defence. He grabbed him against his will and dragged him. He had every right to defend himself.

That's players actions caused handbags which could have escalated into a full on brawl. The FA should do more to target the instigators. Had ne not dragged him then there's no kick, and no handbags. He should have been carded for the shove and carded again for the drag.

[Amber Andy]

Maybe if Ty had not reacted in the way he did the Orient player would have been booked. Ty's reaction probably took the official's attention away from the original offence. The baying crowd could also have been an influence on the official. Shouldn't happen, but it does.

[bear 73]

Good on TS for apologising.

Stupid mistake but we are entitled to do it once, if he repeats it, then its a problem.

As for Quinn, it is down right idiotic

For ty I don't really class it as a mistake. I class it as a human reaction. Shoved to the ground from behind and then dragged by his leg. What's he supposed to do? just let himself be dragged around a football pitch?

It's easy to say he shouldn't have done it, their lad shouldn't have dragged him. If he hands dragged him he wouldn't have kicked out. I wonder if he will get a ban, their player, I mean.

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Ty did not make a mistake, it was a normal human reaction, he was dragged by the left leg, what could he do, he was being dragged around the football pitch.
Clough got it wrong, the ref definitely got it wrong,, On this evidence we must appeal, and i look forward to him being in the team against Barrow.
Quinn was punished for being stupid, Both got sent off for kicking a opponent, both got a 3 match ban, no excuses

[MTFCMusings]

Good on TS for apologising.

Stupid mistake but we are entitled to do it once, if he repeats it, then its a problem.

As for Quinn, it is down right idiotic

For ty I don't really class it as a mistake. I class it as a human reaction. Shoved to the ground from behind and then dragged by his leg. What's he supposed to do? just let himself be dragged around a football pitch?

It's easy to say he shouldn't have done it, their lad shouldn't have dragged him. If he hands dragged him he wouldn't have kicked out. I wonder if he will get a ban, their player, I mean.

.,
Ty did not make a mistake, it was a normal human reaction, he was dragged by the left leg, what could he do, he was being dragged around the football pitch.
Clough got it wrong, the ref definitely got it wrong,, On this evidence we must appeal, and i look forward to him being in the team against Barrow.
Quinn was punished for being stupid, Both got sent off for kicking a opponent, both got a 3 match ban, no excuses

When the players comes out and admits what he done, what possible chance have you got with an appeal?

It was stupid by Ty, he's apologised. We move on.

[bear 73]

P-S Quinns further 3 points was for a head butt, taking losing control to a new level

[Amber Andy]

Good on TS for apologising.

Stupid mistake but we are entitled to do it once, if he repeats it, then its a problem.

As for Quinn, it is down right idiotic

For ty I don't really class it as a mistake. I class it as a human reaction. Shoved to the ground from behind and then dragged by his leg. What's he supposed to do? just let himself be dragged around a football pitch?

It's easy to say he shouldn't have done it, their lad shouldn't have dragged him. If he hands dragged him he wouldn't have kicked out. I wonder if he will get a ban, their player, I mean.

.,
Ty did not make a mistake, it was a normal human reaction, he was dragged by the left leg, what could he do, he was being dragged around the football pitch.
Clough got it wrong, the ref definitely got it wrong,, On this evidence we must appeal, and i look forward to him being in the team against Barrow.
Quinn was punished for being stupid, Both got sent off for kicking a opponent, both got a 3 match ban, no excuses

After becoming untangled, Ty appeared to kick out at the player. That's why he got sent off. I think the only thing the official got wrong was not booking the Orient player for the original foul.

[Sedgwick]

Good on TS for apologising.

Stupid mistake but we are entitled to do it once, if he repeats it, then its a problem.

As for Quinn, it is down right idiotic

For ty I don't really class it as a mistake. I class it as a human reaction. Shoved to the ground from behind and then dragged by his leg. What's he supposed to do? just let himself be dragged around a football pitch?

It's easy to say he shouldn't have done it, their lad shouldn't have dragged him. If he hands dragged him he wouldn't have kicked out. I wonder if he will get a ban, their player, I mean.

.,
Ty did not make a mistake, it was a normal human reaction, he was dragged by the left leg, what could he do, he was being dragged around the football pitch.
Clough got it wrong, the ref definitely got it wrong,, On this evidence we must appeal, and i look forward to him being in the team against Barrow.
Quinn was punished for being stupid, Both got sent off for kicking a opponent, both got a 3 match ban, no excuses

He did make a mistake... kicking their player. Doesn't matter if their lad was holding his leg, he was stupid enough to retaliate. Theres no appeal, theres no other view to it.

[Bradders]

Good on TS for apologising.

Stupid mistake but we are entitled to do it once, if he repeats it, then its a problem.

As for Quinn, it is down right idiotic

For ty I don't really class it as a mistake. I class it as a human reaction. Shoved to the ground from behind and then dragged by his leg. What's he supposed to do? just let himself be dragged around a football pitch?

It's easy to say he shouldn't have done it, their lad shouldn't have dragged him. If he hands dragged him he wouldn't have kicked out. I wonder if he will get a ban, their player, I mean.

.,
Ty did not make a mistake, it was a normal human reaction, he was dragged by the left leg, what could he do, he was being dragged around the football pitch.
Clough got it wrong, the ref definitely got it wrong,, On this evidence we must appeal, and i look forward to him being in the team against Barrow.
Quinn was punished for being stupid, Both got sent off for kicking a opponent, both got a 3 match ban, no excuses

He did make a mistake... kicking their player. Doesn't matter if their lad was holding his leg, he was stupid enough to retaliate. Theres no appeal, theres no other view to it.

I don't think that he actually kicked the player who was dragging him by his leg. The player let go as Ty struggled, and he kicked out as it was freed. The linesman was unsighted, and from his position he'd have only seen Ty's foot fly up, and the reaction of the Orient player would have led him to believe that Ty had actually made contact. Yes, Ty struggled in a petulant way, but who wouldn't, under the circumstances. I don't see any point in appealing though, if Ty has been obliged to apologise.

Perhaps it's time that Stags players learnt how to hold an opponent on the blind side of the officials and then roll about in agony. It seems to be an effective tactic.

[gazza1988]

Who said anything about appealing? I merely suggested action should be taken against the perpetrator.

[Martin Shaw]

Who said anything about appealing? I merely suggested action should be taken against the perpetrator.

bear 73.

We certainly won't be appealing, nor should we.

[gazza1988]

Who said anything about appealing? I merely suggested action should be taken against the perpetrator.

bear 73.

We certainly won't be appealing, nor should we.

Ah I read it wrong. I thought he was suggesting I wanted to appeal.