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New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby STAGS FOR LIFE » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:06 am

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Been on radio this morning that J R wants to build a hotel there ,does this mean the one at the ground is not happening now

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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Spiritater » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:12 am

You'd think so. Access to town is better. A better and larger area. What benefit it is to the club is nil though.
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Waggy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:12 am

Spiritater wrote:You'd think so. Access to town is better. A better and larger area. What benefit it is to the club is nil though.


Haven't JR and Steve Hymas set up a building company with the aim of generating profit for the club? If this is the case, it will benefit the club, assuming the venture is profitable
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby stag324 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:42 am

I would imagine Hilton have been and done a site visit and suggested the bus station as a better location, which I agree is.
It will benefit the club indirectly, if not directly.
I.e. away teams staying there, deals for football fans, more cash generated for JR leading to more investment.
On top of that the whole town would benefit from a decent hotel.
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Martin Shaw » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:44 am

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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Random Hero » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:50 am

No doubt Mansfield District Council will block the move, just as they did when they wanted to put Nandos/Chiquitos and a Casino there.

They'll probably put it up on the Odeon cinema retail park, because the traffic situation there is deaaaaaaad good...
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Chander Lear » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:58 am

theyve needed to sort that eye sore out for some time. I was hoping they'd move the the nandos et al from the Cinema area there, but having a hotel in the town centre would be ACE.
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby James » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:25 am

Random Hero wrote:No doubt Mansfield District Council will block the move, just as they did when they wanted to put Nandos/Chiquitos and a Casino there.

They'll probably put it up on the Odeon cinema retail park, because the traffic situation there is deaaaaaaad good...


Never knew that. Just shows how backward thinking our Council is.
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Sneag » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:46 am

Best place for it.
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Chander Lear » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:47 pm

James wrote:
Random Hero wrote:No doubt Mansfield District Council will block the move, just as they did when they wanted to put Nandos/Chiquitos and a Casino there.

They'll probably put it up on the Odeon cinema retail park, because the traffic situation there is deaaaaaaad good...


Never knew that. Just shows how backward thinking our Council is.


Yeh plans were afoot, but basically they wanted to follow the trend of lesuire parks accross the country
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Sneag » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:29 pm

Chander Lear wrote:
James wrote:
Random Hero wrote:No doubt Mansfield District Council will block the move, just as they did when they wanted to put Nandos/Chiquitos and a Casino there.

They'll probably put it up on the Odeon cinema retail park, because the traffic situation there is deaaaaaaad good...


Never knew that. Just shows how backward thinking our Council is.


Yeh plans were afoot, but basically they wanted to follow the trend of lesuire parks accross the country


They want to wedge a load of house into the Quarry Lane on the nature reserve too, that should help the traffic flow no end.
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Opus » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:38 pm

Sneag Access will be via Quarry Lane for that development
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:19 pm

Random Hero wrote:No doubt Mansfield District Council will block the move, just as they did when they wanted to put Nandos/Chiquitos and a Casino there.

They'll probably put it up on the Odeon cinema retail park, because the traffic situation there is deaaaaaaad good...



Guess it depends on whether those prior decisions were swayed by Alan Me-Me-Me-Meale?

Hotel at the old bus station would be perfect for the millions of worldwide Quaker followers flocking to it's birthplace ;)
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby daddycool » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:50 pm

The council have been trying for a long time to get a quality Hotel in the town but they all want to be on a main Rd for .access reasons.
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Sneag » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:32 pm

Opus wrote:Sneag Access will be via Quarry Lane for that development



So is there going to be no access from Quarry Lane into Nottingham Rd in future?

There's still 3 substantial brownfield sites in that area that should be developed before a nature reserve gets contreted over anyway.
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Sneag » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:33 pm

MutinyOnTheCounty wrote:
Random Hero wrote:No doubt Mansfield District Council will block the move, just as they did when they wanted to put Nandos/Chiquitos and a Casino there.

They'll probably put it up on the Odeon cinema retail park, because the traffic situation there is deaaaaaaad good...



Guess it depends on whether those prior decisions were swayed by Alan Me-Me-Me-Meale?

Hotel at the old bus station would be perfect for the millions of worldwide Quaker followers flocking to it's birthplace ;)


It can't have been anything to do with Meale as I think we were all in agreement that Sir Alan did bugger all.
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:52 pm

Sneag wrote:
MutinyOnTheCounty wrote:
Random Hero wrote:No doubt Mansfield District Council will block the move, just as they did when they wanted to put Nandos/Chiquitos and a Casino there.

They'll probably put it up on the Odeon cinema retail park, because the traffic situation there is deaaaaaaad good...



Guess it depends on whether those prior decisions were swayed by Alan Me-Me-Me-Meale?

Hotel at the old bus station would be perfect for the millions of worldwide Quaker followers flocking to it's birthplace ;)


It can't have been anything to do with Meale as I think we were all in agreement that Sir Alan did bugger all.



True Sneag - but doing 'bugger all' could stretch to him having a word with the planning approval chief over a taxpayer-funded pint & pastie in Il Rosso and telling him to bury it. For Meale, doing naff all was the perfect way to lead an easy life while blaming all lack of progress on the Gov't in power....

