bellwhiff wrote:Where is that cocky waster Chambta? Gives it the big one but slinks off when it all goes belly up.
Like those arsestains from County who ran away.
dublin_stag wrote:Great result for CFC tonight, Coventry losing means they might be able to cling onto 23rd place at this rate
Warsop Stag wrote:Those of us who lived through the Haslam era will get shivers reading Carson's statement.
On the plus side, they're proper fecked.
Random Hero wrote:stagmanrob wrote:Ashley Carson has published the following open message to fans to provide an update:
I had a meeting yesterday with Dave Allen, which was also attended by Gary Caldwell. This was Dave’s first meeting with Gary and he questioned him on players and formations etc.
Dave pulled no punches and asked Gary on his thoughts for the rest of the season and which players he would like to retain.
Gary's comments after Saturday’s game were also discussed and I echoed the fans’ views that it was wrong to criticise them. With the benefit of hindsight, Gary accepts that the point he was making could have been worded better. He pointed out that there is currently a major negative feeling at the club, both on and off the pitch. His assessment of the situation is not wrong.
The players are also aware of this negativity and Gary feels that the fans working with him will help improve the situation. He is aware on a match day of all the comments shouted from behind the dug out and they are mostly negative. He was really appealing to you, the fans, to please give everyone a chance and get behind the team. I can assure you that it was never his intention to criticise you.
I spoke to Dave after the meeting and he was very impressed with Gary and also his thoughts and plans for both the remainder of this season and next. Gary has identified some areas behind the scenes where we are lacking - including recruitment - and he wants to rectify this.
Dave outlined the budget for next season for players. Gary is happy with this and is already looking towards next season, whilst being mindful of the wish to maintain our status in League One.
In the past, Dave has put a lot of money into the club in order to sustain and maintain costs. That will no longer be the case in the future, so it therefore has to be a cash neutral budget for the business until such time that a new owner is in place.
Dave and I discussed overheads and all operating costs are currently being looked at. I can tell you that various cost-cutting measures will be introduced at the end of the season to make substantial savings. We must always be mindful that the club has substantial commitments with the stadium mortgage plus loan repayments to ex-directors that totals over £500,000 per annum. This has all got to be factored in to next season's commitments.
Dave has now agreed to meet Gary and I on a monthly basis to discuss the playing side of the club. Whilst Dave does not currently attend matches, I can assure you he is taking a very close eye on the running of the club, as he always has done. Only this week he has covered the shortfall in the running costs of the club.
I will remain in control of the running of the club for the foreseeable future and will keep you informed of developments. I really want to work with you and certainly not against you.
Ashley Carson
Director & Company Secretary
Wow. That was a very interesting read.
Make absolutely no bones about it - Chesterfield are in a LOT of trouble and this statement is testament to that.
It's full of contradictions, and really points to the fact that, long term, they are very much planning for League Two (and possibly lower than that)
£500,000 owed per annum to former directors - Jesus. That was close to Accrington Stanley's entire wage budget last season, it's a huge chunk of revenue down the spout before their season has even begun and is completely unsustainable with the higher TV revenues of League One, let alone League Two/Conference.
Dave Allen is currently plugging some major holes... he won't continue to do so for too much longer. All this talk of being 'budget neutral' is pie in the sky, it will be interesting to see how they plan to achieve that whilst remaining competitive on the pitch, which I truly don't believe is possible. Right now, they are haemorrhaging money from every orifice.
One can only assume that they intend to cut some of their costs by drastically reducing the wage bill. Their squad isn't exactly filled with superstars as it is lets be frank here, but this would mean shipping pretty much the whole lot and recruiting youth/Conference players. It will also have a knock on effect on staff.
Allen is demanding a (ridiculous) £15 million for a club that is, lets be honest, in one of the least desirable positions in one of the least desirable towns in the whole of the UK. Every single day he is still at their club is a day closer to their doom.
They owe millions (Some suggest £10 million) to HMRC amongst others. Allen has already said he will not pay... who is going to take on the club with these substantial debts? Even if Allen's £15 million asking price includes these, no one in their right mind is going to take them on in their current position, on and off the field.
