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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby The One » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:43 pm

yorkshire stag wrote:
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Spiritater wrote:What are you waffling on about? Are you still tipsy from that pint Yorkie bought you Saturday?


You started the hypothetical stuff and notice the :D Also the tight wad did not buy me a drink for the place was heaving.


‘‘twas the thought that counts “


:D :D :D You never even bought the lady a drink?
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:11 pm

Assuming the points required to achieve automatic promotion (top 3) is 83.

Current Table,

PLD........W........D.......L.......PTS
38..........16........15......7........63

Required, for 83 points total,

PLD.......W.......D.......L.........PTS
.8...........6........2........0.........20

This season our PPG is 1.66 (currently on target to finish on 76 points = Play-offs)

We need to average 2.50 PPG in our last 8 games to get to 83 points.

Well, what a time to hit RELEGATION FORM 3 points from 4 games :shock:

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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby old ram stag » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:35 pm

no
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:39 pm

This thread needs to be changed to "can we make the playoffs" ? I'll start with an emphatic NO.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Stags 2002 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:55 pm

We won't make play-offs on that showing today.

Players just don't look bothered i'm afraid to say.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:01 pm

I have been a big believer we'd sneak into the top 3 but I don't think it'll happen now. We haven't been good enough for top 3 all season
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby stagsfan6493 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:04 pm

It’s time to start worrying about the top 7 rather than the top 3!
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Amberheart » Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:05 pm

Amberheart wrote:I still believe we can do it , but maybe the Mansfield Town way lose at FGR but beat Accy & Looouun ! Up the Stags !

Hope I'm right :?
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Stags 2002 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:30 pm

Again this analysis is assuming we take an average of 4 pts from each team (where possible) over the course of the season.

Path was previously 87 points however now revised to 86 after the defeat at Swindon, reduced to 84 points after the draw against Colchester and further reduced to 83 points after a loss at FGR. Our required result in brackets, followed by the actual result, impact and cumulative position.

***UPDATED***

Home vs.Cheltenham (W) (W) -+0pts (87 pts)
Morecambe vs. Away (D) (W) +2pts (89 pts)
Home vs.Barnet (W) (W) -+0pts (89 pts)
Swindon vs. Away (W) (L) -3pts (86 pts)
Home vs.Newport County (W) (W) -+0pts (86 pts)
Exeter vs. Away (W) (W) -+0pts (86 pts)
Home vs.Coventry (D) (D) -+0pts (86 pts)
Home vs.Lincoln City (D) (D) -+0pts (86 pts)
Home vs.Colchester (W) (D) -2pts (84 pts)
Notts County vs. Away (D) (D) +-0pts (84 pts)
Forest Green vs. Away (D) (L) -1pt (83 pts)
Home vs.Accrington (W)
Luton vs. Away (W)
Home vs.Crewe (W)
Stevenage vs. Away (D)
Chesterfield vs. Away (W)
Home vs.Port Vale (D)
Yeovil vs. Away (W)
Home vs.Crawley (W)

6 wins and 2 draws will be tough to achieve given current form, but we need something like this if we are to gain automatic promotion.

However that being said of the 11 games 7 games have gone as forecasted, lets hope the next 8 are also in line with the above forecast and we can get 83 points.

Now need to get some wins chalked up.

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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Vice President » Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:55 pm

We will not finish in the top 3.
At the beginning of the season, I publicly declared that we would finish 8th. (Desperately hoping that I would be proved wrong).
At the three quarter stage, just before Evans departed, I was confident that we would at least secure a play-off place: not totally confident of a top 3 place, but still hoping and believing that we could achieve promotion somehow.
Sadly, I think that my original prediction will materialise. :(
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Stags 2002 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:32 pm

VP i personally think we will also fall short of play-offs, however i started the analysis and intend to keep going with it as ironically it did point to a slump in form as we'd already beaten the middle group of teams earlier in the season.

I don't think it will happen but lets hope that the pick up in form is also forecasted correctly.

That being said I do expect a response from the players on Friday, yes its against Accrington - even more reason for them to provide a response to the shower of raspberry i and the other 400+ witnessed yesterday.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby tillydog123 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:39 pm

Top 3 well gone now and we need to try for play offs as a minimum requirement.
We need to try to consider the use of the players maybe who have not had much of a chance of late and see if they can freshen things up, why not at least start with maybe Digby and Miller and maybe give Penney some time.
With Pearce off the boil and now Diamond not fit, wish we had tried to keep Taft going a bit more.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:06 pm

Assuming the points required to achieve automatic promotion (top 3) is 84.

Current Table,

PLD........W........D.......L.......PTS
39..........16........15......8........63

Required, for 84 points total,

PLD.......W.......D.......L.........PTS
.7...........7........0.......0...........21

This season our PPG is 1.62 (currently on target to finish on 74 points = Play-offs)

In the current form table, last 6 games, with our 4 points we're 22nd :shock: with only Crawley & Grimsby below us.

