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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:16 pm

part time pete wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:The covenant was removed when Field Mill was 'rebuilt' I'm absolutely sure about this board being quite militant about it back in the day. It's how Haslam gained ownership of it, isn't it?

Perhaps time is getting the better of my memory again.

But your thinking is exactly mine Rob. Field Mill is a pale shadow of what it was. Like an old classic car that you love but now looks like it's been left under a tree, unmoved for too many winters.


I am sure the covenant has been bought out, but I think the biggest stumbling block is that Haslam had a clause in the sale to JR, that uncle Keith would get 50% of any sale.


If that's true, and I have no reason to doubt a chap like you Pete, then that closes that argument flat dead.
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby Sneag » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:17 pm

adamstag wrote:Where else could the club go where they’d be so local to to attract fans, would be a disaster for me


Manor Park, I could walk it then. :D
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby Costastag » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:18 pm

Richard Cranium wrote:Can we take the Padel board complex with us

We will need paddles :D
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby Rob » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:21 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
part time pete wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:The covenant was removed when Field Mill was 'rebuilt' I'm absolutely sure about this board being quite militant about it back in the day. It's how Haslam gained ownership of it, isn't it?

Perhaps time is getting the better of my memory again.

But your thinking is exactly mine Rob. Field Mill is a pale shadow of what it was. Like an old classic car that you love but now looks like it's been left under a tree, unmoved for too many winters.


I am sure the covenant has been bought out, but I think the biggest stumbling block is that Haslam had a clause in the sale to JR, that uncle Keith would get 50% of any sale.


If that's true, and I have no reason to doubt a chap like you Pete, then that closes that argument flat dead.


I'd imagine that's 50% of the profit from the sale, so whatever the club gets over and above what JR paid Haslam for it. I don't know what the land would be worth so that may or may not be an issue.
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby oldweststander » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:24 pm

Oh dear, another rain effected topic.

Water on the brain maybe?
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby HitchcocksShins » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:28 pm

oldweststander wrote:Oh dear, another rain effected topic.


Anyone would think it's been raining :lol:
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:49 pm

Sneag wrote:
adamstag wrote:Where else could the club go where they’d be so local to to attract fans, would be a disaster for me


Manor Park, I could walk it then. :D


Could you imagine the traffic through Wudhus?
However, wouldn't effect me or thee pal, where do we sign up for this?!
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby Spiritater » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:54 pm

The old Bevercotes site is still free.
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby Tess Tickle » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:00 pm

Spiritater wrote:The old Bevercotes site is still free.

Where ?
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby yorkshire stag » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:29 pm

part time pete wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:The covenant was removed when Field Mill was 'rebuilt' I'm absolutely sure about this board being quite militant about it back in the day. It's how Haslam gained ownership of it, isn't it?

Perhaps time is getting the better of my memory again.

But your thinking is exactly mine Rob. Field Mill is a pale shadow of what it was. Like an old classic car that you love but now looks like it's been left under a tree, unmoved for too many winters.


I am sure the covenant has been bought out, but I think the biggest stumbling block is that Haslam had a clause in the sale to JR, that uncle Keith would get 50% of any sale.


that’s my recollection too pete, if I remember right, I think it was 25 years. If it was used for any other reason than to play football, he got a half of the sale, for me field Mill is my spiritual home, and I couldn’t really think of watching the stags anywhere else.
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:36 pm

Spiritater wrote:The old Bevercotes site is still free.


I’m not surprised.
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby scotsstag » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:15 pm

Spiritater wrote:The old Bevercotes site is still free.

What pit? where Lound Hall was?
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby Bros » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:18 pm

We could go to the Clipstone colliery site. The headstocks will make a great TV gantry and as Clippo never get cancelled because of wet weather the ground must be ideal for a football pitch :D
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby bigalstag1 » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:25 pm

Level off the practise pitch behind the west stand, and rebuild there. Some parts of the stadium, as it is, could then be used in the rebuild.
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby MansfieldMick » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:27 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
Sneag wrote:
adamstag wrote:Where else could the club go where they’d be so local to to attract fans, would be a disaster for me


Manor Park, I could walk it then. :D


Could you imagine the traffic through Wudhus?
However, wouldn't effect me or thee pal, where do we sign up for this?!

Got my support, 5 minutes walk every home game.
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:49 pm

How long does it take to build a new stadium these days?
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby Spiritater » Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:24 am

bobbystagsfan wrote:How long does it take to build a new stadium these days?

