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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby Sneag » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:02 am

I would say far beyond being an apologist Belly he wss an active supporter of Haslam.
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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:57 am

Yep, no denying it. As we get older and wiser me and Jamie agree on more and more things, however, he'll go to the grave still supporting a guy who tried to destroy our football club.

And I might add, don't ever think that he wasn't alone. I remember on numerous occasions being vocal at grounds across the country about Haslam, over several years, and getting in to verbals with individuals who frequently pleaded with you to give it a rest.

If it was left to these people, they wouldn't have a professional football club to support in this town anymore.
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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby Sneag » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:20 am

Too true Doomy. I remember getting the dogs abuse from some Haslamists at Scotch Corner services on the way to the Scumcastle game.

I was a disgrace and not a real Stags fans, because I was wearing a KH IOU £1m shirt.
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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:13 am

Sneag wrote:I would say far beyond being an apologist Belly he wss an active supporter of Haslam.


I was being charitable. It’s what I’m known for.
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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby arsene wengers coat » Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:25 am

Didnt some stags fans get chucked out of an Ashes test in Australia for chanting Haslam Out.

I lived in farnsfield back then and we had the yellow plastic signs on every lamp post through the village.

While at this club He was an embezzler, a fraudster, and a lier.

To give him credit for the bodge job field mill redevelopment is short sited. He applied for and was awarded a football ground infrastructure fund that paid for the majority of the work. However even some of the £millions he had access to for ground improvements allegedly went missing and we are left with a permanent reminder of him by how slapdash field mill is today.
A golden generation of players underachieving, and missing millions and several scandals all on his watch.
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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby Big yella » Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:40 am

bellwhiff wrote:
Sneag wrote:I would say far beyond being an apologist Belly he wss an active supporter of Haslam.


I was being charitable. It’s what I’m known for.


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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby Sedgwick » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:18 pm

On the topic of Haslam, all this was happening when I was a kid, I think I was 10 when we went to Cardiff. Some of my earliest memories are us getting promoted and having a cracking entertaining team, every week I was taken by my dad and it was amazing. It's such a shame that time was with him. Puts a downer on my early stags memories and makes me hate him even more and i look forward to this JR era even more!

I can vividly remember being taken by my grandad who used to live up the road from quarry lane to see the new ground being built and being shown the plans and designs for it. I am imagining things or was the modern redevelopment supposed to look really different??! I've always wondered about that
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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby Sneag » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:31 pm

The new Field Mill is a testament to Haslam's reign. Cheap, nasty, no corner left uncut & a mystery where most of the money went.

Oh and tge badge is raspberries too. :lol:
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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:50 pm

Sneag wrote:The new Field Mill is a testament to Haslam's reign. Cheap, nasty, no corner left uncut & a mystery where most of the money went.

Oh and tge badge is raspberries too. :lol:


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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:01 pm

Sneag wrote:The new Field Mill is a testament to Haslam's reign. Cheap, nasty, no corner left uncut & a mystery where most of the money went.

Oh and tge badge is raspberries too. :lol:


Correct. I still feel a dick for feeling optimistic whilst it was going up but incredibly (although unsurprisingly) let down once it was finished. Have always hated the result, although hats off to Radders on his attempts at polishing the turd.

My old man is big friends with Ivan Hollett. He was telling us about it beginning to drop to bits internally after 12 months of being built.
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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby Sneag » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:35 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
Sneag wrote:The new Field Mill is a testament to Haslam's reign. Cheap, nasty, no corner left uncut & a mystery where most of the money went.

Oh and tge badge is raspberries too. :lol:


My old man is big friends with Ivan Hollett. He was telling us about it beginning to drop to bits internally after 12 months of being built.


I remember having a chat with Barry Statham and being told the same thing.
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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby Dan » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:41 pm

Sedgwick wrote:I can vividly remember being taken by my grandad who used to live up the road from quarry lane to see the new ground being built and being shown the plans and designs for it. I am imagining things or was the modern redevelopment supposed to look really different??! I've always wondered about that


There were different plans drawn up but I was shown the original plans by jack Retter god rest his soul. The ground was meant to have moved 90 degrees so there was lots more room but the grant was just to rebuild like for like & any movement of stands weren’t covered by the grant so ‘he’ just left it the way it is. As I’ve said numerous times on here both ends were also meant to go corner to corner but they would’ve held 2,250 but that also went over the grant. So ‘he’ shortened them so neither end actually reaches the corner flag & only hold 1,950 I think.
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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby Melbourne Stag » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:07 am

Jamie wrote:No doubt what i'm about to say will be met with the rubbish from the usual people, but here goes...

Ever since he was moved on, people have hammered Haslam for selling him to line his own pocket. Well its interesting that he was sold to pay the Police bill and stop the club from being wound up. Lets also not forget the backdrop of that season, people were staying away and the income was well down, essentially forcing this sale to pay other bills.

Obviously if Haslam hadn't been so greedy in the years previous, we wouldn't have been in that situation, i'm not for a second saying he was good for the club or that i love him or anything else... But i just think its funny how everyone automatically assumed Barker was sold to line Haslams pocket one last time before he was forced out / made to sell, but actually he sold him to keep the club alive.


Regardless of everything Haslam, truth is Jamie has a solid point whether you like to hear it or not.
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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:14 am

I'm afraid he hasn't, Melbourne.

Whichever way you cut it, if Haslam hadn't relentlessly skimmed everything he feasibly could out of the club he wouldn't have found himself in that position. It's the level at which he consistently did and amount taken that's the point to all of this.

What Barkers money was spent on is irrelevant. If you can convince otherwise then please feel free to, bud
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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby Sneag » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:49 am

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Jamie wrote:No doubt what i'm about to say will be met with the rubbish from the usual people, but here goes...

Ever since he was moved on, people have hammered Haslam for selling him to line his own pocket. Well its interesting that he was sold to pay the Police bill and stop the club from being wound up. Lets also not forget the backdrop of that season, people were staying away and the income was well down, essentially forcing this sale to pay other bills.

Obviously if Haslam hadn't been so greedy in the years previous, we wouldn't have been in that situation, i'm not for a second saying he was good for the club or that i love him or anything else... But i just think its funny how everyone automatically assumed Barker was sold to line Haslams pocket one last time before he was forced out / made to sell, but actually he sold him to keep the club alive.


Regardless of everything Haslam, truth is Jamie has a solid point whether you like to hear it or not.


The only solid point Jamie has is the point between his ears. If you 'borrow' money from a business rather than paying creditors and then those creditors slap a winding up order on you, so you sell one of your last saleable assets to keep the winding up order at bay (whilst 'borrowing' the change no doubt), the blame for the business' inevitable demise lies with the owner of the of said company.

In the case of Stags issues, the blame certainly did not redt with fans who had cottoned on to KHs actions and were no longer prepared to keep handing him cash to 'borrow'.
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Re: Barker confirms his forced transfer saved the Stags

Postby Spiritater » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:52 pm

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Sneag wrote:The new Field Mill is a testament to Haslam's reign. Cheap, nasty, no corner left uncut & a mystery where most of the money went.

Oh and tge badge is raspberries too. :lol:


Correct. I still feel a dick for feeling optimistic whilst it was going up but incredibly (although unsurprisingly) let down once it was finished. Have always hated the result, although hats off to Radders on his attempts at polishing the turd.

My old man is big friends with Ivan Hollett. He was telling us about it beginning to drop to bits internally after 12 months of being built.


So no doubt if it were dropping to bits he'll have put a claim in against the builders and got it fixed wouldn't he?

I can imagine the cheque landing on his desk and him making a mental note for it's destination...
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