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So is his lack of wins.

Today was a good performance in the context of things, but his win record is the worst we’ve ever had for a manager.

If highlighting the worst record we’ve ever had with one of the biggest budgets in club history makes me boring then so be it. Keep clapping like simple seals

And if folk have a problem with it then well whatever.

Go and apply your “support” to another club, adamstag!

Just who the fl luck does Edwistowe Stag think he is exactly ?

[Big yella]

:D Club Record

And how many were wins flipflop.?

At least one, a very important one. The last time EVER we will have played the Spireites.

[Vicar Jeremiah]

So is his lack of wins.

Today was a good performance in the context of things, but his win record is the worst we’ve ever had for a manager.

If highlighting the worst record we’ve ever had with one of the biggest budgets in club history makes me boring then so be it. Keep clapping like simple seals

And if folk have a problem with it then well whatever.

Go and apply your “support” to another club, adamstag!

Just who the fl luck does Edwistowe Stag think he is exactly ?

He’s got to be on a wind up, nobody could be that obnoxious

[EdwinstoweStag]

So is his lack of wins.

Today was a good performance in the context of things, but his win record is the worst we’ve ever had for a manager.

If highlighting the worst record we’ve ever had with one of the biggest budgets in club history makes me boring then so be it. Keep clapping like simple seals

And if folk have a problem with it then well whatever.

Go and apply your “support” to another club, adamstag!

Just who the fl luck does Edwistowe Stag think he is exactly ?

He’s got to be on a wind up, nobody could be that obnoxious

Nope. Just a die-hard since ‘67/68 who is saddened by whingers and DF “bashers”

[Sneag]

So Edders, say for the sake argument, Flitters keeps up his current win ratio and continues to preside over an expensive squad sitting in the bottom half of Div 4. At what point do you concede that the 'whingers & bashers' were actually right all along?

And for the record, I'd like nothing more than to have egg all over my face in 6 months time as DF stears us to promotion.

[hucknallstag]

The infrastructure and ambition being shown constantly by the radford's isn't being shown in results on the field, the success they crave isn't looking likely at this present time, I honestly think DF is walking a very thin line at the mo

[Captain Cunno]

The infrastructure and ambition being shown constantly by the radford's isn't being shown in results on the field, the success they crave isn't looking likely at this present time, I honestly think DF is walking a very thin line at the mo

I disagree. I think JR is 100% behind like the rest of us should be until he is no longer our manager.

[Amber Andy]

I'm as disappointed as most. The thing is do we want to rip it up and start again? We may get lucky but most times we don't. I'm not a mathematician but what percentage of our managers have got us promotion? Very low is my guess.

The seeds are beginning to sprout. Some on here want to rip them out before they have blossomed and set new ones, in the hope they are quicker growing.

Money doesn't always buy success. It did when Coxie got us promoted but the rest of the time success was built from sound foundations.

Is DF the man to build this success ? I don't know but I think the signs are there. We are difficult to beat, I just hope he can take us to the next stage of winning on a regular basis.

COYS.

[EdwinstoweStag]

So Edders, say for the sake argument, Flitters keeps up his current win ratio and continues to preside over an expensive squad sitting in the bottom half of Div 4. At what point do you concede that the 'whingers & bashers' were actually right all along?

And for the record, I'd like nothing more than to have egg all over my face in 6 months time as DF stears us to promotion.

Its a valid question, Sneag. If he fails, he will have to be replaced. It’s the way of things.
I just think it’s too soon to write him off. I sincerely believe he is building the foundation of a successful team. I readily concede that the number of draws is frustrating, especially when you consider the times when with a little more luck (or application) we could have taken all three points.

Like most on this forum, I couldn’t do Flitcroft’s job and I am not qualified to set a “benchmark” beyond which we give the manager-merry-go-round another spin. Thankfully, that responsibly sits with Mr and Mrs Radford.

Like many, I have supported the Stags long enough to know that we have to be patient. Of course I want to see us succeed in the short-term (and if we do, there would be no need to waste eggs on your face), but I think the Club has never been in a better place to gain success - SUSTAINABLE success - in the medium-to-long term.

In the meantime, I prefer to support (rather than castigate) Flitcroft.