I'd hate to see any club (including 'them') go under, but they are in deep doo doo.
die hirsche wrote:Random Hero wrote:stagmanrob wrote:Ashley Carson has published the following open message to fans to provide an update:
I had a meeting yesterday with Dave Allen, which was also attended by Gary Caldwell. This was Dave’s first meeting with Gary and he questioned him on players and formations etc.
Dave pulled no punches and asked Gary on his thoughts for the rest of the season and which players he would like to retain.
Gary's comments after Saturday’s game were also discussed and I echoed the fans’ views that it was wrong to criticise them. With the benefit of hindsight, Gary accepts that the point he was making could have been worded better. He pointed out that there is currently a major negative feeling at the club, both on and off the pitch. His assessment of the situation is not wrong.
The players are also aware of this negativity and Gary feels that the fans working with him will help improve the situation. He is aware on a match day of all the comments shouted from behind the dug out and they are mostly negative. He was really appealing to you, the fans, to please give everyone a chance and get behind the team. I can assure you that it was never his intention to criticise you.
I spoke to Dave after the meeting and he was very impressed with Gary and also his thoughts and plans for both the remainder of this season and next. Gary has identified some areas behind the scenes where we are lacking - including recruitment - and he wants to rectify this.
Dave outlined the budget for next season for players. Gary is happy with this and is already looking towards next season, whilst being mindful of the wish to maintain our status in League One.
In the past, Dave has put a lot of money into the club in order to sustain and maintain costs. That will no longer be the case in the future, so it therefore has to be a cash neutral budget for the business until such time that a new owner is in place.
Dave and I discussed overheads and all operating costs are currently being looked at. I can tell you that various cost-cutting measures will be introduced at the end of the season to make substantial savings. We must always be mindful that the club has substantial commitments with the stadium mortgage plus loan repayments to ex-directors that totals over £500,000 per annum. This has all got to be factored in to next season's commitments.
Dave has now agreed to meet Gary and I on a monthly basis to discuss the playing side of the club. Whilst Dave does not currently attend matches, I can assure you he is taking a very close eye on the running of the club, as he always has done. Only this week he has covered the shortfall in the running costs of the club.
I will remain in control of the running of the club for the foreseeable future and will keep you informed of developments. I really want to work with you and certainly not against you.
Ashley Carson
Director & Company Secretary
Wow. That was a very interesting read.
Make absolutely no bones about it - Chesterfield are in a LOT of trouble and this statement is testament to that.
It's full of contradictions, and really points to the fact that, long term, they are very much planning for League Two (and possibly lower than that)
£500,000 owed per annum to former directors - Jesus. That was close to Accrington Stanley's entire wage budget last season, it's a huge chunk of revenue down the spout before their season has even begun and is completely unsustainable with the higher TV revenues of League One, let alone League Two/Conference.
Dave Allen is currently plugging some major holes... he won't continue to do so for too much longer. All this talk of being 'budget neutral' is pie in the sky, it will be interesting to see how they plan to achieve that whilst remaining competitive on the pitch, which I truly don't believe is possible. Right now, they are haemorrhaging money from every orifice.
One can only assume that they intend to cut some of their costs by drastically reducing the wage bill. Their squad isn't exactly filled with superstars as it is lets be frank here, but this would mean shipping pretty much the whole lot and recruiting youth/Conference players. It will also have a knock on effect on staff.
Allen is demanding a (ridiculous) £15 million for a club that is, lets be honest, in one of the least desirable positions in one of the least desirable towns in the whole of the UK. Every single day he is still at their club is a day closer to their doom.
They owe millions (Some suggest £10 million) to HMRC amongst others. Allen has already said he will not pay... who is going to take on the club with these substantial debts? Even if Allen's £15 million asking price includes these, no one in their right mind is going to take them on in their current position, on and off the field.
I'd hate to see any club (including 'them') go under, but they are in deep doo doo.
You have missed the point that they owe all of their debt to their 'chairman' Dave Allen, who very kindly keeps 'lending' them enough to keep afloat.
It's gone beyond the taking the piss out of them stage for me. This is another case of some complete chunt of a bloke destroying another lower league football club.
Spiritater wrote:Be nice if a band of Stags fans could be present in the stadium on the day relegation is confirmed (if it's at home), and bellow out at the top of their voices,
"WOKE UP THIS MORNING FEELING FINE.....'
Tre Cool wrote:Just read that the CEO Chris Turner has been sacked.
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