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Re: Latics Scorefred sponsored by Keep Boosters On full Blas

Postby Sedgwick » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:56 pm

I see alot of people moan about Atkinson... I thought the last two games his footwork and ability to keep to ball moving has been great. Not a starter, but deserves a bit of credit he never gets.
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Postby Foresttownstag » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:40 pm

Sedgwick wrote:I see alot of people moan about Atkinson... I thought the last two games his footwork and ability to keep to ball moving has been great. Not a starter, but deserves a bit of credit he never gets.


He was excellent when he came on yesterday.
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Postby MTFCMAD » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:01 pm

Sedgwick wrote:I see alot of people moan about Atkinson... I thought the last two games his footwork and ability to keep to ball moving has been great. Not a starter, but deserves a bit of credit he never gets.


He’s a good player but doesn’t suit our systems.
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Postby gazza1988 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:22 pm

Like Hamilton he's had to adapt to the RWB role. It's easier for Atkinson to "get it" because he's a right sided midfielder. Hamilton is a left winger.
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Postby Warsop Stag » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:44 pm

Sedgwick wrote:I see alot of people moan about Atkinson... I thought the last two games his footwork and ability to keep to ball moving has been great. Not a starter, but deserves a bit of credit he never gets.


Totally agree.
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Postby Spiritater » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:23 am

Yorkie had his head in his hands at HT when Atko came on. But even he must've though he played well.
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Postby STAGS FOR LIFE » Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:33 am

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Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:17 am



No wonder they couldn't be bothered the other night.
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Postby The One » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:31 am

MTFCMusings wrote:

No wonder they couldn't be bothered the other night.




???? I thought they did their job well, especially the keeper.
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Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:36 am

The One wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:

No wonder they couldn't be bothered the other night.




???? I thought they did their job well, especially the keeper.


We've been over the keeper situation. They didn't do their job well at all apart from the fact they went away with a point, through sheer luck rather than good play/tactics/performance.
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Postby The One » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:39 am

MTFCMusings wrote:
The One wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:

No wonder they couldn't be bothered the other night.




???? I thought they did their job well, especially the keeper.


We've been over the keeper situation. They didn't do their job well at all apart from the fact they went away with a point, through sheer luck rather than good play/tactics/performance.




Latics had Daniel Iverson to thank in the first half for a number of brilliant saves, as well as the defensive unit who put their bodies on the line.
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Postby The One » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:41 am

MTFCMusings wrote:
The One wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:

No wonder they couldn't be bothered the other night.




???? I thought they did their job well, especially the keeper.


We've been over the keeper situation. They didn't do their job well at all apart from the fact they went away with a point, through sheer luck rather than good play/tactics/performance.



"Latics had Daniel Iverson to thank in the first half for a number of brilliant saves, as well as the defensive unit who put their bodies on the line."
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Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:44 am

The One wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
The One wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:

No wonder they couldn't be bothered the other night.




???? I thought they did their job well, especially the keeper.


We've been over the keeper situation. They didn't do their job well at all apart from the fact they went away with a point, through sheer luck rather than good play/tactics/performance.



"Latics had Daniel Iverson to thank in the first half for a number of brilliant saves, as well as the defensive unit who put their bodies on the line."


I was at the game, I know what happened. He made four saves, two going wide, one straight at him and the other was decent but hardly brilliant. He also should have cost his team a goal if Khan hadn't missed the open net. There was absolutely zero brilliant defending as far as I recall.
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Postby stagsfan6493 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:52 am

MTFCMusings wrote:
The One wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:

No wonder they couldn't be bothered the other night.




???? I thought they did their job well, especially the keeper.


We've been over the keeper situation. They didn't do their job well at all apart from the fact they went away with a point, through sheer luck rather than good play/tactics/performance.

What a load of rubbish! It’s nothing to do with luck. They went away with a point because we couldn’t finish our chances.
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Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:56 am

stagsfan6493 wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
The One wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:

No wonder they couldn't be bothered the other night.




???? I thought they did their job well, especially the keeper.


We've been over the keeper situation. They didn't do their job well at all apart from the fact they went away with a point, through sheer luck rather than good play/tactics/performance.

What a load of rubbish! It’s nothing to do with luck. They went away with a point because we couldn’t finish our chances.


:lol: yes, that's called getting lucky.

Definition of lucky : 'having, bringing, or resulting from good luck."you had a very lucky escape"'
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Postby Hjeldefan » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:08 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:
The One wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
The One wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:

No wonder they couldn't be bothered the other night.




???? I thought they did their job well, especially the keeper.


We've been over the keeper situation. They didn't do their job well at all apart from the fact they went away with a point, through sheer luck rather than good play/tactics/performance.



"Latics had Daniel Iverson to thank in the first half for a number of brilliant saves, as well as the defensive unit who put their bodies on the line."


I was at the game, I know what happened. He made four saves, two going wide, one straight at him and the other was decent but hardly brilliant. He also should have cost his team a goal if Khan hadn't missed the open net. There was absolutely zero brilliant defending as far as I recall.