Keep the faith!

[spanishstag]

I believe in flitcroft ,and sincerely hope it comes good for us ,to be honest i think sacking him would set us back yet again ,i hope he gets till the end of the season if we keep being hard to beat and pick up a few wins ,which will surely come soon we will be not far off the play off places at xmas then hopefully in the january window there may be room for some investment ,easy for me to say its not my money ,of course i could be an optimist and we continue to struggle ,who really knows

[Rob]

So Edders, say for the sake argument, Flitters keeps up his current win ratio and continues to preside over an expensive squad sitting in the bottom half of Div 4. At what point do you concede that the 'whingers & bashers' were actually right all along?

And for the record, I'd like nothing more than to have egg all over my face in 6 months time as DF stears us to promotion.

So sacking him is the answer then, new man in, more players in and out, a full reset. Or do you go for the sensible approach, give the manager, who has lost two games all season (to WBA and Exeter) time to build and develop what he has. I'm not surprised at Adam, abc etc, but am at you, you're starting to sound a bit like a Man U fan.

[EdwinstoweStag]

So Edders, say for the sake argument, Flitters keeps up his current win ratio and continues to preside over an expensive squad sitting in the bottom half of Div 4. At what point do you concede that the 'whingers & bashers' were actually right all along?

And for the record, I'd like nothing more than to have egg all over my face in 6 months time as DF stears us to promotion.

So sacking him is the answer then, new man in, more players in and out, a full reset. Or do you go for the sensible approach, give the manager, who has lost two games all season (to WBA and Exeter) time to build and develop what he has. I'm not surprised at Adam, abc etc, but am at you, you're starting to sound a bit like a Man U fan.

that’s very harsh!

[Sneag]

So Edders, say for the sake argument, Flitters keeps up his current win ratio and continues to preside over an expensive squad sitting in the bottom half of Div 4. At what point do you concede that the 'whingers & bashers' were actually right all along?

And for the record, I'd like nothing more than to have egg all over my face in 6 months time as DF stears us to promotion.

So sacking him is the answer then, new man in, more players in and out, a full reset. Or do you go for the sensible approach, give the manager, who has lost two games all season (to WBA and Exeter) time to build and develop what he has. I'm not surprised at Adam, abc etc, but am at you, you're starting to sound a bit like a Man U fan.

The question for Edders & you if you'd care to give an answer, is how much time do you want him to have? At what point do you say this isn't working?

So far this season isn't a write off, far from it, but at some point the draws have to start being converted to wins. How is that so difficult to grasp?

[Sneag]

So Edders, say for the sake argument, Flitters keeps up his current win ratio and continues to preside over an expensive squad sitting in the bottom half of Div 4. At what point do you concede that the 'whingers & bashers' were actually right all along?

And for the record, I'd like nothing more than to have egg all over my face in 6 months time as DF stears us to promotion.

So sacking him is the answer then, new man in, more players in and out, a full reset. Or do you go for the sensible approach, give the manager, who has lost two games all season (to WBA and Exeter) time to build and develop what he has. I'm not surprised at Adam, abc etc, but am at you, you're starting to sound a bit like a Man U fan.

You sound like a Scotland fan, happy with failure year in year out.

[EdwinstoweStag]

So Edders, say for the sake argument, Flitters keeps up his current win ratio and continues to preside over an expensive squad sitting in the bottom half of Div 4. At what point do you concede that the 'whingers & bashers' were actually right all along?

And for the record, I'd like nothing more than to have egg all over my face in 6 months time as DF stears us to promotion.

So sacking him is the answer then, new man in, more players in and out, a full reset. Or do you go for the sensible approach, give the manager, who has lost two games all season (to WBA and Exeter) time to build and develop what he has. I'm not surprised at Adam, abc etc, but am at you, you're starting to sound a bit like a Man U fan.

The question for Edders & you if you'd care to give an answer, is how much time do you want him to have? At what point do you say this isn't working?

So far this season isn't a write off, far from it, but at some point the draws have to start being converted to wins. How is that so difficult to grasp?

