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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby Rob » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:46 pm

Chimney wrote:
Spiritater wrote:I think we're better but haven't gelled yet, it'll take till Jan/Feb before we have.


Wow that's some statement. If we "gel" at the end of January, we have 16 games to save our season,
If the team needs 6 months to get to know each other, we are in deep pooh

Therefore I assume there was irony in your post


What, giving a manager a year and two transfer windows is so far fetched :lol: Clearly if by Nov/Dec we are struggling at the wrong end of the table then even JR will re-assess, but the previous manager left a raft of issues that sadly were not sorted during the summer. I am sure you and a few others would have done what Hardy did at Notts, for me it is ridiculous to allow a manager to spend so much in the summer and then sack him 5 games in, utterly stupid, but this is Hardy. Happily, JR is infinitely more patient and intelligent - barring any real disaster I fully expect DF to be our manager into next year.
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby Amber Andy » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:29 pm

abc wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:We are a work in progress.

Will take another two transfer windows before the squad is sorted.


I bet you wouldn't say that if you were funding it.
Not sure what you mean abc.

Basically it will take two more transfer windows to rid ourselves of the previous managers expensive flops and replace them with players like Khan.
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby abc » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:53 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
abc wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:We are a work in progress.

Will take another two transfer windows before the squad is sorted.


I bet you wouldn't say that if you were funding it.
Not sure what you mean abc.

Basically it will take two more transfer windows to rid ourselves of the previous managers expensive flops and replace them with players like Khan.


Khan didn't come cheap. The expensive Flops as you call them couldn't of done any worse than the players Flipflop picked in the second half yesterday.
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby Amber Andy » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:58 pm

abc wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
abc wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:We are a work in progress.

Will take another two transfer windows before the squad is sorted.


I bet you wouldn't say that if you were funding it.
Not sure what you mean abc.

Basically it will take two more transfer windows to rid ourselves of the previous managers expensive flops and replace them with players like Khan.


Khan didn't come cheap. The expensive Flops as you call them couldn't of done any worse than the players Flipflop picked in the second half yesterday.
Really. Most people on here will tell you that DF's signings have been far better tha Mr Walk away's. Trouble is they are on wages that are so good, we can't move them on. Also I would say Angol cost more than Khan. Who signed Stirling - James , Mellis and Danny Rose ? I will give you a clue, not DF.
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:03 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
abc wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
abc wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:We are a work in progress.

Will take another two transfer windows before the squad is sorted.


I bet you wouldn't say that if you were funding it.
Not sure what you mean abc.

Basically it will take two more transfer windows to rid ourselves of the previous managers expensive flops and replace them with players like Khan.


Khan didn't come cheap. The expensive Flops as you call them couldn't of done any worse than the players Flipflop picked in the second half yesterday.
Really. Most people on here will tell you that DF's signings have been far better tha Mr Walk away's. Trouble is they are on wages that are so good, we can't move them on. Also I would say Angol cost more than Khan. Who signed Stirling - James and who signed Danny Rose ?


I agree, Tyler Walker looks slightly better than Jimmy Spencer :lol:
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby abc » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:22 pm

Didn't realise Spencer was still with us ! :roll:
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby I am Spartacus » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:50 am

It is not just a case of better or worse for ourselves. That would only apply if the rest of the league had been stagnant over the summer but it hasn’t and all, with the exception of County signing Agent Dennis, have tried to improve.

The question is have we improved, noticeably so and are we headed in the correct direction this season?

I think the answer is a resounding yes. The signings made look to be, though early days, hungry for footballing success and are footballers. The style we play, when we play as often we drop off towards the end, is what I want to watch. The spine of the team has been strengthened (Preston, Bishop and Davies and now Bobby in goal). The problems with the side ie closing the games out and silly goals can be worked on.

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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:18 am

Better for me so far, though I'm still to be convinced DF will promote us. However, I'll give him more time and not resort to the high-chair hijinks of a few fans on here.

Many also seem to suggest the footy is far better, so why are the critics so impatient this time around? I'm sure there's a perfectly valid reason, but so far its just portrayed as embitterment about last season
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby thefamilyvontrapp » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:36 am

I think the main difference between the two managers is...;

Evans....signed(on paper) some quality players who were well capable of playing football... then went on to stop those players playing football.. bullied the football out of them!!!

Flitcroft.....hands tied with signings... done really well to convince the existing players that they can play football again!!!

