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Stagsnet statistical preview Carlisle at home

Postby Sweden Stag » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:51 pm

Two sides which currently are in a terrible goal-scoring drought face each other at One Call Stadium this forthcoming Saturday.

The tale is of the Stags, without a goal scored in four fixtures, against Carlisle, who haven’t netted in five and who also registered their first goal-less draw of the season in the home fixture against Luton Town a few days ago.

Nevertheless, Carlisle sit in the playoff zone six points adrift of third-placed Portsmouth, while the Stags are a few places below the playoff zone.

So, ending the goal drought when it comes to scoring is instrumental in the playoff hunt for the remainder of the current season.

And the Stags seek revenge for the 5-2 defeat at Carlisle in the first Stags away game under Steve Evans management last November after a much-below-par Stags defensive display, with Charlie Wyke scoring three times. But has the sale of Wyke to Bradford City affected the scoring form of the Cumbrians?

This will be the Cumbrians’ third visit to Mansfield following their relegation from League One in 2014. And their visit to Mansfield in September 2014 was their first one in eight seasons and also the first with former Stasg boss Keith Curle as Carlisle’s current one.

In that game, one of the Stags loaness currently playing, Hayden White played his first Carlisle game on loan from Bolton.

But during Keith Curle’s tenure as Stags boss, the Stags won 2-0 at Carlisle on November 15, 2003, thus then being a record-breaker for Carlisle interms of consecutive losses as this was their ninth out of twelve.

On a few occasions, games between the sides have decided promotion for either side. Both sides have secured promotion in games at Mansfield, while a Carlisle 3-0 win during Easter 2015 secured the Cumbrians’ first-ever campaign at second level fifty years ago.

The Stags' latest FL promotion was achieved in a home fixture against the Cumbrians. This was also to be the previewer's first-ever visit to Mansfield. On April 20, 2002, the Stags beat Carlisle 2-0 thanks to two early strikes from Wayne Corden and Andy White. Out of the Stags players who then appeared in our home win against Carlisle in 2002, three figured last season. Craig Disley for Grimsby, Lee Williamson for Blackburn and Adam Murray. His final game in his first Stags spell, then on loan from Derby County, was the game in April 2002. Little did he know then that he was also to take part in the Stags' promotion to the FL exactly on the day eleven years later!!! But in between, Murray had had another Stags spell as well as spells at other clubs, securing FL returns for two of those. He was in the Oxford side which returned in 2010, but had a second spell at the Stags for most of the 2004-05 season which started with the above-mentioned Curle as Stags boss.

Five years before the game at Field Mill in 2002, Carlisle secured promotion by playing the so far only goal-less game at Mansfield in league and cup fixtures. The Cumbrians also secured promotion at Mansfield in 2006 thanks to a 90th minute equalizer-

And in two Stags promotion campaigns, Carlisle were by-passed. This happened in our first-ever one from Division Four in 1962-63 and also when the Stags were promoted to the FL second for the so far only time in Stags FL history.

And the 2001-02 final day victory was sweet revenge on Carlisle, who exactly on the day 37 years earlier, had beaten the Stags to their first-ever promotion to the old 2nd division by winning 3-0 in front of 18764 finishing as old 3rd division Champions in 1964-65, one point ahead of Bristol City and the Stags. The day before, April 19, 1965, had seen the Stags beating the Cumbrians 2-0 thanks to goals from MacReady and Curry (was the goal taste too strong for the Cumbrians at Field Mill then?) attended by 13832, the Stags’ 3rd highest home gate that season. In the 1964-65 season, Carlisle went straight through the old third Division after being second on just inferior goal-average to Gillingham in the old fourth in 1963-64. But on three other occasions, the Cumbrians have gone straight down to the basement after being promoted. It happened in 1962-63, 1995-96 and 1997-98. Carlisle also enjoyed a solitary season in the top flight (1974-75, see below) and did also manage successive relegations in the 1980’s. First going down from the second tier in 1985-86, then sliding further after i.e. losing both fixtures against the Stags in 1986-87, then finishing bottom but one in the old fourth in 1987-88, yet nearly twenty points more than rock-bottom Newport County, who incidentally the season before followed the Cumbrians to the basement.