Not less than the season

[Sneag]

So Edders, say for the sake argument, Flitters keeps up his current win ratio and continues to preside over an expensive squad sitting in the bottom half of Div 4. At what point do you concede that the 'whingers & bashers' were actually right all along?

And for the record, I'd like nothing more than to have egg all over my face in 6 months time as DF stears us to promotion.

So sacking him is the answer then, new man in, more players in and out, a full reset. Or do you go for the sensible approach, give the manager, who has lost two games all season (to WBA and Exeter) time to build and develop what he has. I'm not surprised at Adam, abc etc, but am at you, you're starting to sound a bit like a Man U fan.

The question for Edders & you if you'd care to give an answer, is how much time do you want him to have? At what point do you say this isn't working?

So far this season isn't a write off, far from it, but at some point the draws have to start being converted to wins. How is that so difficult to grasp?

Not less than the season

I honestly think if he gets to the end of the season, then DF will have proven his doubters wrong & we'll be in the playoffs at least. If we finish lower than last season then I expect JR to pull the trigger.

He's a patient owner, but he has a tipping point as Coxie & Murray found out.

[EdwinstoweStag]

So Edders, say for the sake argument, Flitters keeps up his current win ratio and continues to preside over an expensive squad sitting in the bottom half of Div 4. At what point do you concede that the 'whingers & bashers' were actually right all along?

And for the record, I'd like nothing more than to have egg all over my face in 6 months time as DF stears us to promotion.

So sacking him is the answer then, new man in, more players in and out, a full reset. Or do you go for the sensible approach, give the manager, who has lost two games all season (to WBA and Exeter) time to build and develop what he has. I'm not surprised at Adam, abc etc, but am at you, you're starting to sound a bit like a Man U fan.

The question for Edders & you if you'd care to give an answer, is how much time do you want him to have? At what point do you say this isn't working?

So far this season isn't a write off, far from it, but at some point the draws have to start being converted to wins. How is that so difficult to grasp?

Not less than the season

I honestly think if he gets to the end of the season, then DF will have proven his doubters wrong & we'll be in the playoffs at least. If we finish lower than last season then I expect JR to pull the trigger.

He's a patient owner, but he has a tipping point as Coxie & Murray found out.

Time (alone) will tell

[spanishstag]

So Edders, say for the sake argument, Flitters keeps up his current win ratio and continues to preside over an expensive squad sitting in the bottom half of Div 4. At what point do you concede that the 'whingers & bashers' were actually right all along?

And for the record, I'd like nothing more than to have egg all over my face in 6 months time as DF stears us to promotion.

So sacking him is the answer then, new man in, more players in and out, a full reset. Or do you go for the sensible approach, give the manager, who has lost two games all season (to WBA and Exeter) time to build and develop what he has. I'm not surprised at Adam, abc etc, but am at you, you're starting to sound a bit like a Man U fan.

You sound like a Scotland fan, happy with failure year in year out.

Far from happy with failure but put into context not green eyed at a certain country,s unadulterated success

[yorkstag]

It’s not about being happy with failure or not . It’s really about making progress over time.

Let’s deal with the obvious - Evans would have left at some stage anyway and the club would have gone into decline. He had no interest whatsoever in the long term development of the club or youth. Hands up I was a supporter but when you look at the language he used to criticise the referee following the loss to Accrington this weekend you realise a lot about SE.

DF is in my view a decent man who has a clear view on how he wants to play. The focus on shape was obvious yesterday and instrumental in getting a point. We are clearly v difficult to beat.

Now - we need to win games but in my view it wil come. If it doesn’t DF knows the score but I for one am happy with where we are on the journey

Onto Morecambe where we need 3 points

[EdwinstoweStag]

It’s not about being happy with failure or not . It’s really about making progress over time.

Let’s deal with the obvious - Evans would have left at some stage anyway and the club would have gone into decline. He had no interest whatsoever in the long term development of the club or youth. Hands up I was a supporter but when you look at the language he used to criticise the referee following the loss to Accrington this weekend you realise a lot about SE.

DF is in my view a decent man who has a clear view on how he wants to play. The focus on shape was obvious yesterday and instrumental in getting a point. We are clearly v difficult to beat.

