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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby crazystagdad » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:00 pm

and dont they allow away fans to come through gate from west stand side thus meaning away and home mingling before game yet stop home fans doing same from retail park
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Billy the fish » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:35 pm

crazystagdad wrote:coaches could easily be filled right outside quarry lane could they not ?


Yep they could and away fans asked to stop in their seats for 10 mins after the final whistle.. nah nah never work that !! :?
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Mansf1eld » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:41 pm

Just wait till there's trouble on Nottingham road and someone runs infront of a car. Who will be blamed then? Wouldn't happen on quarry lane..
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby ironbru » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:10 pm

I also do not agree with cars in the one call car park moving before all supporters have left the west stand!
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Stags 2002 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:58 pm

ironbru wrote:I also do not agree with cars in the one call car park moving before all supporters have left the west stand!


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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby bobbystagsfan » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:10 pm

ironbru wrote:I also do not agree with cars in the one call car park moving before all supporters have left the west stand!



Causes havoc, can't remember who we played but fairly sure there was an old geezer and his mrs in a flash car almost running folk over to get out the car park.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Dan » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:25 pm

Don't they hold the cars back after the game now then? They did last season.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Grimsby game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Keep it Simple » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:33 am

adamstag wrote:What is this guy on? Are we playing at field mill or Afghanistan!



Killing people or blowing them up does not discrimate between kids at an Ariana Grande concert or Mansfield v Notts County.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Jamie » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:44 am

Billy the fish wrote:
crazystagdad wrote:coaches could easily be filled right outside quarry lane could they not ?


Yep they could and away fans asked to stop in their seats for 10 mins after the final whistle.. nah nah never work that !! :?


But then home fans who exit via QL are mixing with away fans. This is how it used to be and it kicked off on a fairly regular basis.

Its funny how a few people on Stagsnet, annoyed that they have to walk a little further because a gate is closed think they know better than the police who are paid to ensure everyone is safe, and who have done a pretty good job in recent years of keeping the peace.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Sneag » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:34 am

Jamie wrote:
Billy the fish wrote:
crazystagdad wrote:coaches could easily be filled right outside quarry lane could they not ?


Yep they could and away fans asked to stop in their seats for 10 mins after the final whistle.. nah nah never work that !! :?


But then home fans who exit via QL are mixing with away fans. This is how it used to be and it kicked off on a fairly regular basis.

Its funny how a few people on Stagsnet, annoyed that they have to walk a little further because a gate is closed think they know better than the police who are paid to ensure everyone is safe, and who have done a pretty good job in recent years of keeping the peace.


Just because a person in a psition of authority sayssomething or makes a decision, that doesn't make it automatically correct.

You should look up Milgram's electricution experiment. You'd have been frying people left & right just because the guy with the clipboard told you to. :lol:
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby oldweststander » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:40 am

Public safety is always paramount, just because the vast majority act sensibly and responsibly doesn't mean the authorities can relax.

Rather get home late than spend four hours in A and E.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Amber Andy » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:11 am

oldweststander wrote:Public safety is always paramount, just because the vast majority act sensibly and responsibly doesn't mean the authorities can relax.

Rather get home late than spend four hours in A and E.

I totally agree with that. My only concern is that, the measures of the gate and early ko may be a waste of time, because trouble is likely to flare up anyway. A case of the few idiot "fans" spoiling it for the rest of us.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby ironbru » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:50 am

Dan wrote:Don't they hold the cars back after the game now then? They did last season.


They do, but not for nearly long enough though.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Oak Tree Stag » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:23 am

Wouldn't it be a good idea to re-open the turnstiles on Bishop Street and make entry/exit to the Quarry Lane end from there? I would have thought that it's not beyond realistic to achieve. Bishop Street creates segregation by it's position, or is that just too simple?
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Spiritater » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:49 am

Structure's unsafe though. Just imagine if Mr County Councillor stubbed his toe on a loose bit of concrete it'd be all over the local press, pictures on the front page with him with glum face n pointing to his sore big toe.
SAG'd have to call an emergency meeting etc, etc.


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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Oak Tree Stag » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:11 pm

It would include having to spend some money on sweeping up loose bits of conny etc. With a bit of thought and planning the solution could be there; pre and post match segregation much easier to control, or am i being to simplistic?
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Amberheart » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:13 pm

Oak Tree Stag wrote:Wouldn't it be a good idea to re-open the turnstiles on Bishop Street and make entry/exit to the Quarry Lane end from there? I would have thought that it's not beyond realistic to achieve. Bishop Street creates segregation by it's position, or is that just too simple?

Good idea ! one for the future when the stand gets redeveloped
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby oldweststander » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:46 pm

Good idea re Bishop St, one for the back burner if the new stand/hotel are ever built.

Not something that could happen for now.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Jamie » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:58 pm

Sneag wrote:
Jamie wrote:
Billy the fish wrote:
crazystagdad wrote:coaches could easily be filled right outside quarry lane could they not ?


Yep they could and away fans asked to stop in their seats for 10 mins after the final whistle.. nah nah never work that !! :?


