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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby Chimney » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:25 am

The membership deal has one basic flaw, if it’s ‘too cold, too wet, or we are playing average stuff in mid table ‘ the members won’t be arrised to go whereas a ST holder probably would
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby Amberheart » Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:04 pm

vicar jeremiah wrote:The membership deal has one basic flaw, if it’s ‘too cold, too wet, or we are playing average stuff in mid table ‘ the members won’t be arrised to go whereas a ST holder probably would

Good point . Fans will be more likely to go if they've already paid via ST
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby cassellswasmagic » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:40 pm

Amberheart wrote:
vicar jeremiah wrote:The membership deal has one basic flaw, if it’s ‘too cold, too wet, or we are playing average stuff in mid table ‘ the members won’t be arrised to go whereas a ST holder probably would

Good point . Fans will be more likely to go if they've already paid via ST

That’s one of the main reasons I chose the member card tbh. Either way it’s win-win as it’s a lot cheaper.
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby SINA STAG » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:37 pm

Beano wrote:
SINA STAG wrote:I've had a season ticket for years even though I work 4 Saturdays on 4 Saturdays off rota all the big games home n away ive been working I've used a days holiday but now they've brought in this membership scheme with discounted match tickets the club as lost revenue with just me alone. But on the flip side it saved me money as well.... own goal for the club sina 1 MTFC 0



So you're dissing the club for offering you a better deal!!!

Only on Stagsnet :lol:


Not me mate the only person who's dissed the club is the ones who sat at the meeting n agreed a membership card is cheaper than someone buying a season ticket but like you nearly said Mr Bean


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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby Martin Shaw » Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:23 am

SINA STAG wrote:Not me mate the only person who's dissed the club is the ones who sat at the meeting n agreed a membership card is cheaper than someone buying a season ticket but like you nearly said Mr Bean


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well that was John Radford.

Here is what he said at the Evening With John and Carolyn on 22 May :

John Radford on Quarry Lane membership and season tickets:

"The advantage of the Quarry Lane membership is that you get half price tickets. You do have to buy the ticket at least a day before the game because we have to be able to police that and know the numbers for that, and you have not got a guaranteed seat. So you've not got the same seat every game. It's not the same as having a season ticket. The reason that deal was put out there was to generate atmosphere there (Quarry Lane end) as well as Q block. So that could be the new North Stand. I used to love the North stand (for home fans), but we can't get that back for the fans as it's a policing issue, so that's not on the immediate agenda. Any business ... you have got to look after your loyal customers ... but you have to encourage new customers, and to allow 12-18 year olds to get in for half price allows them the ability to get to 5 or 6 games and then encourage them next year to go and get a season ticket. It creates a bit more of a younger atmosphere over there and create numbers over there and try and fill the stadium."

(On the early bird): "That's a tough one. We looked at this year ... we just had to catch our breath from last year, the way season tickets went last year. I'm probably going to regret not having an early bird this year, but please don't hold the club to ransom on that. This year an early bird hasn't gone out, that doesn't mean it won't happen next year. Certainly having a season ticket is a lot better price than going and buying a seat for every game, and you've got your own seat. And we do give offers to season ticket holders, you've got a couple of tickets to the races if you wanted that. We will look after our season ticket holders and it's about generating atmosphere and getting the fans down here and getting people who've not been here to come and watch us play and see how good the stadium is and see how we support our club."

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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby Jamie » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:33 am

Beano wrote:
Jamie wrote:
Beano wrote:


That article states that the membership scheme is "an own goal", I don't see it like that at all. In effect the club has sold 1500 season tickets to date and they will recreate a "kop" atmosphere in the QLE.

Hardly an "own goal" ;)


Sorry but no... the 400 or so members have paid just £20 so far. They've done nothing but pay a very small fee. No guarantee they will go to any games let alone all of them that would be required to put the money spent anywhere near that spent already by season tickets holders. To class them anything like the same is just another kick in the nuts for those of us who have stumped up the £350.

We've sold 1000 season tickets and wasted the opportunity to have sold hundreds more.


Why have you been kicked in the nuts?

If you were happy to pay for season ticket, then you've got a good deal.

If you wanted a QLE ticket you would have gone that route

No one he been kicked in the nuts (neither scheme is compulsory!!)


