Rob wrote: nick_stags wrote: Rob wrote:
BigGuy wrote:How quickly it is forgotten that Murray played Rose on the left wing!
He may have signed him but didn't know where to play him.
Unlike Evans who wasn't picking him at all. Murray, sadly, failed with us but compared to Evans was given a small budget and achieved similar results in similar style (ie poor) - I would argue that despite his failure, the players Murray signed on lower wages are better than the ones signed by Evans. The apologists for our poor season continue to surprise and sadden me. Evans did not see Rose in his first eleven at the start of the season
, now he does, not due to managerial brilliance, but due to the fact that the players he signed are simply not as good. Had Evans not had the reputation he has for success, he'd have been sacked by now. Lets hope we see some sort of improvement, soon.
Rose started the first three league games so not sure how you come to that conclusion.
Look at Rose's scoring record since Evans took over, it's very impressive.
Simple Nick, he played the first three games then was dropped and spent the next 6 games on the bench. Only when it became apparent he'd signed duds did he revert to Danny Rose, who should have been playing all along. I said at the time it was who partnered Rose that should have been the question. We are bottom half, generally our performances have been terrible yet you and Bobby claim Evans has made Rose a better player - well if he has it is a shame that so far he has made the former League 1 players worse!
Rose is an excellent footballer and as I have said many times will play higher than League 2 soon, Evans is very fortunate he was already here.
Regarding SE, can you please move one way or the other Rob? Right now i just can't figure out which side of the fence you are with this!
Actually, screw the fence, you'd rip it down to get over and have a word at Evans
I see where you're coming from bud, but tbh a manager rarely wins. If he'd bought strikers and not given them a chance fans would moan we were harking back to the Cox era. So, for me at least, SE was right to give his new strikeforce 6 games and then rightly called the changes when it didn't work. Evans is still on square 1 in showing us he can make this team into promotion contenders, but i'm prepared to give him time, given the permutations this oversized squad has. The team size in itself is one of his main failings for me - we have too many players to settle into an organised squad that anticipate each other and play fluently. Nor does it develop team spirit and make us one of those 'never say die' gritty teams that refuse to lie down.
We're at the point of the season where clubs with smaller squads are starting to become cohesive, and Stags are being left behind while our leviathan line-up still assembles into something we can call a winning side. Clubs that acquired 3 or 4 regular 1st teamers are now bedded-in and producing results - i think it'll be another few months till we get close to that. That said, we're sick of cut-price managerial appointments and restrictive player budgets, so we have to give this venture a fair chance and full support. No way could we pay off Evans and afford to reassemble a new squad with the next gaffer, only for our fans to decry that his successor has let the best players go, once they're off playing well elsewhere.
I can already see the thread title to that scenario - 'selling diamonds to buy zircons'
Patience Rob, it'll all come good or Evans will hang himself with all the rope he was supplied at the start of the season