But then home fans who exit via QL are mixing with away fans. This is how it used to be and it kicked off on a fairly regular basis.

Its funny how a few people on Stagsnet, annoyed that they have to walk a little further because a gate is closed think they know better than the police who are paid to ensure everyone is safe, and who have done a pretty good job in recent years of keeping the peace.


Just because a person in a psition of authority sayssomething or makes a decision, that doesn't make it automatically correct.

You should look up Milgram's electricution experiment. You'd have been frying people left & right just because the guy with the clipboard told you to. :lol:


But there approach is working. Hardly any trouble involving home fans at the Mill for years now.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Amber Andy » Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:04 pm

Jamie wrote:
Sneag wrote:
Jamie wrote:
Billy the fish wrote:
crazystagdad wrote:coaches could easily be filled right outside quarry lane could they not ?


Yep they could and away fans asked to stop in their seats for 10 mins after the final whistle.. nah nah never work that !! :?


But then home fans who exit via QL are mixing with away fans. This is how it used to be and it kicked off on a fairly regular basis.

Its funny how a few people on Stagsnet, annoyed that they have to walk a little further because a gate is closed think they know better than the police who are paid to ensure everyone is safe, and who have done a pretty good job in recent years of keeping the peace.


Just because a person in a psition of authority sayssomething or makes a decision, that doesn't make it automatically correct.

You should look up Milgram's electricution experiment. You'd have been frying people left & right just because the guy with the clipboard told you to. :lol:


But there approach is working. Hardly any trouble involving home fans at the Mill for years now.
I have a feeling you may be tempting fate Jamie.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Sneag » Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:50 pm

Jamie wrote:
Sneag wrote:
Jamie wrote:
Billy the fish wrote:
crazystagdad wrote:coaches could easily be filled right outside quarry lane could they not ?


Yep they could and away fans asked to stop in their seats for 10 mins after the final whistle.. nah nah never work that !! :?


But then home fans who exit via QL are mixing with away fans. This is how it used to be and it kicked off on a fairly regular basis.

Its funny how a few people on Stagsnet, annoyed that they have to walk a little further because a gate is closed think they know better than the police who are paid to ensure everyone is safe, and who have done a pretty good job in recent years of keeping the peace.


Just because a person in a psition of authority sayssomething or makes a decision, that doesn't make it automatically correct.

You should look up Milgram's electricution experiment. You'd have been frying people left & right just because the guy with the clipboard told you to. :lol:


But there approach is working. Hardly any trouble involving home fans at the Mill for years now.


I think if you compared the last 10 years since the end swap with the previous 10 years then I don't think it's made one iota of difference to the levels of crowd trouble.

The catalyst for the end change was trouble after the Donny game in 2004 which could have been averted just by keeping the Donny fans in 10 minutes. And to be perfectly honest even that level of trouble was piffling compared to what used to go off in the 70/80s.

The levels of segregation & crowd control measures are massively disproportionate to any issues we have now or have ever had in the past and are way OTT compared to anything I've seen at other grounds around the country.

Instead of passively accepting being treated like crap, take a look around and ask yourself is this in any way proportionate.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Amberheart » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:32 pm

I think if you compared the last 10 years since the end swap with the previous 10 years then I don't think it's made one iota of difference to the levels of crowd trouble.

The catalyst for the end change was trouble after the Donny game in 2004 which could have been averted just by keeping the Donny fans in 10 minutes. And to be perfectly honest even that level of trouble was piffling compared to what used to go off in the 70/80s.

The levels of segregation & crowd control measures are massively disproportionate to any issues we have now or have ever had in the past and are way OTT compared to anything I've seen at other grounds around the country.

Instead of passively accepting being treated like crap, take a look around and ask yourself is this in any way proportionate.[/quote]
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Martin Shaw » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:55 am

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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby Bradders » Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:12 am

Martin Shaw wrote:

I'm not exactly sure why a 1pm kickoff helps so much. There seems to be an assumption that it's obvious and needs no explaining, but at Lincoln I really couldn't see what was gained. I arrived at 11 and although normally I don't bother going to the pub before the match, this time I went to get something to eat and had to put up with a very raucous (albeit good-natured) atmosphere. Obviously many Stags and Lincoln fans had already been in the pub for quite a while before then, and there must have been lots for whom the kickoff time meant that they'd go to the pub first.

Had the kickoff been at 3 I wouldn't have needed to find somewhere to eat first so could have gone straight to the ground. I was all very inconvenient, and for the wife a bit intimidating (she'd normally drop me off near the ground and then go into town).

I'm guessing that a 3 pm kickoff means that Notts fans will stay on in Mansfield after the match and spend the evening there. So moving to 1 o'clock means that they'll spend the morning drinking but then go home after the match - although I'm not sure that the troublemakers won't simply go into town anyway after the match and annoy the shoppers.

Obviously many other clubs aren't subject to this restriction on a frequent basis, so it has to be something uniquely Mansfield-related. I just haven't seen a reasonable explanation.
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Re: The Gabbitas Gate closed Clownty game 9 am - 3.30 pm

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:25 am

Martin Shaw wrote:


Ah! Intelligence. Start applying some please.
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