But the Stags and the Cumbrians had faced each other several times before the 2001-02 season in which Greenacre netted the only goal of the game at Brunton Park on November 10, 2001. And here are some memorable, and maybe not so memorable, picks from earlier fixtures.

* First league game was played on September 10, 1932, when the Stags won 3-1 (scorers Johnson 2, Bowater) in the old division 3 (N), attendance 7573.

* Biggest Stags home win was a 6-0 on March 31, 1934 when 3301 saw Methven grab a hat-trick, the other scorers being Hill, Kilcar and Munnings, attendance 3301

* First win at Brunton Park was a 2-1 on January 9, 1937 when 6162 saw Wood and Atkinson seal the points

* In 1950-51, both teams were riding high in the old 3rd division (N) gaining enough points to challenge promotion against normal opposition, Mansfield 64, Carlisle 62, but Rotherham then ran away with the championship on 71 points. A brace from Freddie Steele gave the Stags a 2-1 home win on September 30, 1950

* Highest scoreline is seven goals. This has occurred on four occasions, among them are three consecutive away ties: the worst-ever defeat at Carlisle, a 1-6 on December 22, 1956, Stags scorer Darwin, a 2-5 the season before on April 12, 1956 (goals Jepson, Mitten) and a 4-3 victory early on in the 1957-58 which was the first Stags win during the last-ever division 3 (N) campaign, being achieved thanks to two goals apiece from Sammy Chapman and Dennis Uphill on August 27, 1957.

* One home game has produced seven goals as well. On March 17, 1962, the Stags won a 4th division encounter 5-2 thanks to two Peter Morris penalties, two goals from Roy Chapman and one from Ken Wagstaff in front of 5557.

The games in the 1964-65 season are mentioned above. And only three out of 66 League and FA Cup encounters have been goal-less, one being a home game on April 11, 1997 in front of the biggest Field Mill crowd that season, 4375, when the Stags manager of the 2001-02 home game, Stuart Watkiss, had a good goal disallowed the only all-time goal-less draw at Field Mill. And apart from that, the Stags have only failed to score twice at home against the Cumbrians, and on both occasions, a solitary goal was enough to seal a Carlisle victory.

Quite a few players have appeared for both sides. Two of those have played in Sweden: Ray Blackhall and Reggie Lambe. Apart from Lambe, two other Cumbrians during this season have played for the Stags: Derek Asamoah and Michael Raynes while Kevan Hurst (now on loan to National League side Guiseley) had League One experience at Carlisle earlier on this decade.

Played for both sides: Derek Asamoah, Thomas Baxter, Danny Black, Paul Black, Ray Blackhall (correct name of his Swedish club prior to joining the Stags is IK Tord from Jönköping, where he played 10 games scoring three times in the Third Division Nordöstra Götaland during the 1982 season), Dave Caldwell, Peter Clark (at Carlisle around 1998), John Clayton (1930’s), Ron Dellow, Michael Graham, Simon Grand, Alec Gray, Kevin Gray, Matthew Hill (one Stags game, at home to Gateshead on May 1, 1937, won 3-2), Wally Hunt, Kevan Hurst, Robert Hutchinson, John Jepson, Joe Laidlaw, John Lathan, Reggie Lambe (played for Nyköpings BIS in 2014 prior to joining the Stags), Tony Lowery, Jim Lumby, Dennis Martin, Junior Mendes, Jeffrey Monakana, Adam Murray, Neil Moore, Lenny Pidgeley, Michael Raynes, Don O’Riordan, Gordon Owen, Lee Peacock, John Pearson, Gordon Presgrave (one Stags goal, in a 2-3 home defeat against Tranmere on February 6, 1937), George Rudkin (one Stags game, a 2-2 home draw to Southend on October 2, 1937), Adam Rundle, Kevin Sandwith, Arthur Sharp, Jamie Squires (one Stags game on loan from Preston early on in 1997-98), Hayden White.

Played for Stags, later managed Carlisle (two spells): Roddy Collins. Played for Carlisle, later managed the Stags: Peter Shirtliff. Managed both sides: Keith Curle.