Everton's is about 3 years in now
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby stagmanrob » Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:30 am

Spiritater wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:How long does it take to build a new stadium these days?

Everton's is about 3 years in now

They've had to fill in a whole dock of water to lay the foundations first, plus it is a 60,000 seater.

I think a new one for the type of size we would need should be considerably less.

It will never happen anyway though.
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby oldweststander » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:30 am

stagmanrob wrote:
Spiritater wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:How long does it take to build a new stadium these days?

Everton's is about 3 years in now

They've had to fill in a whole dock of water to lay the foundations first, plus it is a 60,000 seater.

I think a new one for the type of size we would need should be considerably less.

It will never happen anyway though.


We won't need a new ground until we hit the Premier League and stay there.
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby trenty » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:46 am

Massive site 3 mile south of Mansfield on the old Rufford Colliery site just north of Rainworth
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby victor A block » Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:08 am

I'm a bit torn on this having gone to Field Mill for 40 odd years and it is in a good location in town for most supporters.

However there is no real match-day experience. Its a dump with several infrastructure issues. The main one being Bishop Street and the footprint left to redevelop it.
The toilet facilities, cramped, dirty, damp concourse and food offering leave a lot to be desired.
Sharpe promised to address this and didn't and the owners don't have to taste a charcoaled pie from the Algarve. Its just poor, very poor.

The current set up of only giving home fans 50% of the ground is losing the club money either from people not buying as they cant sit together or from impulse buyers on a Saturday morning being shut out due to the all ticket system. They are also losing out from a poor hospitality experience and no individual boxes. £££'s lost every home game. ( and no we don't need the "but we haven't sold out" argument. Its not valid.)

I think on balance I'd love to stay but if it isn't cost effective or possible to redevelop properly then we should look to move.
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby Costastag » Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:09 am

For what its worth i cant see us ever leaving our present site nor would I want us to unless it was as close to the town centre as field mill is
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby wink68 » Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:44 am

All these people moaning about the state of the ground re toilets, food etc obviously never ventured into the legendary North stand bogs back in the day. I think the size of the crowds have taken the board a little by surprise. Steve Hymas reads this board and understand the supporters concerns and JR has the money and desire to take the club forward. I'm sure things have been discussed from upgrading inside the stands we have to sorting the Bish. Mid season isn't exactly the time to do things. We are lucky to have such passionate owners and directors and I'm sure things will happen in the summer. Just be patient, these things take time.
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby Dave Wayne » Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:01 am

victor A block wrote:I'm a bit torn on this having gone to Field Mill for 40 odd years and it is in a good location in town for most supporters.

However there is no real match-day experience. Its a dump with several infrastructure issues. The main one being Bishop Street and the footprint left to redevelop it.
The toilet facilities, cramped, dirty, damp concourse and food offering leave a lot to be desired.
Sharpe promised to address this and didn't and the owners don't have to taste a charcoaled pie from the Algarve. Its just poor, very poor.

The current set up of only giving home fans 50% of the ground is losing the club money either from people not buying as they cant sit together or from impulse buyers on a Saturday morning being shut out due to the all ticket system. They are also losing out from a poor hospitality experience and no individual boxes. £££'s lost every home game. ( and no we don't need the "but we haven't sold out" argument. Its not valid.)

I think on balance I'd love to stay but if it isn't cost effective or possible to redevelop properly then we should look to move.

Perfect example of the "lies, damn lies, and statistics" there.
Being pedantic and including the derelict stand, then yes we have 2 out of 4 stands available for home fans, but the reality is that 80% of the capacity is available for us. Even putting a nominal figure of 2,000 on Bishop Street still leaves 65% of capacity for home fans.
Yes, I can agree with some of your views, but you totally undermine your own argument with that one comment.
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Re: Is It Time To Consider Moving Away From Field Mill?

Postby Clockworktarzan » Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:41 am

As I'm sure a lot of you did... I had a go on the Euro lottery on Friday.
£201 million. I didn't win... but it got me thinking.
As a die-hard Stags fan, I would have liked to provide some of my (non existent)
winnings, to improve our ground... or toward a new Stadium.
At least £50m or more.
I'm reading this thread with interest.
I love Field Mill. It means so much to so many of us.
I personally, would like to see the redevelopment of the site in it's entirety,
creating a new Stadium with all the commercial opportunities that would go
with it to generate revenue for the club.
Anyway... I shall keep crossing my fingers and doing the lottery when the
prize gets high again.
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