A good deal??? The kick in the nuts is that I've had to pay £55 more than last year and that the club have done the offer which makes my ST more expensive than the membership. This isn't rocket science Beano we've been shafted, devalued and taken for granted by the powers that be.
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:04 am

You're right Jamie, you and QLE season ticket holders have been shafted and it's bizarre.

Either your season ticket should have been priced at an equal to a full paid 23 game attending membership card holder, or the membership card scheme should have equalled a season ticket price.

I sometimes wonder whether these ideas arise towards the end of a pretty lengthy and heavy sesh.
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby Beano » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:17 am

No ones been shafted - because everyone has a choice.

If you don't think a season ticket is a good deal, buy a membership card :roll:
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby James » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:51 am

Beano wrote:No ones been shafted - because everyone has a choice.

If you don't think a season ticket is a good deal, buy a membership card :roll:


Exactly how i see it. I was a season ticket holder in the QLE, now i've gone for a membership because it makes financial sense to do so.

The only party i see that are losing out are the club to be honest.
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:51 am

Beano wrote:No ones been shafted - because everyone has a choice.

If you don't think a season ticket is a good deal, buy a membership card :roll:


Yes they have. If you're a regular season ticket holder in Quarry Lane; you've sat in there for years, stayed loyal by buying a season ticket and like the idea of holding a season ticket to put you in the rightfully advantageous place of being first in the line for potential fixtures, and, to avoid messing about queuing for advanced tickets for every individual game, then you're being done over. It's not about choice it's about simplicity and being rewarded for throwing your all in for the season when some membership card holders will chuck it in.

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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby James » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:55 am

DoomMerchant wrote:
Beano wrote:No ones been shafted - because everyone has a choice.

If you don't think a season ticket is a good deal, buy a membership card :roll:


Yes they have. If you're a regular season ticket holder in Quarry Lane; you've sat in there for years, stayed loyal by buying a season ticket and like the idea of holding a season ticket to put you in the rightfully advantageous place of being first in the line for potential fixtures, and, to avoid messing about queuing for advanced tickets for every individual game, then you're being done over. It's not about choice it's about simplicity and being rewarded for throwing your all in for the season when some membership card holders chuck it in.

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I think you're looking into that far too much. Yes there was an advantage over tickets, but lets be honest, how many away games do we get where we can't get a ticket? Also, there is still priority for membership holders, so will still get tickets before general sale.

With how the ticketing system works now, it shouldn't be that hard to get your tickets beforehand, either by post.
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby Stags 2002 » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:03 pm

James wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Beano wrote:No ones been shafted - because everyone has a choice.

If you don't think a season ticket is a good deal, buy a membership card :roll:


Yes they have. If you're a regular season ticket holder in Quarry Lane; you've sat in there for years, stayed loyal by buying a season ticket and like the idea of holding a season ticket to put you in the rightfully advantageous place of being first in the line for potential fixtures, and, to avoid messing about queuing for advanced tickets for every individual game, then you're being done over. It's not about choice it's about simplicity and being rewarded for throwing your all in for the season when some membership card holders chuck it in.

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I think you're looking into that far too much. Yes there was an advantage over tickets, but lets be honest, how many away games do we get where we can't get a ticket? Also, there is still priority for membership holders, so will still get tickets before general sale.

With how the ticketing system works now, it shouldn't be that hard to get your tickets beforehand, either by post.


Not looked to confirm as don't sit in QLE but is there a deadline before membership becomes unavailable or is it available throughout the season like similar offers at others clubs?

The issue isn't for most away games which the genuine supporter attends, its games where we do struggle for tickets which happen every few years (good draw in FA cup most likely candidate) where a sudden influx of memberships will be made and they'll be in the same pot as those who've attended all season - for me thats not right when processes can be put in place.

Ive said it before and i'll say it again there should be some sort of loyalty scheme JR says about looking after season ticket holders which is fair enough (i am one of them) but there should be a second tier support scheme for everyone where by all fans who go to home games get 1 point, away games categorised between either 2 or 3 points depending on distance.

Link it in to when buying tickets for home or away games either at the ground or online (enter membership number) - season ticket holders also automatically get 23 points each year for all home games for future years when potentially unable to get a season ticket.