I done the Fishy calculator and got Accy, Luton & Wycombe promoted.
Play-offs Coventry, Exeter, Stags & Lincoln, (Notts Co 8th)
so we'd have travel to Exeter to see if we make it to Wembley.

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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 7

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:30 pm

Assuming the points required to be in the Play-offs (top 7) is 75.

Current Table,
PLD........W........D.......L.......PTS
40..........16........15......9........63

Required, for 75 points total,
PLD.......W.......D.......L.........PTS
.6...........4........0.......2...........12

Our last 18 games with Steve Evans
PLD.......W.......D.......L.........PTS.......PPG
.18.........11......5........2..........38........2.11
David Flitcroft
..6...........0.......3........3...........3.........0.50

We lost only 6 games out of 37 games, now we've lost 3 out of 3 !

Stags last win was 17th February!

That's some change in fortunes :shock: even the Spireites are in better form!

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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 7

Postby Amber Andy » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:37 pm

We could still get the last playoff place, but we have GOT to win at least four of the last six, and ideally not lose the other two. Coventry got hammered today, and they are currently in the last playoff place. A few weeks ago Lincoln appeared to have blown it, but are now comfortably in the playoffs. So things can change, but we need to end this dismal run.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 7

Postby Rigsby » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:52 pm

We now have 6 games left, all against teams in the bottom half. We clearly CAN still do it but the players and management team need to step up. However, if we did manage to go up I'm not sure how many of this team/squad could cut it in League One.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 7

Postby I am Spartacus » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:54 pm

No - current form is relegation. Finish top half and with a sound basis for the summer.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 7

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:18 pm

I am Spartacus wrote:No - current form is relegation. Finish top half and with a sound basis for the summer.

I agree with the “No”
Disagree with “current form is relegation”
You’re right - this season has turned into a building block for next season.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 7

Postby halifaxstag » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:24 pm

We’ve now got the easiest run of any of the top half, so we have got to start taking our chances. We have played well against the top 2 clubs over the weekend and could/should have beaten both of them. We just need to take the right attitude into these matches, particularly the ones where the opposition are fighting for L2 survival.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 7

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:33 pm

halifaxstag wrote:We’ve now got the easiest run of any of the top half, so we have got to start taking our chances. We have played well against the top 2 clubs over the weekend and could/should have beaten both of them. We just need to take the right attitude into these matches, particularly the ones where the opposition are fighting for L2 survival.


Yes, we've now got the easiest run-in ;)

I'm still confident we'll be in the play-offs, then anything can happen , even winning promotion at Wembley :D

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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 7

Postby Amber Andy » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:46 pm

halifaxstag wrote:We’ve now got the easiest run of any of the top half, so we have got to start taking our chances. We have played well against the top 2 clubs over the weekend and could/should have beaten both of them. We just need to take the right attitude into these matches, particularly the ones where the opposition are fighting for L2 survival.
I think that's the problem. We have lost three on the spin. So is the players confidence shot ?The teams at the bottom are fighting for league status, as we found out when we played Forest Green. There are no easy games and we can't afford to slip up. I think Saturday's game is huge.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 7

Postby Vice President » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:33 pm

There are no easy games in league 2 - as FGR showed us and Yeovil showed Coventry today, and if you think that Chesterfield are going to roll over - then think again.
We probably need to win 4 out of the last 6 games to secure a play-off place. It is certainly possible, but given that we haven't won a game for over 7 games and that we struggle to keep a clean sheet & struggle to score more than one goal per game ..... I really can't see that happening. But we live in hope.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 7

Postby Kernow » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:05 am

Not likely.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 7

Postby tillydog123 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:26 am

We will not win 4 games maybe 2 or 3 and Forest Green were the nailed on victory to re start the charge....the rest is history.
Its so sad as we had done so well and even with all the draws and 3 defeats in a row we are still within touching distance, this the maddening part of it all.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 7

Postby scottyd281 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:35 am

My heart is crying out yes, but my head is actually saying don't think so. Our current form is on par if not worse than Grimsby Town. I don't blame DF and his support staff, they have had to get to understand the players, how they tick etc. Yes we can blame the players to some degree, but the last two games you can see they are fighting for their new manager. Arguably the transfer dealings in the summer such as Spencer, Murfin, Sterling J and some others are debatable some would say a waste; however IMO the only person to blame for this is the Fat raspberry who left, he always said it would come together after Xmas, well we all know now what he meant by that. I honestly believe his move was planned way b4 xmas break as Posh was in a top 8 position. The Radfords, supporters and the players was sold down the river and I really do hope SE and his sidekick gets his just deserves and they will. I do really feel for the Radfords after the support they have and are giving and believe DF needs more time as no doubt there will be folk leaving in the summer, question is who as we all know it takes time for new players to gel, well thats what the man who shall never be named (fat raspberry) use to say. I shall continue to go to the games and try and repay some the the £ the Radfords have invested in to this team in the little I can afford. COYS
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