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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Sneag » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:34 am

EdwinstoweStag wrote:
Martin Shaw wrote:


Ah! Intelligence. Start applying some please.


Police intelligence = oxymoron


If idiots want to scrap, they will scrap regardless of kick off times.

All the changes to kick off times, home ends and routes to and from grounds do is unfairly penalise the 99% who go to watch a game of football & who don't behave like arseholes.

There has never been a proper explanation for why these changes occur, just a 'we know best, like it or lump it' attitude from Notts Police & SAG.

I've just wasted half an hour of my life emailing Paddy Tipping for an explanation of why Stags are singled out for this treatment. If he bothers to reply I'll post it here.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Bradders » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:55 pm

Sneag wrote:I've just wasted half an hour of my life emailing Paddy Tipping for an explanation of why Stags are singled out for this treatment. If he bothers to reply I'll post it here.

Well done, although like you I expect (at best) a diplomatic reply with no explanation of the logic behind the tactic or why Mansfield are particularly targeted for this treatment.
My attitude is that if you want people to cooperate fully with something that causes them nuisance, you need to get them on your side by convincing them using a logical argument. Perhaps there is one, it's just that I haven't heard it.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Dan » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:48 am

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What a load of crap. Best thing about it is that a load of Stags and Notts fans went to AFC Mansfield afterwards and there ended up being 5 police cars turn up after the game as there was a load of trouble in the welfare! Had they left it as a 3pm kick off that wouldn't have happened.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Marky Mark » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:22 am

Sneag wrote:
Jamie wrote:
Sneag wrote:
Jamie wrote:
Billy the fish wrote:Yep they could and away fans asked to stop in their seats for 10 mins after the final whistle.. nah nah never work that !! :?


But then home fans who exit via QL are mixing with away fans. This is how it used to be and it kicked off on a fairly regular basis.

Its funny how a few people on Stagsnet, annoyed that they have to walk a little further because a gate is closed think they know better than the police who are paid to ensure everyone is safe, and who have done a pretty good job in recent years of keeping the peace.


Just because a person in a psition of authority sayssomething or makes a decision, that doesn't make it automatically correct.

You should look up Milgram's electricution experiment. You'd have been frying people left & right just because the guy with the clipboard told you to. :lol:


But there approach is working. Hardly any trouble involving home fans at the Mill for years now.


I think if you compared the last 10 years since the end swap with the previous 10 years then I don't think it's made one iota of difference to the levels of crowd trouble.

The catalyst for the end change was trouble after the Donny game in 2004 which could have been averted just by keeping the Donny fans in 10 minutes. And to be perfectly honest even that level of trouble was piffling compared to what used to go off in the 70/80s.

The levels of segregation & crowd control measures are massively disproportionate to any issues we have now or have ever had in the past and are way OTT compared to anything I've seen at other grounds around the country.

Instead of passively accepting being treated like crap, take a look around and ask yourself is this in any way proportionate.


Went over to Hamburg a few weeks ago and caught a St Pauli game – people drinking and smoking all around and inside the ground, home fans and away fans sat apart but able to mingle in and outside of the ground. Fans with drums, massive flags and megaphones – 2 away fans sat on top of the barriers conducting the away fans singing and allowed to be there all game. 30,000 people and no hint of trouble – treat people like adults and 99% of them will behave like adults.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby sw19stag » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:26 am

Good job Forest and Sheff.Utd. have never had a history of any trouble otherwise
both games would have been a 1pm KO.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Barrel of the Best » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:48 pm

sw19stag wrote:Good job Forest and Sheff.Utd. have never had a history of any trouble otherwise
both games would have been a 1pm KO.

There is a long history between them and probably their biggest grudge match after Derby. But their games hardly ever get moved, unless Sky say so.
Maybe Gabbitas should get some tips off them on how to Police a crowd five times smaller without moving the kick off, closing public access and closing blocks of seats?

It's a complete joke.

What are they going to do if Stags reach the Championship, play behind closed doors? 7am kick-offs, close the town and board up every window?
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Spiritater » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:52 pm

Barrel of the Best wrote:
sw19stag wrote:Good job Forest and Sheff.Utd. have never had a history of any trouble otherwise
both games would have been a 1pm KO.

There is a long history between them and probably their biggest grudge match after Derby. But their games hardly ever get moved, unless Sky say so.
Maybe Gabbitas should get some tips off them on how to Police a crowd five times smaller without moving the kick off, closing public access and closing blocks of seats?

It's a complete joke.

What are they going to do if Stags reach the Championship, play behind closed doors? 7am kick-offs, close the town and board up every window?


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