Then when big games come around allow tickets to be purchased based on certain levels of loyalty points until those who only attend once every 5 years get a turn.

Not only this it allows the club to know who have attended in recent years, try to understand why they have stopped and entice them back.

It mutually benefits both the club through building a customer / marketing database and the genuine MTFC supporter.
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby Beano » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:10 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
Beano wrote:No ones been shafted - because everyone has a choice.

If you don't think a season ticket is a good deal, buy a membership card :roll:


Yes they have. If you're a regular season ticket holder in Quarry Lane; you've sat in there for years, stayed loyal by buying a season ticket and like the idea of holding a season ticket to put you in the rightfully advantageous place of being first in the line for potential fixtures, and, to avoid messing about queuing for advanced tickets for every individual game, then you're being done over. It's not about choice it's about simplicity and being rewarded for throwing your all in for the season when some membership card holders will chuck it in.

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ST holders get guaranteed seat (members don’t)
ST holders get first dibs of their seat at big cup games (members don’t)
ST holders don’t have to organise a match ticket prior to game (members do)

If you want those advantages buy a ST, if you want to save a few quid and lose those advantages get a membership card.

How is anyone shafted/kicked in the nads here???

Neither scheme is compulsory btw ;)

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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby Sneag » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:21 pm

Beano wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Beano wrote:No ones been shafted - because everyone has a choice.

If you don't think a season ticket is a good deal, buy a membership card :roll:


Yes they have. If you're a regular season ticket holder in Quarry Lane; you've sat in there for years, stayed loyal by buying a season ticket and like the idea of holding a season ticket to put you in the rightfully advantageous place of being first in the line for potential fixtures, and, to avoid messing about queuing for advanced tickets for every individual game, then you're being done over. It's not about choice it's about simplicity and being rewarded for throwing your all in for the season when some membership card holders will chuck it in.

Eyes rolled a thousand times.


ST holders get guaranteed seat (members don’t)
ST holders get first dibs of their seat at big cup games (members don’t)
ST holders don’t have to organise a match ticket prior to game (members do)

If you want those advantages buy a ST, if you want to save a few quid and lose those advantages get a membership card.

How is anyone shafted/kicked in the nads here???

Neither scheme is compulsory btw ;)

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ST holders got a 20% hike on their ticket prices, members didn't. ;)
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby Beano » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:35 pm

Sneag wrote:
Beano wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Beano wrote:No ones been shafted - because everyone has a choice.

If you don't think a season ticket is a good deal, buy a membership card :roll:


Yes they have. If you're a regular season ticket holder in Quarry Lane; you've sat in there for years, stayed loyal by buying a season ticket and like the idea of holding a season ticket to put you in the rightfully advantageous place of being first in the line for potential fixtures, and, to avoid messing about queuing for advanced tickets for every individual game, then you're being done over. It's not about choice it's about simplicity and being rewarded for throwing your all in for the season when some membership card holders will chuck it in.

Eyes rolled a thousand times.


ST holders get guaranteed seat (members don’t)
ST holders get first dibs of their seat at big cup games (members don’t)
ST holders don’t have to organise a match ticket prior to game (members do)

If you want those advantages buy a ST, if you want to save a few quid and lose those advantages get a membership card.

How is anyone shafted/kicked in the nads here???

Neither scheme is compulsory btw ;)

A million eye rolls to anyone thinking they’re shafted, You’re not (you have a clear choice same as anyone else!)


ST holders got a 20% hike on their ticket prices, members didn't. ;)


Then buy a membership card :thumbup:
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby cassellswasmagic » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:34 pm

fgs this is primary school stuff lol. Either get one or get the other depending on your situation. The issue of priority tickets is silly because we hardly play any big games and if we did you would be ok with the members card as I am sure that comes after ST and the argument over having exactly the same seat is playground childishness at its best. Same seat or one very close, does it really matter? Are you the sort of person that sits in exactly the same seat wherever you go. Stags supporters really try and put a downer on every little detail. You couldn’t write it!!!
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby edwinscott » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:05 pm

The only one being ‘shafted’ is Radford himself. If anyone reads what he said he is trying to get an atmosphere going in the QLE like the good old days of the north stand and is prepared to take a financial hit for it. If we are doing well then more will come through the gates and add to this. Either get one or don’t you have a choice. Some will moan for the sake of it anyway.
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby part time pete » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:21 pm

Doubt if he is actually taking a hit as against this year.

