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Re: Green

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:21 pm

Matt Green looked like he had the world on his shoulders on Tuesday night as he was the last player to leave the pitch. He did a great job for the team today in left midfield and it was fantastic to see him score the crucial first goal. Let's hope he now kicks on. A confident Matt Green is a very dangerous player.
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Re: Green

Postby 1970Stag » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:27 pm

He covered an awful amount of ground today, really put a shift in!
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Re: Green

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:53 pm

1970Stag wrote:He covered an awful amount of ground today, really put a shift in!

All the outfield players did.
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Re: Green

Postby Spiritater » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:49 am

Hmmm could well have found a new position for the great man. Worked well out wide and switched with McD at times and had an end product, take note CJ.
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Re: Green

Postby Kenwood » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:12 am

Hopefully now he has scored he will get back some confidence and will play down the middle either starting or from the bench. He is not a wide player.. certainly not left sided.

I thought for large parts of the game especially first half our midfield look disjointed and not really sure of there jobs..Whitman & Byrom hardly had a kick first half, having said that we did tend to go long a lot.

I can't remember anything Green contributed until his goal which he took very well.

I still think a fully confident Matt Green is our best option for a striker who will score enough goals in the remaining games to push us into the Play Offs
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Re: Green

Postby Amberheart » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:44 am

Good old Greeny pleased for the lad !!
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Re: Green

Postby yorkshire stag » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:47 am

Greeny needed that goal, now push on Matt lad
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Re: Green

Postby DoomMerchant » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:49 am

There's not been a problem with his all round game all season. Only his finishing is what has let him down. He had a good game and it was an excellent header.
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Re: Green

Postby Vice President » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:58 am

Well done Matt! I never lost faith in him.
Many had written him off, but I am convinced he will score goals consistently - whichever club he is at.
I hope he can turn things around and goes on to break the MTFC scoring record.
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Re: Green

Postby ParisStag » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:43 am

Vice President wrote:Well done Matt! I never lost faith in him.
Many had written him off, but I am convinced he will score goals consistently - whichever club he is at.
I hope he can turn things around and goes on to break the MTFC scoring record.


How many goals does he have now? 85-90? A good haul next season should see him break it.
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Re: Green

Postby Bradders » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:50 am

At last it's been recognised that he needs to play more deep, i.e. as an attacking midfielder rather than a striker. I got shot down for suggesting this ages ago.
The problem when he's acting as our main striker is that he gets too tense when given a good opportunity, and that leads to weak shots and headers.

Coming from further back, without the "designated striker" millstone round his neck, he can keep more relaxed and get his timing right. If he doesn't actually get in a goalscoring position all match; that's fine, as his skill and work rate means he'll have made a good contribution anyway.
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Re: Green

Postby The One » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:52 am

ParisStag wrote:
Vice President wrote:Well done Matt! I never lost faith in him.
Many had written him off, but I am convinced he will score goals consistently - whichever club he is at.
I hope he can turn things around and goes on to break the MTFC scoring record.


How many goals does he have now? 85-90? A good haul next season should see him break it.


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Re: Green

Postby Martin Shaw » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:05 pm

ParisStag wrote:
Vice President wrote:Well done Matt! I never lost faith in him.
Many had written him off, but I am convinced he will score goals consistently - whichever club he is at.
I hope he can turn things around and goes on to break the MTFC scoring record.


How many goals does he have now? 85-90? A good haul next season should see him break it.

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Re: Green

Postby ParisStag » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:21 pm

So yesterday's goal puts him ahead of the great Ted Harston.
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Re: Green

Postby Vice President » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:13 pm

It is fascinating looking at the records. My inititial thoughts are:-

- I wonder what football was like in the 1930's when Harry Johnson scored all those goals? How would that compare with today?
- Steve Wilkinson scored more than I thought.
- Dave Cauldwell scored more than I realised.
- Kevin Bird & Peter Morris scored a lot of goals from defence/midfield repectively.

...... Matt Green will probably need to play here for the next 2 seasons to break the all time record. Can you see that happening?
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Re: Green

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:19 pm

Vice President wrote:It is fascinating looking at the records. My inititial thoughts are:-

- I wonder what football was like in the 1930's when Harry Johnson scored all those goals? How would that compare with today?
- Steve Wilkinson scored more than I thought.
- Dave Cauldwell scored more than I realised.
- Kevin Bird & Peter Morris scored a lot of goals from defence/midfield repectively.

