part time pete wrote:
http://www.rowmaps.com/showmap.php?plac ... 34&lonew=W
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:I presume from this we are dealing with the old public footpath which used to be called Cinderella Walk and ran up the back of the old north stand. I think this went onto Bradder street or thereabouts and didn't bend to the back of the old west stand.
Notts county council employ a public rights of way officer who should respond to any enquiries and would be responsible for enforcing any unlawful closures.
It is entirely possible this footpath was diverted or even revoked with the development of the retail park or Bradder Street industrial area so the first job would be to ensure the right of way still exists. Again Nottinghamshire County Council should be able to supply this information, if necessary under a freedom of information request if they don't reply in the first instance.
A little research may save faces becoming yolk coloured. I would be surprised if the gate is across a public right of way as the area it leads to is entirely enclosed by fencing with no way out should the gates be locked. If the right of way still exists I think it probably carries on up to Bradder Street.
This is the map
Yes Pete it's the same one that I looked at.
I have no doubt that map shows the route goes through the car park and also through the gate.
However the only document that has any legal standing is the order held by NCC. That document will describe the route in detail and should also have a plan attached.
Before I retired I was responsible for the enforcement of some Road Traffic Orders and my experience was that maps and information published on the net by third parties did not always conform with what was in the orders. The net details had no legal standing but caused lots of people to get upset and demand enforcement.
Whilst I accept the chances are that this map is probably correct, the sensible thing to do is check with the rights of way officer.
I was unaware of the gap in the fencing and that does alter the probability factor making the map more likely to be correct.
The biggest check for me is to ensure the order was actually changed when the route was diverted. This is not a cheap process and sometimes it isn't followed. If it wasn't altered you can forget any enforcement action as the diversion would not stand.
All in all an interesting situation and whatever your views on the gate, one that will entertain for some time to come.
Of course, if the gate is on a public footpath, an easy solution for the police and club would be to apply for a diversion around the top of the training pitch. I can't see why that wouldn't be granted and would take around three months to complete the process. The cost would probably fall on the club.