Home games: P 34, W 18, D 8, L 8, GF 65, GA 38
Away games: P 35, W 9, D 7, L 19, GF 38, GA 67

Season Home Date Away Date

1932-33 3-1 1932-09-10 1-3 1933-01-21 Div 3 (N)
1933-34 6-0 1934-03-31 2-3 1933-11-18 Div 3 (N)
1934-35 3-0 1934-10-06 1-1 1935-04-25 Div 3 (N)
1935-36 1-1 1935-10-12 0-3 1936-02-15 Div 3 (N)
1936-37 1-4 1936-09-12 2-1 1937-01-09 Div 3 (N)
1947-48 2-3 1947-09-08 1-3 1948-01-01 Div 3 (N)
1948-49 2-0 1949-04-02 1-3 1948-11-06 Div 3 (N)
1949-50 4-1 1949-08-27 1-1 1949-12-24 Div 3 (N)
1950-51 2-1 1950-09-30 0-2 1950-02-17 Div 3 (N)
1951-52 1-2 1952-01-12 0-0 1952-02-02 Div 3 (N)
1952-53 2-1 1952-10-18 0-1 1953-03-07 Div 3 (N)
1953-54 2-1 1954-01-16 0-5 1953-09-05 Div 3 (N)
1954-55 1-1 1955-02-26 2-1 1954-10-09 Div 3 (N)
1955-56 0-1 1955-12-03 2-5 1956-04-12 Div 3 (N)
1956-57 5-1 1956-08-25 1-6 1956-12-22 Div 3 (N)
1957-58 2-0 1957-09-02 4-3 1957-08-27 Div 3 (N)
1960-61 1-3 1960-09-19 1-3 1960-09-27 Div 4 (old)
1961-62 5-2 1962-03-17 0-1 1961-10-28 Div 4 (old)
1964-65 2-0 1965-04-19 0-3 1965-04-20 Div 3 (old)
1978-79 1-0 1978-09-30 0-1 1979-02-10 Div 3 (old)
1979-80 2-1 1979-11-06 1-1 1979-10-23 Div 3 (old)
1986-87 2-0 1987-02-21 2-1 1986-09-27 Div 3 (old)
1991-92 2-1 1992-04-11 2-1 1991-09-17 Div 4 (old)
1993-94 0-1 1994-01-15 1-1 1993-10-16 Div 3
1994-95 1-2 1995-04-01 1-2 1994-09-13 Div 3
1996-97 0-0 1997-04-11 1-1 1996-10-05 Div 3
1998-99 1-1 1998-09-12 0-0 1999-02-20 Div 3
1999-00 1-1 1999-08-28 2-0 2000-01-29 Div 3
2000-01 1-1 2000-12-22 1-2 2001-01-27 Div 3
2001-02 2-0 2002-04-20 1-0 2001-11-10 Div 3
2003-04 2-3 2004-04-24 2-0 2003-11-15 Div 3
2005-06 1-1 2006-04-22 0-1 2005-10-15 League Two
2014-15 3-2 2014-09-20 1-2 2015-01-31 League Two
2015-16 1-1 2015-08-08 2-1 2016-04-09 League Two
2016-17 (at Carlisle) 2-5 2016-11-26 League Two

A stern test is on the cards. Come on Mansfield!
Last edited by Sweden Stag on Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:22 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Stagsnet statistical preview Carlisle at home

Postby ParisStag » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:34 am

Thanks! Great to read as always.
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Re: Stagsnet statistical preview Carlisle at home

Postby The One » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:02 am

Thanks. 11th paragraph should that not read 11 years later instead of 11 days ?
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Re: Stagsnet statistical preview Carlisle at home

Postby part time pete » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:17 am

Wyke was sold to Bradford City and not Wigan
Can't see us scoring enough goals. - 23rd July
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Re: Stagsnet statistical preview Carlisle at home

Postby Sweden Stag » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:22 am

The One wrote:Thanks. 11th paragraph should that not read 11 years later instead of 11 days ?


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Re: Stagsnet statistical preview Carlisle at home

Postby Sweden Stag » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:22 am

part time pete wrote:Wyke was sold to Bradford City and not Wigan


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