Wether Flitcroft has what it takes to get us over the finish line we have yet to see... but I am more than happy with things at the moment...
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby PRL13 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:41 am

Tyler is far better than Spencer!
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby Conker » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:08 am

Davies and Walker have both been off in the past two games, you could argue to drop one for Rose but I doubt that happening with him still on the transfer list.

Still could do with another striker IMO !
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby Amber Andy » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:19 am

Conker wrote:Davies and Walker have both been off in the past two games, you could argue to drop one for Rose but I doubt that happening with him still on the transfer list.

Still could do with another striker IMO !

I'd give Jordan Graham ago against West Brom.

If DR goes, which looks increasingly likely ( if his heart was here he'd be off the transfer list), we will definitely need another striker.

So far, DF's recruitment has been good, so I think he will bring in some one decent.
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby StagsFan83 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:03 pm

I don’t get this gelling bull, other teams we play every week also had a similar amount of new players, a similar length pre season, if we are a better team, we should be winning. Flitcroft out.
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby StagsFan83 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:05 pm

Just to add to that, 5 at the back doesn’t work for us, Flitcroft has us playing fancy football but this is league two, how long will us fans hang on to ‘we had a good preseason, we beat Accrington’s second team 6-1’ before we realise at this rate we won’t go up
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby Spiritater » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:23 pm

StagsFan83 wrote:Just to add to that, 5 at the back doesn’t work for us, Flitcroft has us playing fancy football but this is league two, how long will us fans hang on to ‘we had a good preseason, we beat Accrington’s second team 6-1’ before we realise at this rate we won’t go up


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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby Rigsby » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:03 pm

I can't believe I'm reading "Flitcroft out" posts this early in the season. Don't know what it would be like if we'd actually lost a game. Some people are so impatient and seem to think we have some sort of God given right to be promoted. I honestly think that despite people saying they'll give Flitcroft a chance, they're actually wanting him to fail so they can claim they were right all along. Chopping and changing Managers doesn't work, just take a look down the A60, see how it's worked for them.
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:08 pm

Rigsby wrote:I can't believe I'm reading "Flitcroft out" posts this early in the season. Don't know what it would be like if we'd actually lost a game. Some people are so impatient and seem to think we have some sort of God given right to be promoted. I honestly think that despite people saying they'll give Flitcroft a chance, they're actually wanting him to fail so they can claim they were right all along. Chopping and changing Managers doesn't work, just take a look down the A60, see how it's worked for them.


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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby bellwhiff » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:10 pm

Rigsby wrote:I can't believe I'm reading "Flitcroft out" posts this early in the season. Don't know what it would be like if we'd actually lost a game. Some people are so impatient and seem to think we have some sort of God given right to be promoted. I honestly think that despite people saying they'll give Flitcroft a chance, they're actually wanting him to fail so they can claim they were right all along. Chopping and changing Managers doesn't work, just take a look down the A60, see how it's worked for them.

Welcome to the banality that is Stagsnet. Five games in and unbeaten. Calling for the manager to be sacked. True insanity. I am constantly bemused by the idiocy of some so called “supporters”
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby I am Spartacus » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:36 pm

Billericay have got rid of their manager and the owner has taken charge.

This past week, with all the changes of leadership it has brought, must mean the sacking season has started early.

Can’t wait till Alan Hardy follows the business model of billericay and has a go himself! (Finger crossed for that day)
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby Vice President » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:15 pm

It is all about keeping clean sheets and taking your chances. Formations & pretty football are secondary.

It is too early to judge, but given the league results so far, it looks like we have some work to do/might be a couple of players short at the moment.
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby Sedgwick » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:39 pm

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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby bellwhiff » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:42 pm

Sedgwick wrote:

A little less of that positivity please.

People are trying to hang themselves over here.
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby Rigsby » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:50 pm

That made me chuckle. Thanks.....
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby geoffhill » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:15 pm

Spencer is at Farsley.He scored at the weekend.Potter is at Billeracy.Only Anderson and Diamond to get rid of.Apparently Stags fans voted Gibbens mom at macc.He did ok but was not my mom by a long stretch.Having said that he could well become a very good player.
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Re: Are we better or worse?

Postby Field Mill » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:22 pm

Better. It's very early days and I'm not sure we will score enough goals.forget Accy. That was their reserves, and way down their list of priorities for the season. It's marginal.Nolan has just had the boot at Notts with a better record than Flitcroft.
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