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Set pieces

Postby Stafford » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:18 pm

Aside from the ‘one from the training ground’ that Macca had a well saved effort from, anyone else think our set pieces were poor today? Always seems to be that way when Byrom isn’t playing.

Still, if that’s all I have to moan about it can’t have been a bad match day! Fingers crossed for a good draw tomorrow!
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Re: Set pieces

Postby I am Spartacus » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:44 pm

Most fans, when their team are awarded a free kick on the edge of the penalty area are thinking of the net bursting following a well thought out routine that has been drilled into the side on the training pitch.

Me - I am thinking of which poor sod in the Quarry Lane end is going to get the ball whacked into his mush as we hammer another one high, wide and anywhere other than goal bound.

Where have the dead ball specialists gone?
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Re: Set pieces

Postby Vice President » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:49 pm

You would think that this should be one of the primary things that they are working on on the training ground?
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Re: Set pieces

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:01 pm

We have scored a hell of a lot more goals from set peices since evans and raynor came in, most of them assisted from byrom. macdonald is a good set peice taker too but we don’t seem to have found the player who can score free kicks
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Re: Set pieces

Postby Vice President » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:03 pm

Byrom's free kicks are excellent - and have led to many goals. But when he isn't in the team we struggle with set pieces. I hope he isn't out for long!
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Re: Set pieces

Postby MTFCMusings » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:05 pm

Corners were fine, as were long grange free kicks. It's the shooting range ones which is the problem. We have nobody who can take one really, although very few teams do. To say most teams are expecting the net to bulge is an exaggeration.
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Re: Set pieces

Postby ParisStag » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:21 pm

I think Mellis or Angol would have taken the direct free kicks if they'd been on.
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Re: Set pieces

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:42 pm

Let Logan take them.
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Re: Set pieces

Postby AndyStag » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:30 pm

I am Spartacus wrote:Most fans, when their team are awarded a free kick on the edge of the penalty area are thinking of the net bursting following a well thought out routine that has been drilled into the side on the training pitch.

Me - I am thinking of which poor sod in the Quarry Lane end is going to get the ball whacked into his mush as we hammer another one high, wide and anywhere other than goal bound.

Where have the dead ball specialists gone?


Mal Benning is probably our most dangerous set piece taker but can't even get a place on the bench. He'd be a starter for me over Hunt every time. Whatever he may lack defensively he more than makes up for attacking wise.
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Re: Set pieces

Postby halifaxstag » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:29 pm

[quote="MTFCMusings"]Corners were fine, as were long grange free kicks. It's the shooting range ones which is the problem. We have nobody who can take one really, although very few teams do. To say most teams are expecting the net to bulge is an exaggeration.[/quote]
True. Even in the top leagues in Europe only 30% of shots from direct free kicks are on target (70% off target). Of those only 1 in 6 ends up as a goal with the keeper saving the rest. That’s only a 5% success rate. I believe Cristiano Ronaldo scores around 7%.
Having said that, we don’t even seem to get 1 in 10 on target and many are way off target. Perhaps, knowing this success/ failure rate by anyone, we should be looking at variations most of the time.
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Re: Set pieces

Postby pemill » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:58 pm

For sure MacDonald isn't a free kick specialist, he tends to be the one taking direct kicks just outside the box but I haven't seen him hit the target let alone score. What a waste of time the centre backs making there way up into the box if it's just going to be blasted aimlessly out for a goal kick.
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Re: Set pieces

Postby bobbystagsfan » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:03 pm

pemill wrote:For sure MacDonald isn't a free kick specialist, he tends to be the one taking direct kicks just outside the box but I haven't seen him hit the target let alone score. What a waste of time the centre backs making there way up into the box if it's just going to be blasted aimlessly out for a goal kick.



You weren’t there yesterday because macdonald got one on target ;)
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Re: Set pieces

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:02 pm

pemill wrote:For sure MacDonald isn't a free kick specialist, he tends to be the one taking direct kicks just outside the box but I haven't seen him hit the target let alone score. What a waste of time the centre backs making there way up into the box if it's just going to be blasted aimlessly out for a goal kick.



True PM, although without them moving towards goal it makes our intentions even more obvious and marking our players for any deflections so easy!

Tbh, given all the tweaking / refining since the start of the season, i'm relatively happy with this being a main concern. Now the team is playing better i'd expect this to start cropping up on the training radar
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Re: Set pieces

Postby pemill » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:03 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
pemill wrote:For sure MacDonald isn't a free kick specialist, he tends to be the one taking direct kicks just outside the box but I haven't seen him hit the target let alone score. What a waste of time the centre backs making there way up into the box if it's just going to be blasted aimlessly out for a goal kick.



You weren’t there yesterday because macdonald got one on target ;)


Ah Yes but not a direct free kick, it was a nicely worked training ground move which nearly paid off
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