Now - we need to win games but in my view it wil come. If it doesn’t DF knows the score but I for one am happy with where we are on the journey

Onto Morecambe where we need 3 points

Sense!

[Vice President]

How long should DF be given? .......... At least until the end of the season. Ian Greaves took 3 seasons to get us promoted! (and he also had some top players at his disposal). Some people need to be a bit more patient.

I see DF as a long term manager, part of the bigger picture, rather than a short term fix/'Steve Evans go for broke' type of manager.

Some people on here believe we have the best squad in the league and that we should be entitled to promotion. That is simply wrong.
Perspective and patience are called for in the wake of expectations from the aftermath of the Steve Evans circus.

These draws are frustrating. I remember Ian Greaves had the same problem, and he slowly but surely made changes that made all the difference. I feel that we could be in the same arena again - and throwing out the baby and the bathwater right now is not the answer.

[spanishstag]

How long should DF be given? .......... At least until the end of the season. Ian Greaves took 3 seasons to get us promoted! (and he also had some top players at his disposal). Some people need to be a bit more patient.

I see DF as a long term manager, part of the bigger picture, rather than a short term fix/'Steve Evans go for broke' type of manager.

Some people on here believe we have the best squad in the league and that we should be entitled to promotion. That is simply wrong.
Perspective and patience are called for in the wake of expectations from the aftermath of the Steve Evans circus.

These draws are frustrating. I remember Ian Greaves had the same problem, and he slowly but surely made changes that made all the difference. I feel that we could be in the same arena again - and throwing out the baby and the bathwater right now is not the answer.

Surely common sense will prevail were a work in progress atm

[Sneag]

How long should DF be given? .......... At least until the end of the season. Ian Greaves took 3 seasons to get us promoted! (and he also had some top players at his disposal). Some people need to be a bit more patient.

I see DF as a long term manager, part of the bigger picture, rather than a short term fix/'Steve Evans go for broke' type of manager.

Some people on here believe we have the best squad in the league and that we should be entitled to promotion. That is simply wrong.
Perspective and patience are called for in the wake of expectations from the aftermath of the Steve Evans circus.

These draws are frustrating. I remember Ian Greaves had the same problem, and he slowly but surely made changes that made all the difference. I feel that we could be in the same arena again - and throwing out the baby and the bathwater right now is not the answer.

Evolution over revolution is always a better route to sustained success, so maybe we'd have been better off never appointing Evans. That appointment sent a message out to the fans the JR was prepared to 'buy' a promotion while the academy cauggt up with the first team.

[EdwinstoweStag]

How long should DF be given? .......... At least until the end of the season. Ian Greaves took 3 seasons to get us promoted! (and he also had some top players at his disposal). Some people need to be a bit more patient.

I see DF as a long term manager, part of the bigger picture, rather than a short term fix/'Steve Evans go for broke' type of manager.

Some people on here believe we have the best squad in the league and that we should be entitled to promotion. That is simply wrong.
Perspective and patience are called for in the wake of expectations from the aftermath of the Steve Evans circus.

These draws are frustrating. I remember Ian Greaves had the same problem, and he slowly but surely made changes that made all the difference. I feel that we could be in the same arena again - and throwing out the baby and the bathwater right now is not the answer.

Surely common sense will prevail were a work in progress atm

Dead right. We are a work in progress. A project, if you will.

It’s just a shame that too many contributors to this forum can’t see it.

[abc]

How long should DF be given? .......... At least until the end of the season. Ian Greaves took 3 seasons to get us promoted! (and he also had some top players at his disposal). Some people need to be a bit more patient.

I see DF as a long term manager, part of the bigger picture, rather than a short term fix/'Steve Evans go for broke' type of manager.

Some people on here believe we have the best squad in the league and that we should be entitled to promotion. That is simply wrong.
Perspective and patience are called for in the wake of expectations from the aftermath of the Steve Evans circus.

These draws are frustrating. I remember Ian Greaves had the same problem, and he slowly but surely made changes that made all the difference. I feel that we could be in the same arena again - and throwing out the baby and the bathwater right now is not the answer.

The team Ian Greaves took over were awful and dropping like a stone. Flipflop took over a team that were flying and managed to balls it all up.