...... Matt Green will probably need to play here for the next 2 seasons to break the all time record. Can you see that happening?


"Back in the day" they used play with:

Goalkeeper
Left back Right back
Left half Centre Half Right half
Left Winger Inside Left Centre forward Inside right Right winger

Maybe this could a model for the future? (I'd allow ONE sub)



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Re: Green

Postby Martin Shaw » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:20 pm

if Dave Caldwell scored more than you thought VP, then you need reminding of them. I described them all here!
http://stagsnet.net/vintage/reports/dav ... rofile.htm
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Re: Green

Postby kevin kents tasce » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:17 pm

Some people getting a bit carried away now.

He scored a well taken goal and ran around like a headless chicken for a bit.

His overall play wasn't great and up until he scored he was pretty much the worst player on the pitch. Even after the goal he didn't do a deal.

I hope he goes onto score the goals to send us up - but i doubt he will. His all round play has not been good enough for the last two seasons.
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Re: Green

Postby Vice President » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:26 pm

Martin Shaw wrote:if Dave Caldwell scored more than you thought VP, then you need reminding of them. I described them all here!
http://stagsnet.net/vintage/reports/dav ... rofile.htm


Yes - thanks Martin - an excellent write up. Dave Caldwell was my favorite player at the time - a real 'Roy of the Rovers' type that we have never seen since. He exasperated his manager & his fellow players - but he had a great talent.
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Re: Green

Postby Amber Andy » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:27 pm

kevin kents tasce wrote:Some people getting a bit carried away now.

He scored a well taken goal and ran around like a headless chicken for a bit.

His overall play wasn't great and up until he scored he was pretty much the worst player on the pitch. Even after the goal he didn't do a deal.

I hope he goes onto score the goals to send us up - but i doubt he will. His all round play has not been good enough for the last two seasons.

He was playing an unusual role so he was bound to be a bit out of place, but describing him as a "headless chicken " is unfair. True he wasn't the best player on the pitch but was he really the worst? The main thing for me was how he took his goal. It was a well taken header.
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Re: Green

Postby Vice President » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:33 pm

KTT has it in for Green.
If he did run around like a 'headless chicken', whilst playing out of position - he still scored an important goal.
Come on KTT .... give him an ounce of credit when he scores, at least.
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Re: Green

Postby cassellswasmagic » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:49 pm

Still think he should be playing up top with Shaq on that wing. Rose RW - Green CF - Shaq LW is my preference at home, with CJ coming on. I think Macdonald will be great once fully fit, he looks a good player.
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Re: Green

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:49 pm

Vice President wrote:KTT has it in for Green.
If he did run around like a 'headless chicken', whilst playing out of position - he still scored an important goal.
Come on KTT .... give him an ounce of credit when he scores, at least.


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Re: Green

Postby DoomMerchant » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:50 pm

kevin kents tasce wrote:Some people getting a bit carried away now.

He scored a well taken goal and ran around like a headless chicken for a bit.

His overall play wasn't great and up until he scored he was pretty much the worst player on the pitch. Even after the goal he didn't do a deal.

I hope he goes onto score the goals to send us up - but i doubt he will. His all round play has not been good enough for the last two seasons.


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Re: Green

Postby kevin kents tasce » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:02 pm

Not at all dismissive or biased. Which Stags player played worse?

He took the goal really well - probably the best header I have ever seen him do. I can only guess this has been worked at and full credit to him for improving.

He also had a very public telling off from the manager for switching off and not being in position and made a few very poor passes - such as the one where he tried to play it down the line but it ended up in the stand. Maybe headless chicken was harsh - but it was his poor positional play i was getting at, i think he lacks football intelligence.

Do I have it in for him? No, but i don't think he's good enough.

Did i jump up and cheer his as loud as anyone one else when he scored? Of course I did.

I actually think he could be pretty effective as an inside right in a front 3. He is physically very difficult to deal with, he needs to improve his quality with the ball though before I would consider him an automatic starter - something he shares with CJ.
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