Zero brilliant defending? They have conceded 1 goal in 6 away games. Give them some credit. If there was no brilliant defending, and we didn't score, what does that say about our hopes for the season...Great defending does not have to be a last ditch challenge, in fact its often the opposite...being so solid you don't have to do that.
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Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:27 pm

They don't deserve any credit. Were you at the game? We missed an open net for starters. So that's 1-0. How much credit would they have got then?

They were anti-football and got lucky. There manager will get all the praise for getting a point away from home despite getting absolutely battered.
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Postby geoffhill » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:58 pm

When watching the game I also thought that Khan missed a very easy chance.On reflection he was actually tackled as he kicked the ball which caused the ball to be diverted on to the bar.I have watched it several times over.
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Postby Hjeldefan » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:43 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:They don't deserve any credit. Were you at the game? We missed an open net for starters. So that's 1-0. How much credit would they have got then?

They were anti-football and got lucky. There manager will get all the praise for getting a point away from home despite getting absolutely battered.


I was at the game yes, don't live here either so had to travel if that helps me register a few 'superfan' points? They defended well, we finished badly. Yes we missed an open net, but did you notice the defender putting pressure on Khan to make that chance a lot harder? Good defending. They did play anti football I agree, and if any team deserved all 3 points it was us no doubt. But to not give them any credit is absolutely ludicrous, as keeping a clean sheet away from home at any level takes a good level of defending.
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Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:55 pm

Hjeldefan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:They don't deserve any credit. Were you at the game? We missed an open net for starters. So that's 1-0. How much credit would they have got then?

They were anti-football and got lucky. There manager will get all the praise for getting a point away from home despite getting absolutely battered.


I was at the game yes, don't live here either so had to travel if that helps me register a few 'superfan' points? They defended well, we finished badly. Yes we missed an open net, but did you notice the defender putting pressure on Khan to make that chance a lot harder? Good defending. They did play anti football I agree, and if any team deserved all 3 points it was us no doubt. But to not give them any credit is absolutely ludicrous, as keeping a clean sheet away from home at any level takes a good level of defending.


It's not about being a superfan, I just wondered if you were at the game because you obviously missed all the clear chances that we made. Khan missed the open net because CJ's pass was behind him, nothing to with the defender putting pressure on. If the defender sliding in did impact Khan, it was a foul and a penalty because he didn't get the ball. So if you class getting away with a foul as good defending then fine. Second chance, first Oldham defender loses header to Walker, lets him run off, second defender loses header to Rose, Walker clean through, misses a sitter. Great defending? Third chance, CJ shot, defenders allow CJ to cut in on to his strong side and get a shot away, great defending. Walker second chance, centre half chests the ball up into the air inside his own half, midfielder sells other defender short with headed pass, other centre half loses 50-50 with Rose, Walkers shot going wide but keeper saves it anyway, stunnind defending, throwing their bodies on the line.

So that's at least 2-0, if not 4 without bad finishing. How can it be good defending when we've missed two clear opportunities? It's bad defending but got lucky.
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Postby Hjeldefan » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:13 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:
Hjeldefan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:They don't deserve any credit. Were you at the game? We missed an open net for starters. So that's 1-0. How much credit would they have got then?

They were anti-football and got lucky. There manager will get all the praise for getting a point away from home despite getting absolutely battered.


I was at the game yes, don't live here either so had to travel if that helps me register a few 'superfan' points? They defended well, we finished badly. Yes we missed an open net, but did you notice the defender putting pressure on Khan to make that chance a lot harder? Good defending. They did play anti football I agree, and if any team deserved all 3 points it was us no doubt. But to not give them any credit is absolutely ludicrous, as keeping a clean sheet away from home at any level takes a good level of defending.


It's not about being a superfan, I just wondered if you were at the game because you obviously missed all the clear chances that we made. Khan missed the open net because CJ's pass was behind him, nothing to with the defender putting pressure on. If the defender sliding in did impact Khan, it was a foul and a penalty because he didn't get the ball. So if you class getting away with a foul as good defending then fine. Second chance, first Oldham defender loses header to Walker, lets him run off, second defender loses header to Rose, Walker clean through, misses a sitter. Great defending? Third chance, CJ shot, defenders allow CJ to cut in on to his strong side and get a shot away, great defending. Walker second chance, centre half chests the ball up into the air inside his own half, midfielder sells other defender short with headed pass, other centre half loses 50-50 with Rose, Walkers shot going wide but keeper saves it anyway, stunnind defending, throwing their bodies on the line.

So that's at least 2-0, if not 4 without bad finishing. How can it be good defending when we've missed two clear opportunities? It's bad defending but got lucky.


We did miss chances, and they were not perfect at defending. But we had about 70% possession and created 3 clearcut chances. Based on what you are saying 'it was pure luck' they may as well have not had a defence. You are being far to black and white about it. Like most things in football, its a bit of both. On the whole they defended well, and got a point out of it. Their other clean sheets show that they have a solid defence (albeit boring style) away from home. But we contributed to it with terrible finishing yes, which you could attribute to luck on their part. Bit of both, but give some credit to their defence.
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Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:22 pm

Hjeldefan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
Hjeldefan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:They don't deserve any credit. Were you at the game? We missed an open net for starters. So that's 1-0. How much credit would they have got then?