I'll admit that is probably far too cunning and proactive for a man of his means though!! :P

Anyhoo - back on topic, once this hotel is built it'll bring a few groats into the town. Just think of all those wealthy Americans coming over to stare at a plaque of some bloke resembling the logo to a packet of porridge ;)
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Spiritater » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:35 pm

Sneag wrote:
Chander Lear wrote:
James wrote:
Random Hero wrote:No doubt Mansfield District Council will block the move, just as they did when they wanted to put Nandos/Chiquitos and a Casino there.

They'll probably put it up on the Odeon cinema retail park, because the traffic situation there is deaaaaaaad good...


Never knew that. Just shows how backward thinking our Council is.


Yeh plans were afoot, but basically they wanted to follow the trend of lesuire parks accross the country


They want to wedge a load of house into the Quarry Lane on the nature reserve too, that should help the traffic flow no end.


I'm assuming this block of land is the old Gregory Quarry site under the bridge and at the back of Sainsburys. It's not a nature reserve but a doss hole for smackheads and vagrants.
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Opus » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:53 pm

Sneag I did not say the access to Nottingham Rd will be blocked at all, only the access to the new housing development in the old Quarry.
To which other Brownfield sites do you refer
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Sneag » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:00 pm

Opus wrote:Sneag I did not say the access to Nottingham Rd will be blocked at all, only the access to the new housing development in the old Quarry.
To which other Brownfield sites do you refer


It was a question. Did I not put a ??.

Empty brownfields on Brewery site and Metal Box.

Emptyish (lorry trailer parks & temporary car parks) Sheepbridge Ln and Meridian site.

Derelict and in need of redevolopment. The area adjacent to the station where one factory burnt and another is slowly falling down. The whole area between White Hart St and Dame Flogan St. (Post office depot, jam factory etc)

Smaller sites opposite Town Mill where Charlie Browns was, the top end of Princess/Victoria St where the old council flats were demolished.

I'd sooner see all the above redeveloped before we lose another blade of grass in the town.
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby The One » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:17 pm

Sneag wrote:
Opus wrote:Sneag I did not say the access to Nottingham Rd will be blocked at all, only the access to the new housing development in the old Quarry.
To which other Brownfield sites do you refer


It was a question. Did I not put a ??.

Empty brownfields on Brewery site and Metal Box.

Emptyish (lorry trailer parks & temporary car parks) Sheepbridge Ln and Meridian site.

Derelict and in need of redevolopment. The area adjacent to the station where one factory burnt and another is slowly falling down. The whole area between White Hart St and Dame Flogan St. (Post office depot, jam factory etc)

Smaller sites opposite Town Mill where Charlie Browns was, the top end of Princess/Victoria St where the old council flats were demolished.

I'd sooner see all the above redeveloped before we lose another blade of grass in the town.


That area from Market Place down was designated for new shopping development inc new Marks and Spencers etc. Do not know if planning still in situ must be 20 years ago. It went from Market Place down to where Village club was.
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Martin Shaw » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:20 am

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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Marky Mark » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:38 am

Am I the only person wondering why, of all the hotel brands to be the first to open in one of the most economically deprived areas of the UK, that its one of the UK's most Premium ones? There wouldn't be a room in a Hilton for much less than £100 a night. Surely if you're intending to attract more people to visit and stay in Mansfield, then you have to make the accomodation priced to reflect the fact that once they get out of the front door there's not all that much to take a picture of. Its a bit like opening a cocktail bar at Field Mill.
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby mousemousemouse » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:53 am

Marky Mark wrote:Am I the only person wondering why, of all the hotel brands to be the first to open in one of the most economically deprived areas of the UK, that its one of the UK's most Premium ones? There wouldn't be a room in a Hilton for much less than £100 a night. Surely if you're intending to attract more people to visit and stay in Mansfield, then you have to make the accomodation priced to reflect the fact that once they get out of the front door there's not all that much to take a picture of. Its a bit like opening a cocktail bar at Field Mill.


I've yet to pay more than £65 for a night in a Hampton by Hilton (albeit only stopped in 5/6) and that included breakfast too. The Hampton by Hilton is the lower, budget-friendly brand.

Also, the town is economically deprived but the logic isn't to attract local people to stay. It's to attract people from outside of the town.

Personally, I think this is part of John Radfords "Mansfield in the Championship" plan. Imagine if we're playing teams like Bristol City and they have nowhere big enough to stay? It would be a missed opportunity. And would they want to stop in a travelodge?
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Re: New Hotel on the old Mansfield bus station

Postby Marky Mark » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:41 am

mousemousemouse wrote:
Marky Mark wrote:Am I the only person wondering why, of all the hotel brands to be the first to open in one of the most economically deprived areas of the UK, that its one of the UK's most Premium ones? There wouldn't be a room in a Hilton for much less than £100 a night. Surely if you're intending to attract more people to visit and stay in Mansfield, then you have to make the accomodation priced to reflect the fact that once they get out of the front door there's not all that much to take a picture of. Its a bit like opening a cocktail bar at Field Mill.


I've yet to pay more than £65 for a night in a Hampton by Hilton (albeit only stopped in 5/6) and that included breakfast too. The Hampton by Hilton is the lower, budget-friendly brand.

Also, the town is economically deprived but the logic isn't to attract local people to stay. It's to attract people from outside of the town.

Personally, I think this is part of John Radfords "Mansfield in the Championship" plan. Imagine if we're playing teams like Bristol City and they have nowhere big enough to stay? It would be a missed opportunity. And would they want to stop in a travelodge?


If the hotel is the lower, budget-friendly brand then it makes absolute sense.
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