By doing this membership lark he has put up the price of the away supporter tickets.

At an average of 500 folk per game and an increase of £4 per ticket means an extra £2k per game.

So increase of 46k per year. Doubt the home scheme will have cost him that much.
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:41 pm

cassellswasmagic wrote:fgs this is primary school stuff lol. Either get one or get the other depending on your situation. The issue of priority tickets is silly because we hardly play any big games and if we did you would be ok with the members card as I am sure that comes after ST and the argument over having exactly the same seat is playground childishness at its best. Same seat or one very close, does it really matter? Are you the sort of person that sits in exactly the same seat wherever you go. Stags supporters really try and put a downer on every little detail. You couldn’t write it!!!
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If you think it's primary school stuff then clearly it doesn't affect you.

I don't sit in that stand but if this incentive was designed in the part of the ground where I've sat and had a season ticket for the last ten years I'd be annoyed at having to pay more than the person in front of me with their membership card, even though I'd handed over my full annual subscription in whole - telling the club: "I'm backing you no matter how the season may pan out. Mr Membership Card might bin you off in December because he's fickle but I'm in this for the duration. In return you can forgive me the faff of using your staff's time by not requiring to use them to get tickets every week and I can have first dibs at any glamour fixtures, thank you."

It's not moaning for the sake of it, it's common decency to just look after those that have put the most faith in you. Anyone thinking differently must be a bit simple or perhaps lacking in moral fibre.
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:58 pm

I have no problem whatsoever with the idea of a membership scheme. Something needs doing to attract punters back to the QLE.
My only criticism is that it shouldn't be in favour of people, such as Jamie, who prefer to have a season ticket and are willing to back the club from the outset. The thought of it is mental and folks not getting the argument must not understand the concept of investing in a season ticket.

The real irony is that for youngsters (under 21s) - the most neglected age group of MTFC support - its still cheaper to get a QLE season ticket than a fully season-used membership card. So the only real winners of this membership card price discretion (getting on £80 better off) are adults. But MTFC under JR have never really 'got' kids have they?

This was clearly designed on a ripped beer mat.

Mind you, JR has said in the past that he doesn't like the way that season tickets work. Which seems bizarre to me as its on the sports equivalent of a business deal: you give me this, we'll give you that.
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby yorkstag » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:20 pm

I think whats needed is a properly thought out ticket strategy probably over a few years

I am a season ticket holder so am perhaps a bit biased but this is the group who are less sensitive to performance on the pitch and will turn up come what may

The increase for over 60's for exisiting ST's has been shelved this year but suspect will be implemented, Now no matter what the views are on 60's and 65's that's one hell of a hike

I applaud the membership scheme and its intentions but in my view it could have been competitively priced without being a better deal than season ticket holders. I find it slightly amusing that someone posted that they are a member because if its too wet or mid table ( can't remember the detailed words or poster and cant be bothered to look ) - that's not supporting a club and would guess it would be very difficult to move such fans to season ticket holders

I also think the issue of young supporters needs looking at as that's where we can make it easy for families and to be fair we do some great deals

The overall objective should be to keep those that are longstanding customers and attract and keep new ones. In Insurance you price to attract then increase prices - inertia doesn't work in football

I'm not a big fan of special offers as I think that just distorts the overall pricing model

I think the club do some good things but have felt for some time they miss a trick as there doesn't appear to be an over arching strategy. Something for the SSA?
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:26 pm

No one is shafted. No one forced anyone to buy any tickets of any sort. Stop whining, pick the deal you think makes best sense for you and buy it.
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby I am Spartacus » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:00 pm

bellwhiff wrote:No one is shafted. No one forced anyone to buy any tickets of any sort. Stop whining, pick the deal you think makes best sense for you and buy it.


Hate to admit it and I rather would not but I have to agree with Belly on this one.
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:29 pm

Well I don't unfortunately, so I must be a whinger, despite spending most of the time being in the top 5% most positive people on a board full of whiners.
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Re: Quarry Lane Membership and Season Tickets

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:48 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:Well I don't unfortunately, so I must be a whinger, despite spending most of the time being in the top 5% most positive people on a board full of whiners.


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