They were anti-football and got lucky. There manager will get all the praise for getting a point away from home despite getting absolutely battered.


I was at the game yes, don't live here either so had to travel if that helps me register a few 'superfan' points? They defended well, we finished badly. Yes we missed an open net, but did you notice the defender putting pressure on Khan to make that chance a lot harder? Good defending. They did play anti football I agree, and if any team deserved all 3 points it was us no doubt. But to not give them any credit is absolutely ludicrous, as keeping a clean sheet away from home at any level takes a good level of defending.


It's not about being a superfan, I just wondered if you were at the game because you obviously missed all the clear chances that we made. Khan missed the open net because CJ's pass was behind him, nothing to with the defender putting pressure on. If the defender sliding in did impact Khan, it was a foul and a penalty because he didn't get the ball. So if you class getting away with a foul as good defending then fine. Second chance, first Oldham defender loses header to Walker, lets him run off, second defender loses header to Rose, Walker clean through, misses a sitter. Great defending? Third chance, CJ shot, defenders allow CJ to cut in on to his strong side and get a shot away, great defending. Walker second chance, centre half chests the ball up into the air inside his own half, midfielder sells other defender short with headed pass, other centre half loses 50-50 with Rose, Walkers shot going wide but keeper saves it anyway, stunnind defending, throwing their bodies on the line.

So that's at least 2-0, if not 4 without bad finishing. How can it be good defending when we've missed two clear opportunities? It's bad defending but got lucky.


We did miss chances, and they were not perfect at defending. But we had about 70% possession and created 3 clearcut chances. Based on what you are saying 'it was pure luck' they may as well have not had a defence. You are being far to black and white about it. Like most things in football, its a bit of both. On the whole they defended well, and got a point out of it. Their other clean sheets show that they have a solid defence (albeit boring style) away from home. But we contributed to it with terrible finishing yes, which you could attribute to luck on their part. Bit of both, but give some credit to their defence.



We're never going to agree by the looks of it. I'm being too black and white about it but because they kept a clean sheet they defended well? We only had 58% possession by the way, and created plenty enough to win the game, we just couldn't finish. If that's your idea of good defending then I can only say I hope Stags don't employ your method for the rest of the season.
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Postby withnail » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:29 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:
Hjeldefan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
Hjeldefan wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:They don't deserve any credit. Were you at the game? We missed an open net for starters. So that's 1-0. How much credit would they have got then?

They were anti-football and got lucky. There manager will get all the praise for getting a point away from home despite getting absolutely battered.


I was at the game yes, don't live here either so had to travel if that helps me register a few 'superfan' points? They defended well, we finished badly. Yes we missed an open net, but did you notice the defender putting pressure on Khan to make that chance a lot harder? Good defending. They did play anti football I agree, and if any team deserved all 3 points it was us no doubt. But to not give them any credit is absolutely ludicrous, as keeping a clean sheet away from home at any level takes a good level of defending.


It's not about being a superfan, I just wondered if you were at the game because you obviously missed all the clear chances that we made. Khan missed the open net because CJ's pass was behind him, nothing to with the defender putting pressure on. If the defender sliding in did impact Khan, it was a foul and a penalty because he didn't get the ball. So if you class getting away with a foul as good defending then fine. Second chance, first Oldham defender loses header to Walker, lets him run off, second defender loses header to Rose, Walker clean through, misses a sitter. Great defending? Third chance, CJ shot, defenders allow CJ to cut in on to his strong side and get a shot away, great defending. Walker second chance, centre half chests the ball up into the air inside his own half, midfielder sells other defender short with headed pass, other centre half loses 50-50 with Rose, Walkers shot going wide but keeper saves it anyway, stunnind defending, throwing their bodies on the line.

So that's at least 2-0, if not 4 without bad finishing. How can it be good defending when we've missed two clear opportunities? It's bad defending but got lucky.


We did miss chances, and they were not perfect at defending. But we had about 70% possession and created 3 clearcut chances. Based on what you are saying 'it was pure luck' they may as well have not had a defence. You are being far to black and white about it. Like most things in football, its a bit of both. On the whole they defended well, and got a point out of it. Their other clean sheets show that they have a solid defence (albeit boring style) away from home. But we contributed to it with terrible finishing yes, which you could attribute to luck on their part. Bit of both, but give some credit to their defence.



We're never going to agree by the looks of it. I'm being too black and white about it but because they kept a clean sheet they defended well? We only had 58% possession by the way, and created plenty enough to win the game, we just couldn't finish. If that's your idea of good defending then I can only say I hope Stags don't employ your method for the rest of the season.

My view was it was a combination of poor finishing, bad luck and some very good, sometimes last ditch, defending.
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Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:38 pm

So no bad defending at all then? :roll:
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Postby withnail » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:09 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:So no bad defending at all then? :roll:

No, I don't recall any particularly 'bad defending' if that helps clarify.
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