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19th September 2005 20:53

After kayoeing Championship side Stoke in the first round of the League Cup – without doubt one of the best Stags' results during the reign of recently resigned Carlton Palmer – the Stags got a fine reward – a home draw against Southampton, just relegated from the Premier League, in the 2nd round. And it will be the first game under new management for the Stags – and a good measure against another Championship side.

The sides have clashed in the League Cup before during this century. In the 2000-01 season, the sides clashed in the 2nd round as well, but thence the initial rounds were played over two legs. The Stags made the then Premiership side from the South Coast work very hard to go through, as the respectable scorelines show. A Saints' victory 2-0 at The Dell was followed by a 3-1 at Field Mill a week later.
The line-ups then: (at Southampton, September 20, 2000, exactly to the day five years ago!):

Southampton: Jones, Dodd, Bridge, Marsden (Oakley), Lundekvam, Richards (El Khalej), Tessem, Soltvedt, Beattie (Rösler), Le Tissier, Ripley.
Stags: Mimms, Asher, Andrews (Bacon), Hassell, Hicks (Williamson), Robinson, Corden (Boulding), Clarke, Williams, Blake, Greenacre. Southampton scorers: Tessem, Le Tissier. Attendance: 8802.

At Field Mill, September 26, 2000:

Stags: Mimms, Asher, Andrews (Bacon), Williams (Williamson); Hicks, Robinson, Corden (Hassell), Clarke, Boulding, Blake, Greenacre.
Saints: Jones, Dodd, Ashford (Bridge), Marsden, El Khalej (Lundekvam), Richards (Pahars), Le Tissier, Oakley, Rösler, Soltvedt, Bleidelis. Stags scorer: Clarke. Southampton scorers: Rösler, Soltvedt 2. Attendance: 3528.

And from the sides that clashed five years ago, only ONE player is still around – Lundekvam for Southampton.

The teams have also met in the League at Field Mill on three occasions. The last one of them, a 1-2 defeat in the old 2nd division on January 14, 1978, was in fact televized in Sweden! The programme was called Tipsextra with studio commentary due to some technical difficulties somewhere. (Originally, the First Division local derby between Derby County and Nottingham Forest should have been televized, but due to technical difficulties, the Stags v Southampton game was televized instead). No wonder, I watched that game!!!

The teams on January 14, 1978, lined up as follows:

Stags: Arnold, Bird (Cooke), Foster (B), Sharkey, Foster (C), Wood, Miller, Goodwin, Syrett, Hodgson, Phillips. Scorer: Syrett.
Southampton: Turner, Sharpe, Coak, Williams, Nicholl, Pickering, Ball, Boyer, MacDougall, Holmes, Waldron.
Scorers: Ball (pen), MacDougall. Attendance: 8673.

For the record, Ball was Alan Ball, MacDougall was Ted MacDougall and Nicholl was Chris Nicholl, who scored two goals and TWO own goals when playing for Aston Villa at Leicester in a Division One game on March 20, 1976.

The teams were in fact – a maybe not so well known one – inaugural members of the old Third Division way back in 1958-59. And the fixture list gave the Stags a home tie against Southampton on the opening day, August 23, 1958. But that was a day to forget for the Stags fans, as Southampton ran out 6-1 winners at Field Mill (Stags scorer Delapenha in front of 14038, yet finished in the bottom half. But in the following season, Southampton were Champions and the Stags were relegated for the first time ever. Yet revenge was gained on February 6, 1960. Then, the first win during Raich Carter's reign was achieved to a 4-2 scoreline in front of 7431, who saw Anderson, Delapenha, Hall and Fitzsimons contribute to the stunning victory. But at Southampton, the Stags have lost all their three league games there, the latest on August 27, 1977 due to a penalty converted by David Peach.

At the end of the 1977-78 season, Southampton were promoted to the highest level after finishing second, and remained in the top flight up to the last day of the 2004-05 season, 27 consecutive campaigns in which the best one was in 1983-84, finishing second behind Liverpool. When the sides clashed in the League cup five years ago, Southampton had a strong Norwegian connection, also having a player who did play in the German Bundesliga, Uwe Rösler. Last season, the Saints fielded three Swedish players. But Southampton have also had players on their books having played in Sweden – and in the previewer's home county. Ian Juryeff was one of them, another one was the current Port Vale manager Martin Foyle, both having played for the Swedish side IFK Munkfors. A third one is still in Sweden. Joe Blochel was on Southampton's books around the 1980-81 season but was later loaned out to Wimbledon (now called Milton Keynes Dons). Then, in 1982, he went to Sweden and played third division for now defunct IFK Arvika. Then played at the second level for Karlstad BK – and is now manager for Hertzöga BK in the Swedish Third Division, just on the outskirts of Karlstad.

Played for both sides: Shayne (gone in 60 seconds!) Bradley, Keith Cassells, Harry Howell, Dennis Jones, Ian Juryeff, Phil Kite, Carlton Palmer, Frank Perfect, Jack Roy, Allen Tankard, Sam Taylor, David Thompson, Danny Wallace. Frank Burrows, who played for the Stags on loan in 1974, was in the mid-eighties coach at Southampton, and John Sainty was assistant manager at The Dell in 1997.

League stats:

Home: P 3, W 1, D 0, L 2, GF 6, GA 10
Away: P 3, W 0, D 0, L 3, GF 4, GA 9

Season Home Date Away Date

1958-59 1-6 1958-08-23 2-3 1958-12-20
1959-60 4-2 1960-02-06 2-5 1959-09-19
1977-78 1-2 1978-01-14 0-1 1977-08-27 Div 2 (old)

League Cup

2000-01 0-2 2000-09-20 (2nd round, 1st leg at the Dell, Southampton)
2000-01 1-3 2005-09-26 (2nd round, 2nd leg at Field Mill)
Southampton through 5-1 on aggregate

Svante Bernhard aka Sweden Stag (pictured, above right)

Line-ups and scorers details on 1977-78 and 2000-01 games courtesy of Rothmans Football Yearbook, details on 1958-59 and 1959-60 Stags scorers courtesy of the centenary book


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