Waggy wrote:I usually agree with your reports to a large extent Martin, but not this one. I thought it was a really good performance against a side that is very well organised and came with a plan to stop us playing. We were patient and managed to get in front with a super goal and should have won. We were let down by a shocking piece of goalkeeping and not for the first time. I know you have a scoring system that for some reason starts at 5, but I think its wholey unjust to give some of those players just one point higher than Logan. I don't think i've been so annoyed by one one individual player for a long time
Waggy wrote:I usually agree with your reports to a large extent Martin, but not this one. I thought it was a really good performance against a side that is very well organised and came with a plan to stop us playing. We were patient and managed to get in front with a super goal and should have won. We were let down by a shocking piece of goalkeeping and not for the first time. I know you have a scoring system that for some reason starts at 5, but I think its wholey unjust to give some of those players just one point higher than Logan. I don't think i've been so annoyed by one one individual player for a long time
Bros wrote:Have you stopped marking the ref Martin
Waggy wrote:Goalkeepers are paid not to make mistakes. I don't buy into the idea that its ok because they are only human. Most of what they have to do is routine and dealing with a long throw into the 6 yard box is as routine as you can get. Logan has cost us 2 points at home against what could be a promotion rival. If 4 is a stinker, he deserves a 3
His whole command of the area is poor and I remember him patronising fans when he first arrived by suggesting they didn't know what they were talking about. Well we have now seen more that a few collapses in the last minute due to poor defending. In my opinion a lot of that is down to him not giving assurance to defenders by coming and dominating his area.
He isn't the only one guilty of sloppy play and if we are to be successful it has to stop. We seam to have to really work for our goals, with yesterday being a prime example. We can't then keep gifting the opposition goals without them working for them.
Time for Bobby O
Martin Shaw wrote:Logan's command of the area was ok yesterday until that throw-in. A good punch away from a set piece earlier. I'm rating on his performance yesterday, not his overall capabilities.
I'm trying to rate objectively, rather than being angry. I didn't say anything about it being ok to make mistakes because he's only human. He made one mistake, so I drop him from 6 to 5. Had he made another mistake yesterday, I would have dropped him from 6 to 4.
cassellswasmagic wrote:Waggy wrote:Goalkeepers are paid not to make mistakes. I don't buy into the idea that its ok because they are only human. Most of what they have to do is routine and dealing with a long throw into the 6 yard box is as routine as you can get. Logan has cost us 2 points at home against what could be a promotion rival. If 4 is a stinker, he deserves a 3
His whole command of the area is poor and I remember him patronising fans when he first arrived by suggesting they didn't know what they were talking about. Well we have now seen more that a few collapses in the last minute due to poor defending. In my opinion a lot of that is down to him not giving assurance to defenders by coming and dominating his area.
He isn't the only one guilty of sloppy play and if we are to be successful it has to stop. We seam to have to really work for our goals, with yesterday being a prime example. We can't then keep gifting the opposition goals without them working for them.
Time for Bobby O
So are strikers. When a striker misses from a yard out then scores later we forgive him, when a goalie makes a great save then a howler we want him hung drawn and quartered. That’s the life of a keeper. Unfortunately!!!
Waggy wrote:cassellswasmagic wrote:Waggy wrote:Goalkeepers are paid not to make mistakes. I don't buy into the idea that its ok because they are only human. Most of what they have to do is routine and dealing with a long throw into the 6 yard box is as routine as you can get. Logan has cost us 2 points at home against what could be a promotion rival. If 4 is a stinker, he deserves a 3
His whole command of the area is poor and I remember him patronising fans when he first arrived by suggesting they didn't know what they were talking about. Well we have now seen more that a few collapses in the last minute due to poor defending. In my opinion a lot of that is down to him not giving assurance to defenders by coming and dominating his area.
He isn't the only one guilty of sloppy play and if we are to be successful it has to stop. We seam to have to really work for our goals, with yesterday being a prime example. We can't then keep gifting the opposition goals without them working for them.
Time for Bobby O
So are strikers. When a striker misses from a yard out then scores later we forgive him, when a goalie makes a great save then a howler we want him hung drawn and quartered. That’s the life of a keeper. Unfortunately!!!
That's exactly the point. Keepers have to be consistent or they undermine the confidence of the defence. Lets not pretend this is a first offence either.
As for strikers - you do have a point. Mansfield are far too sloppy all over the field - that's why we didn't go up last year and from the start of this season so far we haven't learnt. It needs stamping on now or at the end we'll be looking back and saying if only ...Colchester etc..
Martin Shaw wrote:Logan's command of the area was ok yesterday until that throw-in. A good punch away from a set piece earlier. I'm rating on his performance yesterday, not his overall capabilities.
I'm trying to rate objectively, rather than being angry. I didn't say anything about it being ok to make mistakes because he's only human. He made one mistake, so I drop him from 6 to 5. Had he made another mistake yesterday, I would have dropped him from 6 to 4.
Spiritater wrote:Martin Shaw wrote:Logan's command of the area was ok yesterday until that throw-in. A good punch away from a set piece earlier. I'm rating on his performance yesterday, not his overall capabilities.
I'm trying to rate objectively, rather than being angry. I didn't say anything about it being ok to make mistakes because he's only human. He made one mistake, so I drop him from 6 to 5. Had he made another mistake yesterday, I would have dropped him from 6 to 4.
The question now Marty is,
Should we give Bobby a go at Tranny?
Waggy wrote:Goalkeepers are paid not to make mistakes. I don't buy into the idea that its ok because they are only human. Most of what they have to do is routine and dealing with a long throw into the 6 yard box is as routine as you can get. Logan has cost us 2 points at home against what could be a promotion rival. If 4 is a stinker, he deserves a 3
His whole command of the area is poor and I remember him patronising fans when he first arrived by suggesting they didn't know what they were talking about. Well we have now seen more that a few collapses in the last minute due to poor defending. In my opinion a lot of that is down to him not giving assurance to defenders by coming and dominating his area.
He isn't the only one guilty of sloppy play and if we are to be successful it has to stop. We seam to have to really work for our goals, with yesterday being a prime example. We can't then keep gifting the opposition goals without them working for them.
Time for Bobby O
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